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1841  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Try A Million - Miners - Block Erupter Sales - UK & Worldwide With Shipping Inc! on: November 06, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
At current difficulty, each Block Erupter takes about 4.3 years to make BTC1 - thats ignoring power use.
1842  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How long will my BFL 30 be stuck in UK customs? on: November 06, 2013, 06:20:02 PM
Have you paid the import tax?  It'll sit forever until you do. Smiley
1843  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 3.5.0: modular ASIC/FPGA, GBT, Strtm, RPC, Lnx/OpnWrt/PPA/W64, KnC/HBR on: November 06, 2013, 03:58:24 PM
I rolled back to 3.4.0 on OpenWRT and it's all working again, exact same command used between the two.  

3.5.0's Erupter support is confirmed broken.
1844  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [EU/UK GROUP BUY] Blue Fury USB miner 2.2 - 2.7 GH/s on: November 06, 2013, 03:29:13 PM
I usually recommend BFGMiner.  Just avoid the newest 3.5.0 for now - it seems to be having USB driver issues.  3.4.0 is fine, though.
1845  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Multiple miners on one host, on different circuits, ground loop? on: November 06, 2013, 03:27:55 PM
All your grounds in your house should be tied together.  If you're getting ground loops, then you need an electrician.
1846  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: CARD WITH ARTIFACTS worth anything? on: November 06, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
Probably will be OK, depends on what part of the chip is fried.  I had an old 5870 that wouldn't even display a picture, it just displayed random gibberish.  It mined fine.
1847  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [28 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 06, 2013, 03:23:20 PM
I'm about to install the bitcoin-qt client on the computer i'm running my miner through, I guess it takes a few days now... will it impair the efficiency of my asic machine?
I want to join p2pool but I have one computer I work on, and one that does the mining (which I had to replace recently - thus - no client  Cry ).  



If your machine is reasonably fast, it can run P2Pool, your miners, the lot.  Anything with an i3 or better is fine.

The main restriction with running your own node is bandwidth.  The average DSL connection can't provide what p2pool and bitcoin need to keep your stale rate low.

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No, it isn't.  p2pool only needs a few tens of kilobytes per second.  You could do that on 512k DSL no problems.  It's getblocktemplate latency that's the issue, which is purely bitcoind hogging CPU. 

But, hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.
1848  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Defending against Selfish pools with BFGMiner and GBT on: November 06, 2013, 03:12:26 PM

the problem is not on p2pool's end but on the way asicminer blades (and more in general slush's stratum-proxy) and KnC units before 0.9.6 (or .7) firmware behave when a new block comes in.


Ah, another armchair miner.   Roll Eyes 

So it's all slush's stratum proxy's fault?  So explain, Brianiac, how p2pool STILL doesn't work when you run the ASICMiner Blade on p2pool's getwork interface.  Or how it still doesn't work when using BFGMiner's getwork proxy?   Or how the Blades work on every other pool without issue?   No?  No answer?  Thought not.
1849  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Defending against Selfish pools with BFGMiner and GBT on: November 06, 2013, 01:16:19 PM

P2pool is a brilliant idea that works badly I'm afraid. Having said that, I'd use it tomorrow if it was fixed/updated/developed a bit quicker, simply because of it's decentralised nature as you mentioned.


This a hundred times.  Thread over.
1850  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: ASIC miners on-hand for Sale Popping Up Everywhere on: November 06, 2013, 11:43:35 AM

If the machines are making that much bitcoins, why are they selling them so fast?  I don't think they made their ROI in just a few days.



They aren't making anything by mining - it's advertising speak.

My 2 ASICMiner Blades are making 1BTC every 40 days, rough estimate, at 511Mil difficulty.  That's at ~12GH each.  That means the 10x Block Erupters are making 1BTC every 160 days.  Each single one takes 1600 days, which is 4.38 years, assuming difficulty stays at 511M.  Which it won't.

Totally pointless.

The ONLY way to make money from Block Erupters is by selling them on eBay or Amazon to suckers.  Period.
1851  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Erm, about this diff thing..... on: November 06, 2013, 11:37:09 AM
Hopefully a lot of folks will just give up, which will keep diff steady, or lower it.

I'm back to 1BTC a month again, as I was with my GPUs about 6 months ago.   Roll Eyes
1852  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: ASIC BLADE Problem on: November 06, 2013, 11:31:59 AM

Blades are inefficient and restart very frequently when mining against a remote getwork server.


Can't say I've seen that myself.

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Pointing to the eligius getwork server is a useless exercise, but if you are into wasting time I suppose that's your choice... 

It's not.  As I said, getting the guy pointing to the correct server is only the first step of getting him mining efficiently. 

What he's trying to do is drive a car on a lake.  My suggestion is getting him off water and on to dry land.  THEN we worry about getting him on the road and going quickly.

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Did you coin the term "armchair miner"?

Seems I did.   Tongue
1853  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [28 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 06, 2013, 11:17:01 AM
I'm about to install the bitcoin-qt client on the computer i'm running my miner through, I guess it takes a few days now... will it impair the efficiency of my asic machine?
I want to join p2pool but I have one computer I work on, and one that does the mining (which I had to replace recently - thus - no client  Cry ).  



If your machine is reasonably fast, it can run P2Pool, your miners, the lot.  Anything with an i3 or better is fine.
1854  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Defending against Selfish pools with BFGMiner and GBT on: November 06, 2013, 11:09:14 AM
most modern hardware does not work well with it - that's why people don't use it
Most modern hardware works absolutely fine with it, your data is outdated.

Well, no.  He's right, p2pool doesn't work on ASICMiner Blades, on the KnC machines...

p2pool also doesn't work for shit unless you're running it on a beast of a machine.  I'm talking fast i3 at the bare minimum.  I ran a p2pool node for a long time, and I just couldn't be bothered with it.  I had to run a dedicated machine using ~80W to host the node.  I was only putting 30GH though it, if I were running decent hashrates I don't know what sort of machine I'd have to run.  I tried it on lower powered machines, and the latencies were totally off the charts.  The 3.3GHz i3 with SSD drive was the only machine that would run it properly.

I loved the idea of p2pool, it's just a shame it hasn't kept up with the hardware people are using.  That's why p2pool is only running around 30-40TH.  If it worked better, more people would use it.  Out of all the people mining, how come there's only about 40 nodes that have any decent hashrate going though them?  Heck, the top hashing node is only 4TH...that's low.

You're high if you think p2pool is a good for option for those mining with ASICs. 
1855  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 3.5.0: modular ASIC/FPGA, GBT, Strtm, RPC, Lnx/OpnWrt/PPA/W64, KnC/HBR on: November 06, 2013, 09:18:33 AM
Block Erupters aren't working on 3.5.0 on OpenWRT either.  Tried all the various options, but they're not being picked up.  Same command as always used (screen -dmS bfg bfgminer -S all --http-port 8330).  Tried the --scan-serial options as well.

Unfortunately I'm on an SSH session via LogMeIn to my home PC from work, so I can't see what's physically happening, nor can I cold reboot.   Roll Eyes
1856  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [500Th] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 # on: November 06, 2013, 08:27:36 AM
Seeing the same as someone above.  Until the 4th Nov my hashrate graph was smooth, between 25GH and 30GH.  Never above, never below.  The past few days it's fluctuating between 20GH and 40GH.  Same hashrate (28GH) at this end.
1857  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTCGUILD just mined 6 contiguous blocks - Why do you join them? on: November 05, 2013, 08:02:40 PM
I just don't understand why anyone would join a guild that's so big.

Less variance. 

Thread over.
1858  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 510.93 Million in difficulty just now!!! on: November 05, 2013, 07:58:14 PM
It's f**king depressing.  Cry
1859  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: ASIC BLADE Problem on: November 05, 2013, 03:55:59 PM
Hello
 What im doing wrong here . Why is the efficiency so low ?  

Current Server: gbt.mining.eligius.st:9337


GBT is wrong.  You want Getwork. There's a big difference.

The Blades only support getwork.

You want getwork.mining.eligius.st:8337


No, you want a stratum proxy. I'm surprised anyone is even running an outdated getwork pool any more, and I doubt it will even be around much longer.

Armchair miners... lol

Well, lets get him working on the correct server to start off with.  GBT is totally wrong.  THEN we get him running on a stratum proxy.

I've got my Blades pointed to a local proxy as the primary server, and backup is set to the getwork server on Eligius - that means when/if the machine running the proxy is rebooting/crashed, the Blades can mine on their own as long as the internet is still working.
1860  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: block erupter seems to work, but doesn't submit shares on: November 05, 2013, 03:53:35 PM
What difficulty is your pool set to?

You want to be as close to 1 as possible for a small number of BEs.  Bigger difficulty shares will take forever on a few BEs, and probably lead to stales.
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