Yes it can and will you  agree that one of the good definitions of being smart is "Half of being smart is knowing what you are dumb about" (Solomon Short), do you agree that this is well said?

maybe PG could provide some sources?

Isn't that great? To be honest, PG has raised a ton of money for charities, and have gotten some to accept Bitcoins. Plus, some of his trolling is actually pretty funny.

Humping=/=mounting but you you deserve a star for the valiant effort

problem 4: bitcoin is still beta, and too many scammers and hackers around


problem 5: Mt Gox won't be easily forgotten

Ok, i'm giving everyone thumbs up to start buying. My crystall ball says it's time.

(Edit: please noobs, i no nothing more than anyone else, just messing around).

hi jon, thanks for your communication effort. i have a question for you and johnbetts:

why are you guys don't join forces with the OKcoin team? from what i've heard, they offered their know-how and to license their trading software to make it easy for you, to restart gox as fast as possible.

i understand, that you want to run this on your own without the need to license anything. especially since you already put in a lot effort to make that deal possible. i'm quit sure your team has the legal capacity and a lot of experience in the financial business which are some badly needed qualifications. but you seem to forget, that dealing in bitcoin is quit special! at least i get that impression, when i read statements like that:



since your initial rehab plan was leaked (http://www.goxdox.org/) and everybody got the impression, that you don't care to much about the creditors, there is almost no support left for sunlot. statments like this only make things worse:


to me and almost everyone this reads between the lines like something more or less like this: "shit, our plan got leaked and now everybody knows that we only want to make a quick buck and don't give a shit about the creditors! lets tweak the plan a little and repeat everywhere how importand the creditors are to us, maybe that way we'll get their support back"

don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that's the case! i'm just saying it kind of sounds like that! there is absolutely no harm in admitting that this is business! it's about money and helping ppl can never be the first priority. we, the creditors, understand that! sunlot has to make money and there won't be any restart if you can't get a good deal for yourself. we don't blame you for that! but to get our support the deal has to be fair! as long as it feels like a total fuck over there won't be much support.

my impression is that the sunlot team learned from their mistake and is now trying to do better, i.e. work together with the creditors for a solution everybody or at least the majority can agree to. so far there is still much greater support for the OKcoin proposal or, lets say, for what the OKcoin proposal is expected to be.

my personal impression is, that OKcoin might be somewhat optimistic regarding the legal and regulatory hurdles and what they can promise the creditors without cripling the new gox right from the beginning. you guys might be somewhat optimistic when it comes to all the possible technical glitches that can fuck up a bitcoin exchange! ("bitcoin is just another asset class, not different to stocks when it comes to trading" johnbetts)

even if i'm wrong and you have the expertise, your leaked initial plan lost you the community support. OKcoin has our support and a approved bitcoin trading engine ready to go, sunlot has the connections and resources to deal with all the non technical issues.

sounds like a dream team to me!


and last, but not least: if there is no chance to join forces for whatever reason, you might want to come up with a better plan to get more support. i personally don't need 49% equity! but i can't trust sunlot as long as you just use mt.gox [our] assets at the beginning. i'm talking about the 10m you want to take out to get started. put a reasonable amount of your own money at stake! trust can be bought. at least in this case...

Read the article again:


They are getting some of their coins back, and they are getting shares of Mt Gox. This is the best possible outcome for the users.

Wow, just wow.
What does this mean? That interpol seized their FB accounts?
What is "Buffalo J.A." supposed to mean?

Also take a look at that : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=232382176955116&set=a.232382173621783.1073741863.100005500064568&type=1&theater

Oh the irony...

Besides both "sources" being run by retards, their source (societe.com) does not concern bitcoin deposits (not reported anywhere) nor customers deposits (never were with Bitcoin-Central but banking partners). And the societe.com reports aren't of any use either (and you don't need to understand much of French accounting to get it).

If you want to be taken seriously, understand what you are quoting.

I will scan one of our last completed cases if you like to see them.
They are not in English so i hope you have some translator.
We are legally incorporated in European country and the document is valid in all European country's.
We have no problem to travel,we have translators and different ways of strategy depends on the case.
We also choose which country laws to choose based on the case.
If you have any interests of using our services,feel free to contact us via PM.
I would like the conversation to be transparent for the mods and private just for us (Private message).

but but where the Mount part in the picture?

The Village of The Banned is a bit of a sendup of "The Village of The Damned", now isn't it?