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1881  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MetaCo.in is finally live! First bitcoin group-buying deal is up! on: June 19, 2011, 05:20:56 PM
I wanted to chime in and thank Gabriel and everyone else at Metaco.in for asking me to participate in the first Metaco.in promotion. I'm deeply honored, guys.

I'd also like to remind all of you that an excellent cup of BitBrew coffee is a great way to introduce someone to bitcoins! Offer them a cup, and when they ask where you got it from, you can inform them that it's only available for purchase with this great new decentralized, crypto-currency.

Do you ship to Europe? What price? I might take this offer if you do.
1882  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTC Guild - 0% Fees, Long polling, SSL, JSON API, and more [~2000 gH/sec] on: June 19, 2011, 05:16:23 PM
UK server replaced by NL2 server.  btcguild.com, uk.btcguild.com and the old eu.btcguild.com are now all pointed at NL2 to get the load off of US Central/NL1.

I have switched my miners towards nl2 to get load out of the others. Now the Last Share stat does not work. It shows always 1s. The Shares (Stale) stats seems to be working.
1883  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 19, 2011, 04:43:39 PM
As for my question, I want you to summerize your own understanding of what 'Keynesianism' is and why it's bad.

Economics is just too broad subject, I was giving you the upper hand by letting you choose an area.

You want me to choose: Aggregates. This is one of the big fuck ups of keynesianism. It leads to the idea that the crisis are created by lack of demand and the idea of slack capacity, which is basically nonsense.

The idea that the present crisis has been caused by a lack of demand (as keynesians like Krugman have said) is evidently wrong. The USA had a wrong sturcture of production, basically producing too many houses and sectors that gravitated around the housing bubble. The fact that the demand fo rhouses has decreased is a good thing and does not mean that the general demand (such thing is a concept, it really does not exists) has fallen. What its happening is that the demand is re-arranging for what the people really need and want. The problem is the productive capacity is not producing those types of goods (it has capacity to produce too many houses). The demand and the supply are descoordinated.

There is not slack capacity. There is basically malinvestments that need to be purged. If you believe there is slack capacity you bascially believe that you need to keep building more houses (and asociate industries), because that is the type of capacity that exists.
1884  Economy / Economics / Re: The Labor Theory of Money w/ regards to Microeconomics... on: June 19, 2011, 04:30:33 PM
I may been unclear.  I meant to say that traditionally the Fed buys securities from a bank, and then the bank will use the cash they've received from the Fed to make a loan. 

You are very clear. And you have this detail wrong, although it does not change the big picutre of what you are saying. Banks lend the money out first and then look for money of the Fed to keep the ratios. So the money is lent first by the banks, and later on the Fed creates the money to cover the operations, not the other way around.

I still dont understand what it has to do with the labour theory of value.
1885  Economy / Economics / Re: The Labor Theory of Money w/ regards to Microeconomics... on: June 19, 2011, 04:28:29 PM
I believe that the concept of "voluntary" is quite abused by Libertarians and especially the  Austrian school in not recognizing the inherent power differentials and coercion that creep into any relationship where one is selling one's labor to another.

Austrian economics is only descriptive and with some capability of prediction, like any other science its amoral. Recognizing the morality or inmorality of some arrengement is not the task of austrian economics, the same way recognizing the morality or inmorality of an arrengement is not the task of physics or medicine. Science should describe an arrangement and predit its results. The task of saying if it is moral or inmoral belongs to morality/politics/philosophy.
1886  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 19, 2011, 04:24:55 PM
Go on then, explain to the people.

What part of economics are you interested on discussing?

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Social-democracy is just a kind facade for corporatism, so yes, I think its pretty accurate to say that a big part of the USA democrats are social-democrats.

Social-democracy just increases the power of the political elites and their allies, increases the gap between rich and poor, diminishes the standards of living, and usually tend to collapse or degenerate promoting warmongers to government.

Here you have answered in American. In European "Social Democracy" is something else entirely, I don't think it's currently possible to articulate the concept in American.[/quote]

Im from Europe. I was talking about the general concept of social-democray. Social-democray is corporatism.
1887  Economy / Economics / Re: The Labor Theory of Money w/ regards to Microeconomics... on: June 19, 2011, 04:05:59 PM
My main doubt is what has the Labor theory of value to do with all this?

There are a couple of things:

The Fed does this in order to control, or manipulate the US money supply and therefore control inflation,

Central banks dont try to control price inflation, one of their tasks is to create price inflation, usually with a target of 2%.

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Traditionally Banks have lended out the money they receive from the Fed,

Its the other way around. Banks lend out the money first, and later on the Fed creates it to cover the banks.
1888  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 19, 2011, 03:40:10 PM
Most posters on this forum have no idea what "Keynesianism" is. The use of the term usually indicates the persons programming with emotional trigger words by opinion-manufacturers.

Generalizing much?


You'd think.Sad

Yes, I think. I can explain you logically why keynesianism does not work and the main points why keynesiansim is wrong.

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But Liberal in the USA does not mean the same as it means in the rest of the world or what it used to mean in the USA. Liberal in the USA is basically social-democrat while european liberals oppose social-democracy. If you want to refer to real liberalism in the USA you have to use classic liberal, as opposed to progressive liberal. This happened because duting the last part of the XIX century begginning of the XX the progressive movement highjacked the Democrat party, that was liberal (supporting free markets and individual liberty) and changed its program. But the word liberal stuck, thus chaning the meaning in the USA.

That's a fair point, although the idea that the Democrats represent Social Democracy is laughable, they represent nothing of the sort, Wall Street maybe... if "Progressive" is American for "Big Finance" anyway. Building concepts of social-democracy inside the US political power structure is like building a snow man in hell. Full employment, rising standards of living, human rigths and the taxpayer being the same thing as tax expenditure, I'm not sure that kind of thinking exists in the society these Libertarian types come from.

Anyway it's this orwellification of language and historical context that I fnd so objectionable when I come across it; the disconnections and reversals and pavlovian fetishisation of slogans. In this way people can string together any old nonesense and call it "rational argument". Perhaps that's the point.

Freedom is Slavery people, doubleplus good.

Social-democracy is just a kind facade for corporatism, so yes, I think its pretty accurate to say that a big part of the USA democrats are social-democrats.

Social-democracy just increases the power of the political elites and their allies, increases the gap between rich and poor, diminishes the standards of living, and usually tend to collapse or degenerate promoting warmongers to government.
1889  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 5870 overclocking and fan speed [I do donate] on: June 19, 2011, 03:15:07 PM
To overclock in Linux is better to use AMDOverdriveCtrl. Google it.
1890  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul 2012. Or else. on: June 19, 2011, 03:04:53 PM
Dr. Paul graduated from Duke med school.  He has forgotten more facts about biology and the Constitution than a churlish simpleton such as yourself will ever know about either topic.

Your aggressive demeanor and immediate jump to personal attacks means that any attempt at a rational civil conversation is probably doomed.  Nevertheless, there's one point I cannot let pass: evolution is the cornerstone of modern Biology.  As Theodosius Dobzhansky famously stated, "Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution". If you think that anyone who denies evolution truly understands biology then I'm afraid you're too deep into the swamps of ignorance for any forum discussion to enlighten you.  Moreover, Ron Paul's support of creationism is a powerful signifier that he himself is too detached from physical reality to ever be a good president.


Ron Paul does not deny evolution. Your opinion is probably based on a manipulated youtube video. I recommend that you go and find the complete version of the video. Ron Paul is saying that evolution happens but that there had to be an initial point for live and he believe god did it. He is religious and believes what many religious person do, including f.e. Obama (who believes exaclty the same as Ron Paul in this issue).
1891  Economy / Economics / Re: economics sub-board should be removed on: June 19, 2011, 02:55:58 PM
Most posters on this forum have no idea what "Keynesianism" is. The use of the term usually indicates the persons programming with emotional trigger words by opinion-manufacturers.

Generalizing much?

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It's like "Liberalism", the distinctive feature of 'Western culture' is liberalism, conservatives in the West are (theoretically) conservative of the Wests Liberal tradition, anyone who knows the history of Liberalism and what it means in the historical context and its relationship to the contemporary Western  understanding of the world, of the individual, and of his or her relationship with religion and the state, would not spout the word "Liberal" in the way the average 6-pack chugging Tea Party barfing Fox-New recepticle does, with the raving emotionalism of the ignoramus.

Many people do not know how to think, and many that do use their powers only to manipulate others. It's sad.

But Liberal in the USA does not mean the same as it means in the rest of the world or what it used to mean in the USA. Liberal in the USA is basically social-democrat while european liberals oppose social-democracy. If you want to refer to real liberalism in the USA you have to use classic liberal, as opposed to progressive liberal. This happened because duting the last part of the XIX century begginning of the XX the progressive movement highjacked the Democrat party, that was liberal (supporting free markets and individual liberty) and changed its program. But the word liberal stuck, thus chaning the meaning in the USA.
1892  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul on: June 19, 2011, 02:00:59 PM
Opposes network neutrality on the Internet.

Ron Pauls supports net neutrality, that menas he is against the law with the orwellian title of Net Neutrality. That law is nothing else that the government starting to regulate the internet and anyone supporting net neutrality should oppose it.
1893  Economy / Economics / Re: difficulty is holding back BTC value on: June 19, 2011, 01:54:24 PM
Value of BTC drives difficulty.

And vice versa, as shown above.  Or are you an irrational who would buy 10 BTC for $500 even if you could mine 200 for the same $500?

Mining and buying BTC are 2 different ways to do the same thing: obtain BTC.  If you are rational about it, and one method is significantly more efficient than the other, you will use that method.  Therefore difficulty and value are closely related.  Difficulty gets too low, rational people shift to mining.  Value gets too low, and rational people shift away from mining into buying.

Not necesarely. A lot of people dont have the knowledge or can not be bothered going into mining, so even if mining is more profitable at some point they will be buying. In the same way, even when buying is the most profitable option people can make long term plan and decide to go mining. In reality, nobody knows what will be more profitable, mining or buying. All people do is decide whether mining or buying is more profitable under the present circusntamces, but nobody knows what will be the future circumpstances so in reality nobody knows what the answer is. Its not as simple as you are painting it.
1894  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Don't listen to all the propagandists. Mining is fine. on: June 19, 2011, 10:13:13 AM
Mining is still very profitable, and if it wasn't, these assholes wouldn't be spending their free time trying to convince you not to do it.

Mining is profitable, right now, but will not be profitable for anyone if people mindlessly pile in with thousands of dollars in additional hardware without taking into account the regular 50% difficulty increases every 10 days or so.

There's also nothing like trying to bring people over to your side of thinking and convince them by calling them names.

Mining is profitable right now if you have the initial investment paid. But if you expect to get the initial investment back that is another issue.
1895  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Market Survey! on: June 19, 2011, 10:11:32 AM
You should not ask age, gender and how many bitcoins someone owns. I understand your commercial interest but I will not answer those type of questios. I left the first option on all those questions and answered the rest.
1896  Economy / Economics / Re: Marginal value of a bitcoin on: June 19, 2011, 10:05:50 AM
What would one more bitcoin be worth to you?

I'm interested to know if anyone thinks their marginal coin is worth far more or less than market rates. If an extra coin is worth less than market rate to you, why aren't you selling some? If a coin is worth more to you than market rate, why aren't you buying? Do we really all value an extra coin in the same narrow range?

I value more a bitcoin in 5 years than anything a bitcoin can get me now.

EDIT: Actually its not true, since I have used my bitcoins to buy several stuff, but it sounded cool.  Wink
1897  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Don't listen to all the propagandists. Mining is fine. on: June 19, 2011, 09:06:38 AM
I'm still making $60 on average per day (with 1 BTC = $15), and at max my electricity usage for my rigs is $4 per day, therefore mining is very fine Smiley

Can you tell us your rig and your Kwh rate?
1898  Economy / Economics / Re: All mining might be illegal/parasitic soon on: June 19, 2011, 08:28:23 AM
I predict ASICs will arrive in ~ 3 months if the price stays stable.

That is a "risky" prediction given that some company has already announced they will have them in September-October. Although in this kind of projects, delays are the norm not the exception.
1899  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Funniest and stupidest Bitcoin criticisms on: June 19, 2011, 08:23:20 AM
Some people could argue that the best part of love is about touching, but I get your point.   Grin

You are confused. That is the best part of sex. Grin
1900  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goodbye for now on: June 19, 2011, 07:29:22 AM
Not sure where you live, but I doubt they'll kill you.

They will throw you in jail. What a relief...
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