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1881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] OzoneChain [OZO] | Quantum Resistant Blockchain | Mainnet Live on: July 07, 2023, 11:25:01 PM
Sad for me because i have no smerit so that's why i can't participate your signature campaign. By the way i have join ozo airdrops so Let's see enjoy.
You still can join OzoneChain airdrops, so don't feel so badly.
Anyway, if you believe in this project, you also can join the pre sale (buying some OZO coins). It is already Pre Sale 4, the price increases gradually. Current price is $0.19, it will be $0.2 in the next phase. You should know that the listing price will be $0.22. Why don't take this opportunity, buddy?  Wink

Note: You should open a social media campaign for best promoting this project.
They have it, please take a look on this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454115.0

1882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Buy more ETH..... on: July 06, 2023, 11:52:21 PM
Maybe I think ETH is the leader in the Park when it comes to altcoins I mean right now the only best smart-contract is ETH and it has the highest liquidity so yeah I think once regulations passes on ETH then no doubt it will get to around ten-figures So yeah ETH will be big but also try lookup other tokens I think SUI and Aptos are a good fit
Which one is the best smart-contract can be debatable, but the most popular one is clearly Ethereum. There are some indicators to know which one is the best smart-contract, you can check it here https://cointelegraph.com/learn/smart-contract-development-platforms.

SUI and Aptos are incomparable with ETH. Although these tokens are quite hype now, they aren't proven for a long time. Previously we have EOS, NEM, WAVES, or LUNA, they are ever hype a few years ago. But now, they are no longer hype and rarely people who assume they are potential or good tokens anymore. So, it is okay if you want to hold SUI or Aptos for a short time, but I think they aren't recommended for a long time.

1883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you still hunt for airdrops? on: July 06, 2023, 11:33:16 PM
I believe before participating in any airdrops, it is worth checking the official website of the project and analyzing it.
You also need to pay attention to the proposed product, technology and get to know the team.
I think most people do this. Before they join the airdrops, they will analyze the site and the project itself. However, it won't be easy to determine whether it is a good or bad project. The products or MVPs can look good in the early of promotion, but it may end up with poor development in the future. About the team members, it is easy to manipulate their identities. Sometimes, it is a bit difficult to analyze the background of each team member.

Never follow suspicious links or connect your wallet to suspicious websites.
Sure, be careful to connect our private wallets. Never do it if it seems not secure enough.

Stayaway from connecting your wallet to multiple garbage Sites people Maybe check the project first research its community and check the backers Most project dont ask to  connect wallet to collect airdrop just like that.
It is true that commonly they only ask for the wallet address, they don't ask for connecting the wallets.
However, if there is a task to connect our private wallets, it is better to create new wallets. Never connect the wallets where we hold our tokens/coins.

1884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 06, 2023, 11:06:22 PM
There are many purposes of KYC not just the two that you mentioned. There is that; It is used for the government to get involved in the casino so that they can legally tax them. KYC can also be used to possibly prevent or reduce the fraudulent activity inside the casino.

If the casino is not strict enough in terms of KYC verifications then yes it can be bypassed easily if the gambler is also wise enough. Inside job can also happen where the casino can get bribes in exchange of immediate access and these gamblers will not be asked by a KYC in the future. There are casinos who doesn't mandate a KYC but only restrict some certain countries. This can easily be bypassed by using a VPN but this was still risky because our accounts or withdrawals can get blocked later on.
Indeed. KYC may have varied purposes, not only 2 purposes I stated above. I never said that KYC only has 2 purposes, so I never limit the purposes.
I agree that tax issues and avoid fraudulent activity are 2 other reasons of KYC procedure. Without KYC, the government has no chance to identify people's data to be imposed with the tax. The casino will be also difficult to handle fraudulent activities because they have no data of each gambler. These are just the examples of the benefits of KYC.

That's exactly what the points of my explanation above.
KYC verification can be manipulated with fake data, but I think it will be a small chance to bribe money to the team members of the casinos. Regarding the country restriction, surely it can be bypassed by VPN. But the gambler ID can show where the gambler comes, it can't be handle by VPN only. However, it can still be passed with fake data.

1885  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcointalk; a school on its own. on: July 06, 2023, 10:50:28 PM
It fits perfectly to define the Bitcointalk Forum as a school, I totally agree with this assumption. Anyone who comes here will be taught basic things about Bitcoin and other alternative cryptocurrencies, anyone can develop their knowledge while they are here.
Something that is not yet known can be learned here, the Bitcointalk forum can also be used as a place to look for bonuses while learning. The more senior members have benefited a lot here, they are also very friendly to newcomers by pointing the juniors to finer things.
Whether it fits or not to call Bitcointalk as a school, it is true that Bitcointalk is the right place to improve knowledge. We even don't learn about Bitcoin or crypto only, we also learn world current issues and many things related to our daily life. Since forum requires for quality posts, most people post valid information here. So, this forum deserves to be a place to learn many things.

Another thing that makes this forum is interesting that we can join any discussion with varied topics. We don't only get knowledge or information from other people, we also can deliver information to other people. So, everyone here can contribute to improve knowledge each others. Whether seniors or newcomers have opportunities to share information or their knowledge.

1886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 05, 2023, 11:58:44 PM
for crypto casinos maybe KYC verification is more organized. but for other online casinos, especially those that focus on access with fiat or even those with applications such as slot games. Data verification is rarely important in games like that.
I don't see the difference between crypto casinos and other online casinos. KYC should be organized and the verification must be important. Any type of casinos will follow the same rules, they must exclude the underage. But the problem is on the way to validate the data, it is always a chance to manipulate it, no matter how strict the process is.

still, children who are still in school or not old enough according to regulations can still access gambling applications. After all, there are people who do not like KYC, and some casinos and gambling sites can make it easy for them to keep playing.
In each country, the age limit can be different. But generally, school kids shouldn't join gambling since they are actually underage. They are not mature enough to play gambling, it may lead to early addiction.

1887  Economy / Economics / Re: I cannot go home if I don't make a lot of money now!! on: July 05, 2023, 11:52:05 PM
Previously, did your mother demand that you always get good scores in a math test? If not, why should you be afraid.
He only stated to feel afraid when he got 0 (zero) mark. He didn't say his mother become angry when he can't get score as expected. I assume it is just his assumption that his mother will angry, it was probably never proven. He may feel too negatively about the consequence.

Excessive fear will make you more trapped in nightmares, you will find it difficult to be creative if you cannot get rid of fear.
Agree. Feel excessively/negatively will lead us to have no satisfaction in doing everything. People who think in this way will be difficult to accept his destiny and probably feel afraid to try new things. At the end of the day, it is hard to enjoy his life because he always think badly if he failed to do something.

Regarding the money you have to take home depending on your job, normally in one line of work you can bring home $10 or $15 each day. Don't be too pressured to bring home $20 because you have to work overtime to get more benefits.
Agree. We must thank to the God whatever the amount of money we get everyday. Even it is only $10, we can feel happy if we think positively.

1888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Buy more ETH..... on: July 05, 2023, 11:37:13 PM
Looking at effective price of altcoins ETH has not really record a bad history and very soon ETH will hit way bigger and better,
Every coin has its ATL (all time low), no coin never experienced a bad history.
Sure, ETH will increase its price gradually following the trend of Bitcoin price. Every altcoins will reach a bigger and bigger price if Bitcoin price continues to grow. And if we constantly have positive/good news.

if you have sphere money buy plenty of it and allow it to run for five years and watch what the outcome will be.
Sphere money? do you mean spare money?
It shouldn't take for five years. The next bullrun probably happens in 2024-2025, it means it only take 1-2 years.

Let's not surprise when ETH will shook the market cap of world trade many will be made billionaires and by then it will be too late for others you didn't buy at all.
It is your speculation. I think BTC will be always in the top of best market caps.
Not everyone invests in big amount of money. So, only those people who have big numbers of ETH that possibly become billionaires.

1889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kyc for wallets on: July 05, 2023, 11:09:13 PM
kyc puts you personal information and privacy at risk it also gives ability for your transactions to be monitored.
So please before making wallet registrations always read through terms and conditions as well as privacy policy
Or rather get a hard ware wallet especially if you have large amounts of Bitcoin or other crypto currencies
KYC is required for wallets on CEX (centralized exchanges).
If we don't want to have KYC procedure, we must choose non-custodial wallets.
There are some alternatives for non-custodial wallets:
1). Software wallets
Ex: Metamask
2). Hardware wallets
Ex: Nano X
3). Paper wallets

For a big number of Bitcoin, non-custodial wallets are the most recommended.

Take a look:
https://www.coindesk.com/learn/custodial-wallets-vs-non-custodial-crypto-wallets/
https://www.ledger.com/academy/glossary/non-custodial-wallet

Noncustodial wallets do not require KYC, he is referring to custodial wallets and custodial exchanges. Both are not even wallets, they are accounts.
Agree. It is actually an account and it is not a private wallet. Custodial wallets or wallets on exchanges can be a place to put Bitcoin in small number temporarily, but it is surely not a safe place for long term holding.

1890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 04, 2023, 11:59:11 PM
Vlahovic is a 23-year-old player who plays as a striker for Juventus and also for the Serbian national team.
He is also quite a talented player in my opinion to make Chelsea interested in making an offer to Juventus for Vlahovic.
The offer submitted by Chelsea was still not commensurate with the performance provided by Vlahovic for Juventus, so it was only natural that Juventus rejected the offer.
Instead of accepting the offer, I'm sure Juventus will keep Vlahovic as one of their core players considering that Juventus really need great players this summer.
True. The offer isn't enough for Juventus. They must reject the offer below the market value. They know Vlahovic is a potential striker and can be better in the future. Vlahovic is still 23 years old, there is still a long time for him to grow his ability. I'm sure Juventus wants him as their future asset, so Juventus prefer to keep him. But if there is an interesting offer, Juventus may change their mind.

I do not understand
In my opinion, Juventus is not in a position to refuse
true potentially it's worth 70, but if they give you 60 and since you're in a bit of a bad way with the money, take it and that's good
there's no point in throwing money with a player who doesn't want to play with you (among other things)
It is not too complicated, you should understand it. Vlahovic is still young, has a good performance, and worth €70 million. If you are Juventus management, you must reject Chelsea offer because it's not worth the Vlahovic's value. Moreover, Vlahovic has stated that he wants to stay with Juventus for a more season. So, Juventus has no reason to sell him at under market value.

1891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 04, 2023, 11:52:51 PM
This is another issue with the KYC, that is FAKE documents submit to pass the KYC (And I will discuss this separately) but if the casino can't check if the data provided with us is real or fake, then what is the purpose of the KYC. Casinos should have a mechanism to verify the data and an intelligent system that can detect fake ID Cards, driving licenses, and/or passport submissions.

They could make use of live camera technology to scan these documents but the point is that once they make an effort to collect real data, they should also make use of that data correctly, which means that they should filter the minors and deny them the opportunity to gamble.
The purpose of KYC procedure is to eliminate the underage and the people from restricted countries. But there is always a chance for people to manipulate the data, they can use fake data to register on the casino sites. Casino must have a good mechanism to validate the data, but Casino has no ability to know who is the real user of the account. As I said above, underage can use his parents data, while people from restricted area can use other people data from permitted area. No mechanism is perfect, even a strong security can be hacked by scammers.

1892  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is buying merit parmited on: July 04, 2023, 11:45:01 PM
The forum has no control on it but as a responsible member, you should know that buying merits are strictly prohibited and should never be encouraged. Simply because that will not be your asset and that will not make you knowledgeable and become significant member in the forum. Merits are only given to those who deserve it, and not to be bought since your worth and quality will never be bought in the first place.
Forum controls it, that's why DT members give a red tag to the member who is buying merits. If forum has no control, forum won't respond anything to the merit sales.

Of course, every member mustn't sell or buy their merits, it is actually not a proper way. It is unfair to get merits without any effort, people get merits because of their contribution and the quality of their posts. It is the only way to get merits, buying merits can be categorized by cheating the merit system.

I agree that merits are only for the deserved members. Improve posts quality, more active, and do any contribution to earn merits. It is the way to deserve for merits!

1893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will fall or rise? $30400 the recent price on: July 04, 2023, 11:35:22 PM
There are some people who are still waiting for $25,000 before $35,000 which includes me. Cheesy
For the people who still have the money and want to collect more Bitcoin, it is normal to expect Bitcoin to drop again $25k.  Grin
However, I doubt if Bitcoin will free fall again to $25k, the current price is around $30k-$31k, too far from $25k. If there is no big FUDs, I am not sure Bitcoin will drop more than $5k.

What happening on Bitcoin now is fighting for resistance, it's a good start to the month of July. But on the other hand, with the pump recently and fewer price corrections, Bitcoin is becoming oversold now at the current level which is $31,000.
For me now, if ever we will fall again below $30,000 this month, I am really expecting to see the $25,000 first before $35,000.
It is always fighting for a new resistance since the early of this year. After a pump, there should be a correction, but the price change isn't so significant lately. Although we still have bad news related to Binance problem with SEC, there is no significant drop again in Bitcoin price. I think it indicates that people are no longer feeling afraid about the current situation. People become more mature and ready with every FUDs, so I'm not sure that the price will drop significantly again to $25k.

1894  Economy / Economics / Re: I cannot go home if I don't make a lot of money now!! on: July 04, 2023, 11:24:52 PM
Money is needed but you seems too much thinking about money.

The term of lot of money can be different among people. How much money do you think enough for you?
Anyway, whatever the amount of money will be always not enough for any people, we always want more and more. So, I believe it is difficult to determine how much money money that can be classified 'a lot of money' for you.

Dude, home should be the most comfortable place for us. It is just a wrong perception if you feel uncomfortable to go home whatever the reason is. Your family members must understand you although you can get the money as expected. Go for work is a must, but sometimes we can't determine how much money to get. Personally, I will be happy to go home whatever he money I got from my job.

1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 03, 2023, 11:59:08 PM
Chelsea again had to bite their fingers after their bid for Vlahovic was rejected by Juventus. I think Chelsea have really had an unlucky rally in signings where Victor osimhen also turned down their offers and it was really bad luck for Chelsea. Chelsea made a €60 million bid for Juventus to sign Vlahovic but that figure is far from what Juventus wanted.

Now for juventus they have got Weah who was brought in recently and it is certain he is the right signing which allegri is doing to add strength to them for next season. Weah is no stranger to Serie A, I think he will quickly adapt to the Juventus squad next season. Vlahovic still really wants to stay with Juventus for next season so he asked the management not to sell him in this transfer window.
The current market value of Vlahovic is about €70 million. I can understand if Juventus rejected Chelsea bid, it is still below the market value. Juventus probably consider Chelsea offer if it is above €80 million. I guess Juventus wants €90 - €100 million for Vlahovic transfer fees. Moreover, Vlahovic is Juventus main striker, Juventus prefers to defend him than selling him now.

Weah is a new winger for Juventus squad, his main position is a right winger. It is a nice signing since Juventus has no good right winger. Chiesa - Weah can be a great combination for Juventus wingers in the next season. Vlahovic can get a better supports from wingers, so he can be more productive. This can be the reason for Vlahovic to stay for a more season in Juventus.

1896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 03, 2023, 11:51:42 PM
I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.
It is true that commonly the minimum age for gambling is 18+. Someone is considered mature enough when he is already 18+.
I'm sure that most online casinos are trying to follow this age minimum. But the gambler can falsify his data, he can use his parent ID to pass KYC on the casino sites.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
Casino sites can strict the KYC procedure. But there is always a chance for fake data. It is something difficult to do by the casino sites. Even if they use a live KYC procedure to validate the data, a smart one can always know how to manipulate it. Well, a live KYC may be the best way to eliminate underage. I don't think any other ways to deal with this matter.

1897  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do not limits your investment... on: July 03, 2023, 11:38:13 PM
Investing in shitcoins and hoping for the best is not precisely a strategy that can be used to obtain good results over the long term, your friend was lucky and that is it, now if you were to ask your friend about this I doubt they will admit it, as people like to think that whatever positive outcomes they get are because of their qualities and virtues, but this is a clear case in which this is not true, as there are many people like your friend which lost everything when they invested in shitcoins.
Agree. Investing in shitcoins is always too risky, most of shitcoins end up with scams or have no value. His friend is just lucky that he can take profits from the shitcoins and can convert the profits to Bitcoin. However, I am sure his friend may get a different result if he invests again in shitcoins now. The chance to take profits on shitcoins is very low, we don't follow that his friend ever did.

For the long term investment, it is always recommended to choose top coins, especially Bitcoin or Ethereum. The price movement of these coins are clearer than any other coins, the always have the same scheme in each 4 years cycle. And these coins have strong fundamentals that become the main requirement for a long term holding.

1898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stablecoin for bitcoin on: July 03, 2023, 11:22:34 PM
I see in this forum that many disagree with the concept of fiat money. But if we look at the price of bitcoin, most people like it when the price of bitcoin goes up. This means bitcoin is inseparable and independent as a currency without considering fiat dollars. At this point, bitcoin is considered an asset
People hates fiats because it is fully controlled by the government and its physical actually has no value. People may disagree fiats but people support that we still need physical money.

Bitcoin value is compared with fiats. Sure, Bitcoin can't stand alone now, not everywhere it can be used as a currency. In my country, it is only used for a digital asset. It may stand alone when it is accepted as a payment tool in every place in the world.

With so many stablecoins for fiat dollars, bitcoin cannot break away from dollars. Maybe if you want to support bitcoin more and have bitcoin as the main base, is it possible to create a stablecoin for bitcoin?
What for stablecoin for Bitcoin?
I don't think we need more stablecoins, it is just another form of altcoins. The use of the coin will be the same at the end.

I haven't seen a stablecoin project for bitcoin yet. Maybe if there was a stablecoin for bitcoin then bitcoin would be considered the main currency in crypto and the price would be considered stable
You must know that no coin has a really stable in price. Even it is a stablecoin, the price can change a bit. But the change isn't as significant as common coins. Anyway, I doubt if we can have a main currency in crypto besides Bitcoin. Only Bitcoin that has a capability to be the main coin.

1899  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2024 will determined bitcoin fate on: July 03, 2023, 11:04:21 PM
What can happened in 2024 will surely be a part of is exciting history but it will surely not be a make or break one.
What do you mean?
If you mean bullrun or bullish to happen in 2024, it is likely to happen. So far, it never failed, bullish season always happened after the halving. But when BTC to hits a new ATH, no one really knows it. It can be in 2024 or in 2025, it may depend on the situation on the market or the news around crypo/BTC.

Surely, 2023 is the best year to accumulate Bitcoin though of course one has to be always mindful of the risks involve.
2022 should be the best time to buy or collect more Bitcoin. You must remember that BTC even dropped to $17k in 2022. Since the early of 2023, BTC price has increased a bit, it raises to $19k-$20k. If someone wants to accumulate Bitcoin as many as possible, it should be the ideal time in 2022. You already missed the best time to buy if you just plan to buy now. However, it is not too late since BTC price is still at a cheap rate.

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