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1541  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos are Japanese. on: October 04, 2019, 02:16:58 PM
Je me douche.
Wouldn't this be better for the Bitcoin Discussion section if it's something about a satoshi speculation? This is not about the forum, at least not directly.
1542  Other / Meta / Re: Sig campaign mangers - now help advertising for scammers - TO PROTECT THE BOARD. on: October 03, 2019, 02:34:18 PM
I would much rather have theymos ban all signatures than have signature campaigns continue.
I would much rather have theymos ban YoBit signatures than have the campaign continue.
I would much rather have yahoo manage YoBit than have the campaign managed by someone who will allow spam to proliferate.
I would much rather allow spam to proliferate than... no, I wouldn't have spam proliferate.
The main problem I have right now is the number of "why is yahoo managing the campaign" threads. It's starting to border on spam, now.
Wrong

There can be NO promoting of scams or scammers.

There is ONLY one way to operate as I have just said. You need to decide if something meets the transparent clear threshold of scamming or scammer, then red trust ANYONE that promotes it or advertises it. Those can be removed once they understand or come to learn the error of their ways. Sig bans are suitable for those that wish to continue advertising after they have been told.
I don't like YoBit and I don't like this campaign. In fact, I detest it. The 'solution' of using a campaign manager is merely a fragment of what I would have wanted - the eradication of the campaign.

There is a question to be asked, though... Is CryptoTalk a scam?

Once you have your answer, consider this: this may be a proxy for YoBit to shill their site in the future, that is, a way of bypassing the previous signature ban on the YoBit site directly.

Then finally: if you were to red tag YoBit participants, should you also tag CryptoTalk participants based on this speculation?
1543  Economy / Reputation / Re: Livecoin is a shady exchange, Yobit is not on: October 03, 2019, 04:58:24 AM
Given that both LiveCoin and YoBit have active flags with a lot of support, I am curious why LiveCoin advertisers were added to a blacklist, while YoBit advertisers are not.
It would be a good incentive to not participate in the campaign, though considering the quality of the participants, it's unlikely that they (or rather, most of them) would be seriously considered by yahoo in one of his other campaigns in the first place.
1544  Other / Meta / Re: Sig campaign mangers - now help advertising for scammers - TO PROTECT THE BOARD. on: October 03, 2019, 04:06:49 AM
I would much rather have theymos ban all signatures than have signature campaigns continue.
I would much rather have theymos ban YoBit signatures than have the campaign continue.
I would much rather have yahoo manage YoBit than have the campaign managed by someone who will allow spam to proliferate.
I would much rather allow spam to proliferate than... no, I wouldn't have spam proliferate.
The main problem I have right now is the number of "why is yahoo managing the campaign" threads. It's starting to border on spam, now.
1545  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What to do about people who believe that stealing is ok on: October 03, 2019, 03:33:26 AM
Imagine the following for simplicity
1.there are 10 people in the world
2.only enough resources for 10 loaves of bread or less per week.
3. everyone needs a loaf per week to survive

Here is how it would work by my moral code.

-anyone who takes 2 or more loaves in one week is stealing no matter how they acquired the bread.  
-taking 4 or less loaves of bread from someone who has made 5 loaves is not stealing unless you keep 2 or more for yourself.  
-if someone gives you 2 loaves of bread and you keep both, you also stole one loaf of bread.  

Of course its never that simple because our world has so many more variables and contexts at play.  Its hard to determine what is stealing and what even is property.
Let's restructure this to just one week/round? It seems like you could simplify it much more.

Definition: the act of stealing is dictated thusly:

Let a set S contain n components p1, p2, ..., pn and a limited amount of resource x∈ℝ.
yi∈ℝ := the amount of resource x that pi requires for the round.
qi∈ℝ := the amount of resource x that pi takes for the round.

q1 + q2 + ... + qn ≤ x

If qi > yi then pi is stealing
Consider this case, then.

S = {p1, p2, p3}
x = 6
y1 = 1
y2 = 2
y3 = 4
It really is a convoluted issue.
1546  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What to do about people who believe that stealing is ok on: October 03, 2019, 01:31:11 AM
This blurs the lines
At the same time, having vague definitions of stealing, like "taking a fair/survival portion of something that is not rightfully owned is not stealing" also blurs the lines between what is stealing and what is not.

By defining it in such a manner, you create a top-down definition to which you have to now define what a "fair/survival portion" of something is.

Is taking a piece of bread when you're starving stealing?
How about taking some gourmet dishes from a restaurant?
What if that was the closest thing around?
What if there was nothing else around?
What if you had to choose between taking the gourmet dish, and putting your hand on the stove for 10 seconds?

If taking one piece of bread is not stealing, is taking two pieces of bread stealing?
How about three?
Four?
Onwards?



See how your answers change as these questions develop and try to develop some other scenarios. This tests the rigor of your definition and in turn tests the rationale thereof.
1547  Other / Meta / Re: Please don't use bold text in your posts. on: October 02, 2019, 06:22:14 PM
Bold text should be used sparingly and colored text should be seldom used. The combination thereof, then, should only be used in extremely rare situations.

Especially blue. God, what an ugly color.


When bold text is used to highlight passages or to emphasize specific terms then it's much more justified.
1548  Economy / Reputation / Re: Livecoin is a shady exchange, Yobit is not on: October 01, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Would you rather have no campaign manager handling YoBit, or perhaps one of YoBit's own staff managing the campaign?
Isn't Livecoin promoting themselves? If Yahoo can blacklist Livecoin promoters, why not Yobit? Yahoo clearly said that he will blacklist any user who promote Livecoin. I was pointing that, not managing by Yahoo or a Yobit staff. If spam would generate, then great LORD theymos could do something to keep his forum clean like he did before.
The idea that we have to rely on theymos for everything—especially when a sensible solution to control spam exists—is absolutely ridiculous.

And if I were to choose between yahoo vs. someone who doesn't care about the post quality, well... the answer should be obvious.
If yahoo does start blacklisting CryptoTalk participants from his other campaigns, that would add some incentive to stay clean, but the reality is that most of the people who are going to join the campaign would never have a chance of joining his other campaigns.

Scrape the bottom of the barrel, dig a little further, then tunnel down a couple miles, and that's where you'll find YoBit quality.
1549  Economy / Reputation / Re: Livecoin is a shady exchange, Yobit is not on: October 01, 2019, 05:53:37 PM
Would you rather have no campaign manager handling YoBit, or perhaps one of YoBit's own staff managing the campaign?

This matter has been discussed time and time again and we have said the same things.

This thread doesn't mean anything to you, then? List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign
1550  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [48 Hour Auction] Cryptolator 2014 + Bitcoin Penny on: October 01, 2019, 04:37:58 AM
Can I purchase items here using credit cards.
Buy Bitcoin instead, then you can use that to pay for the items.

1) Most people are not standardized merchants and do not have access to credit card payment receipts
2) Credit cards allow for charge-backs.
3) You can buy Bitcoin with credit cards in many ways, and considering this is Bitcointalk, it would be well-advised to use the currency that the forum centers around.
1551  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What to do about people who believe that stealing is ok on: October 01, 2019, 03:01:43 AM
In some religions, there is the religious concept of dharma and (correct me if I'm wrong) in some Indian creeds you have gods are both benevolent and those that succumb to temptation... that is, disorder, evil.

The justification, then, for one's immoral actions comes from an ideological standpoint where even the gods fall to temptation and hence humans, who must evidently have a weaker will, should not have qualms with sinful acts - or rather, should not have significant regret thereof.
There is also a heavy scam culture in China, wherein the thought process drifts towards, "if you get scammed, you deserve it," creating a market surrounding swindles and cons. The skepticism even goes back several generations, where you have the government requesting family members to snitch on one another if they were showing signs of dissent.
1552  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [48 Hour Auction] Cryptolator 2014 + Bitcoin Penny on: October 01, 2019, 12:50:43 AM
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1553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Q4 -Quarter 4 speculation thread, where will 2019 end, join the LIST on: September 30, 2019, 11:42:33 PM
Halving a Christmas
Gift presents with Bitcoin sales
We'll see twelve point five.

(12500)
1554  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Bitcoinpenny Precious Metal Pennies 2018 on: September 30, 2019, 07:27:43 PM
2 @ 0.036
1555  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Bitcoinpenny Precious Metal Pennies 2018 on: September 30, 2019, 07:22:18 PM
1 @ 0.055
2 @ 0.032
1556  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Bitcoinpenny Precious Metal Pennies 2018 on: September 30, 2019, 07:13:32 PM
1 @ 0.047
1557  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Bitcoinpenny Precious Metal Pennies 2018 on: September 30, 2019, 07:03:44 PM
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1558  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Bitcoinpenny Precious Metal Pennies 2018 on: September 30, 2019, 06:53:51 PM
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1559  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Bitcoinpenny Precious Metal Pennies 2018 on: September 30, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
1 @ 0.045
2 @ 0.024
1560  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Bitcoinpenny Precious Metal Pennies 2018 on: September 30, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
1 @ 0.042
2 @ 0.022
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