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1841  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: April 12, 2015, 01:07:28 AM
Really difficult to tell, maybe in 2-3 years. The point is bitcoin is still very small and unknown for the average Joe. Let bitcoin grow and the mass adaption will come and the demand will rise.

Its not that i dont care about the mindless sheeple average joe, they probably buy greek bonds anyway lol. It's about the wallstreet getting involved.

The bitcoin yearly inflation is 10% which is too big for the big money to risk itself, it needs 4-5 more years until the yearly inflation gets below 3-4%.

These fucking miners are too greedy and inflate bitcoin too fast, this is bad for it's economic growth.
1842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think 1.00 BTC will worth more than $10,000.00 USD at any time in 2015? on: April 12, 2015, 01:04:42 AM
we must be happy if we see $400 this year it seems. i think it will go down further from current price. bottom might be $200 or maybe just under that.  let's first reach $1000 again before talking about $10000
You can never leave out of the equation insane rallies with bitcoin. It can happen at any given time. Look how much it took for the price to go from 400 to 1000, literally days. Every second you aren't on BTC, it's a second you could miss that lunar trip.

Ok but from 400 to 1000 its only doubling. So about 4 billion $ extra.

But for 1 million $ you need like  10^15 $  or more , so very hard.


Plus add the fact that 90% of the money is in the top 1% hands, so if they dont move a muscle, no bitcoin will be financed. We as a community can't even push bitcoin past 1000$.

It will need wallstreet helping hand.

And until their ponzi scheme is good enough, they will play in their own markets, bitcoin still has 10% yearly inflation which is very bad for big money, so we need to wait 3-4 more years until we will find big investors in it!
1843  Other / Archival / Re: Best bitcoin faucets? on: April 12, 2015, 01:00:57 AM
land of bitcoin.com was good, but unfortunately it was not refreshed for a long time
1844  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: April 12, 2015, 01:00:09 AM
Hey look just buy as much as you can. If we bet on bitcoin, and we do, the mere fact that all of us will buy alot of bitcoin, will create the future that we wished for so hard.

It's an auto-fulfilling-prophecy, the mere fact that we buy now all bitcoins that we can, will raise the price, and then we can thank ourselves for our effort!

Auto-fulfilling-prophecy!!!
1845  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you spending your Bitcoin? on: April 12, 2015, 12:58:03 AM
How much BTC do you have now ?  .1
How much did you spent?  .05
How much did you lost or scammed by someone?  .01

I lost these BTC in gambling Site. Now I left the Gambling

Sorry to hear that, you should know that gambling wont make you rich next time. Or maybe you was unlucky...
1846  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: April 12, 2015, 12:53:10 AM
Yea i bought some today, precisely 0.75 bitcoin, if that counts, otherwise none. I guess that counts as earnings too  Grin
1847  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 12, 2015, 12:51:28 AM

Another thing that amazes me:  You hear story after story of "millionaires" (mostly pro athletes) who finance finance finance, and then end up with nothing once the big paycheck stop coming in.  I think one study said 75% of NFL players are broke within 3 years of retirement.  I fully believe this stat when you factor in all the players who only last a year or 2, probably only make the league minimum, and then hae no means to make money after they are done playing.
Some people are just dumb, and clueless when it comes to money. Most people dont know how economy works, nor what economy is.

They dont know how money works, or what money is.

They just think its a thing that gets me goodies, and when the money stops coming they dont know what the fuck happened.

Thos guys mostly have 1 digit IQ so don't bother revealing to them how to responibly handle money. They don't even know what world they live on.
1848  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: easy way that get me bitcoin on: April 12, 2015, 12:48:42 AM
If you think about it there is no easy way to get bitcoin. There is easy way to get a few satoshis, but not a full bitcoin.

To get a full bitcoin you need to work hard, sell some stuff or provide high quality service of some kind, just like earning fiat money.

If you can't do that, then don't expect some1 to accidentally deposit 999999 bitcoin into your wallet, because the probability of that is less than wining a lottery 10 times in a row!
1849  Economy / Economics / Re: Is deflation truly that bad for an economy? on: April 12, 2015, 12:45:03 AM

i mean that Freedom is not freedom of choice and that is not simply a choice variety, people tend to infer that a choice variety gives makes them free, and concluding that free market liberates men, and therefore the opposite must enslave men, so they go on crusading...
oh but marketing failure is invariant on both counts, but the point was that marketing is not about about finding what people want but about telling people what to want, therefore making the illusion of free choice irrelevant.
Marketing essentially neutralizes free choice therefore making it irrelevant and denying that argumentmto be used in the debate.

Still telling them what to want is not equal to forcing them stuff they don't want! It's not the same.

Asking some1, persuading it or telling them is not the same as forcing to them at gunpoint. So free-market is free, or it should be , if there were no interference from the governments.
1850  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is an imaginary concept, but humanity is enslaved by it on: April 11, 2015, 11:44:35 PM
In fact time has almost equal value to everyone. Each person owns about the same amount of time during his entire life. But unfortunately, time can not be transferred



Not really, some people die at 20 some people die at 90. Should we have a "time welfare" where we would take out the "life energy" of 50 year olds who could live till 90, and let them die at 50, and give it to the 20 year old that would die in 20 just to live till 50, is that moral?

Time socialism?

Good lord that "life energy" can't be robbed from you by the governments, otherwise this would be the first thing to legislate.

Unfortunately Money can be robbed from you by the government! So there is a fundamental difference!!!  Wink
1851  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 21 million not never !!! on: April 11, 2015, 11:37:56 PM


i'm not talking about crypto in general, but about bitcoin(the rest are just clone), you can't say for sure that in 10-20-30 years bitcoin will be still alive no matter what

there is a chance even if it remotely(actually it isn't, at this point it's already at 25% dies, 75% survive or worse...)that bitcoin will not survive

and you are wrong about shutting down many of those scam coins, even one miner with a good hash can shut down many of them, because they have so low diff that they can be 51%'d so easily it's not even funny

government would not even bother to shut down those coin

Well that would be just tyrrany. They are already putting their hands on the internet with all this net neutrality bullshit, so their powerhungy grap is now getting crazy.

Besides if people tolerate tyrrany then they deserve it, a government will do whatever they want if nobody will stand up agains them.

So it's up to the people to decide how much is enough. This is more than just bitcoin, this is about freedom in general.
1852  Economy / Digital goods / Re: ■■■■ Free e-book about Storing your Bitcoin Safely! ■■■■ on: April 11, 2015, 11:31:20 PM
Very good ebook brings a comprehensive information and images for people to be guided, I am surprised that you give it for free, thanks for this contribution, I will share with several friends Grin

Thank, education is more important than profit, however you are always welcome to donate!  Smiley
1853  Other / Politics & Society / Justice vs. Freedom --- You can't have both choose one.... on: April 11, 2015, 11:26:43 PM
I started thinking about this fundamental paradox that lies in the depth of human society.

On 1 hand there is the justice advocate people who always blame everyone else, but themselves, for any problem on the world, and they usually have a deep sense of injustice , thinking about starving children and can't tolerate inequality amongst humans, even if, by default God or Nature, depending on your religion, has created us unequal. Well not in the sense that 1 person has more right than other, but in the sense that, we have different skills and different talents, differents strengths and weaknesses, and we can only become better if we cooperate voluntarly and not try to force eachother to equalize ourselves. A world where everyone is 100% equal would be pretty boring isnt it?

On the other hand, there is the freedom loving people who don't really blame anybody for anything, nor they don't care, they do, but their methodology differs from the other people in the sense that they let eachother choose their life freely without restrictions. But of course the drawback of this is that people will remain inequal here, as they should be, but this will upset the other group.

So my view is that you can't have both, because each group fights for their own rights, and they contradict eachother. Now in a democracy obviously the 1st one wins always because they are always in a majority, but that doesnt mean they are the absolute righteous people.

I`m always for freedom, but i understand that this will not have alot of justice. In a free world alot of criminals will get away with their crimes (not to say that will all this law enforcement nowadays they don't?  Grin They still get away with it even now), but my view is that we should not strive out all of our freedom just because 2-3% of us behaves criminally. This 1 for all and all for 1 collectivist mentality is just naive and stupid.

So there is really 2 stand on this:

- Freedom: a perfectly free society, with unjustice but alot of opportunity to overcome the injustices
- Collectivism: a tyrranical society which treats everyone equally, discourages the talented and dismisses and helps the untalented, where everyone is told to do the "common good" (which apparently doesnt exist), and subjugate their individuality for the sake of their community
- Mixed Society: neither Freedom, nor Social Justice is achieved, so basically its worthless and doesnt satisfy eithe group (this is the current society in most countries on earth)

Now it's  worth to point out that "collectivism" is not just leftists (communist, socialist and progressives) but also rightists (nationalists,fascists).
So don't get fooled by the left & right paradigm because it's an illusion, they are all collectivists because they think they have a common good or a society to subjugate themselves to (either the community - proletariat  or the "nation" ) which is the same thing painted differently.

While the free-man is  free from all of these, atleast inside his head, as society still expects from him to subjugate itself. So I see that freedom is much valuable than justice, because freedom enables humans to have more opportunities, than justice can ever compensate for their disabilities!

Let me know your opinion!
1854  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: If I sell my bitcoins do I have to pay vat on them ? on: April 11, 2015, 11:03:14 PM
VAT is usually paid when you buy things isnt it? I mean its an indirect tax and its incorporated into the price...  Tongue
1855  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Paying 5,500 satoshi for a task for 10 seconds on: April 11, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
I like how easy it is to earn 5500 satoshi nowadays. Not many faucets pay that much so this thread is really helpful for newbies to get their hands on some easy bucks!  Wink
1856  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 11, 2015, 10:57:28 PM
Bitcoin's biggest advantage over Gold: Its purely virtual and can thus be sent over the net to anywhere in an instant.

This advantage can easily turn into a devastating disadvantage if something disrupts the net integrity even for a short time span. Just think about the extent of chaos that would be unleashed if two different copies of the blockchain begin competing with each other...

Not much since people only hold their blockchain which they have their money on. Why would i switch to another blockchain if i already got like 100 bitcoin?

If other people who dont hold bitcoins would switch to that, then that blockchain is not bitcoin by definition, its an altcoin.
1857  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 11, 2015, 10:54:24 PM
I get it by selling stuff around or by buying them, there are not many thing you can do besidesthe already established ways to make money online
1858  Economy / Digital goods / Re: ●♦★██████ BITCOIN SOFTWARE SUPERMARKET ██████★♦● on: April 11, 2015, 10:50:50 PM
Ok guys, i`m very kind now, so I lowered all prices by -99%!!!!!!

Now 3 products are 100% free, and the other ones cost only 10.000 satoshi (only to keep statistics of the purchases, otherwise those would be also free so if you can't afford 10.000 satoshi you can PM me and get it for FREE!!!)

So enjoy my kindness!  Grin

=============================

Also updated the Bitcoin Realtime Info software to 1.57:




Changes:
-Added AUD , australian dollar to the prices, so this will be visible too
-Increased font and windows size to make it more visible
-Added yearly inflation , so you can now see how much the bitcoin supply has inflated over the last 365 days
-Changed the average transaction size period from 1 month to 1 day, so you can see more recent transactions better
-Made the chart bigger so it looks more user friendly

Enjoy!  Grin
1859  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: April 11, 2015, 10:27:17 PM
...
and get some satoshis from trading Smiley

To earn a considerable amount of satoshis through trading you need some capital first since revenue per trade is really low. Something most newbies usually don't have.

Depends how you trade and on what timeframe, its all about balancing risk for reward, you can earn alot from trading if you know how to doit.
1860  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best Paying Bitcoin Faucets list for newbies :) on: April 11, 2015, 10:26:14 PM
Interesting, i also made like 200.000 satoshi from it today, so it's a very nice faucet list i recommend to anyone!
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