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1941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 31, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
Yes it has a future. It can reach the moon. Didn't you see the logo  Grin

The MOON is not the destination, we are headed to Mars, the moon is just to main stream! sit tight

And yes this coin has a future, if it didn't you wont see this much people supporting and the trade volumes speaks for it self for a week old coin
1942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 31, 2013, 12:34:43 PM
Guys stop selling your coins dirt cheap, they should be at least 3x to 5x their currect value, you are losing potentiel money if you sell this low. the current price was about right for previous difficulty but it is no with the current, demand on cats is soaring. So set your price high or hold dem cat.
1943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [PRE-ANN] [MSL] ISLAMIC COIN (launch 1st Rabi' al-thani 1434 / 11. feb 2013) on: December 31, 2013, 01:56:44 AM
lol well that got me interessted keep it up !
1944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 31, 2013, 01:55:23 AM
Anyone doing a wiki page and what is the progress on it? I'll be making a french one once the english version is released
1945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 31, 2013, 01:45:03 AM
WTS 41980.8068944Moon for BTC/LTC/DOGE/CAT/XPM   at a ratio of 0.0000002 (Moon/BTC) or pm me your price I'm willing take your offers as long as it is raisonnable ( Will sell in increments, or escrow, or you send first this unless you have a great reputation )

Hmm, people selling for 0.00000001, 20x higher is just a joke.

Ok in front of everyone I'm taking you on this offer, I'm buying your Moon coins at that rate (the price listed on the spreedsheet) lets see if you dare or were you just trying desperitly to drop the price

Buying 100000 mooncoins as a start lets see if you have some balls
1946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 31, 2013, 01:36:20 AM
succesfull transaction with chrissibel
thank you for your trade.
1947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 31, 2013, 12:05:41 AM
WTS 41980.8068944Moon for BTC/LTC/DOGE/CAT/XPM   at a ratio of 0.0000002 (Moon/BTC) or pm me your price I'm willing take your offers as long as it is raisonnable ( Will sell in increments, or escrow, or you send first this unless you have a great reputation )

Hmm, people selling for 0.00000001, 20x higher is just a joke.

You are the joke, and learn how to count 1m moon goes for 0.25btc which meants that the ratio = 0.00000025

Just because you say something doesn't make it true lol.

Well I didn't say a thing I just quoted the going price.

also the guy who's saying it's a joke here is his sell/but offer

Wts: 25mil moon / 1 btc (110mil available only!)

Wtb: 0.1 btc per 10m moon

Pm me.

He is selling his Moon for 0.04 btc per 1 million and buying for 0.01 in the same annoucement I'll leave this argument at this.

Is it strange? I bought 135 mil at 0.1 per 10mil and sell for 0.4 per 10 mil? Enoguh profit for me. Better have profit now than keep the shit for weeks. Keep dreaming.

No it's not strange, but people are not as retarded as you think they are, you want to make people and you are stupidly obious about it in the same like you sell 4x higher than the price you buy for at least be inteligent about.
Not like I care about you do I saw your annoucement and it made laugh but I didn't middle and started pointing fingers but on the other hand you did! and at the same time you want to give lessons about ethics? really?


Come on guy. If people claim they can sell 1m for 0.25 btc, why wouldnt people buy at 0.04 btc?
Just because buy/sell in same post?

Please just stop it's not even funny, are you drunk? or being stupid?, sell and buy at whatever rate you want you are free to do what you want, price rise and goes down depending on offre and demand that's not even the point

The point is you call me out for my offre which was just duplucated of several previous transaction, while YOU at the same time selling your coins 4x times the price you are buying them ON THE SAME POST

Let me dumb it up for you, maybe you'll manage to see the contrast here
Sell : 1BTC for 1 BTC
Buy : 1BTC for 0.25 BTC   do you see how ridiculous this is

But you are free to do what you want I don't care, just don't call me out when you are doing something this ridiculous
1948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 30, 2013, 11:53:07 PM
WTS 41980.8068944Moon for BTC/LTC/DOGE/CAT/XPM   at a ratio of 0.0000002 (Moon/BTC) or pm me your price I'm willing take your offers as long as it is raisonnable ( Will sell in increments, or escrow, or you send first this unless you have a great reputation )

Hmm, people selling for 0.00000001, 20x higher is just a joke.

You are the joke, and learn how to count 1m moon goes for 0.25btc which meants that the ratio = 0.00000025

Just because you say something doesn't make it true lol.

Well I didn't say a thing I just quoted the going price.

also the guy who's saying it's a joke here is his sell/but offer

Wts: 25mil moon / 1 btc (110mil available only!)

Wtb: 0.1 btc per 10m moon

Pm me.

He is selling his Moon for 0.04 btc per 1 million and buying in the same annoucement I'll leave this argument at this.

Is it strange? I bought 135 mil at 0.1 per 10mil and sell for 0.4 per 10 mil? Enoguh profit for me. Better have profit now than keep the shit for weeks. Keep dreaming.


No it's not strange, but people are not as retarded as you think they are, you want to make people and you are stupidly obious about it in the same like you sell 4x higher than the price you buy for at least be inteligent about.
Not like I care about you do I saw your annoucement and it made laugh but I didn't middle and started pointing fingers but on the other hand you did! and at the same time you want to give lessons about ethics? really?
1949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 30, 2013, 11:46:42 PM
WTS 41980.8068944Moon for BTC/LTC/DOGE/CAT/XPM   at a ratio of 0.0000002 (Moon/BTC) or pm me your price I'm willing take your offers as long as it is raisonnable ( Will sell in increments, or escrow, or you send first this unless you have a great reputation )

Hmm, people selling for 0.00000001, 20x higher is just a joke.

You are the joke, and learn how to count 1m moon goes for 0.25btc which meants that the ratio = 0.00000025

Just because you say something doesn't make it true lol.

Well I didn't say a thing I just quoted the going price.

also the guy who's saying it's a joke here is his sell/but offer

Wts: 25mil moon / 1 btc (110mil available only!)

Wtb: 0.1 btc per 10m moon

Pm me.
[/quote

He is selling his Moon for 0.04 btc per 1 million and buying in the same annoucement I'll leave this argument at this.
Asking price is not going price...............


Thank you for your concern, but anyway that's my asking price for it, buy or leave it, I will change it at the correct time if needed.
1950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 30, 2013, 11:42:14 PM
WTS 41980.8068944Moon for BTC/LTC/DOGE/CAT/XPM   at a ratio of 0.0000002 (Moon/BTC) or pm me your price I'm willing take your offers as long as it is raisonnable ( Will sell in increments, or escrow, or you send first this unless you have a great reputation )

Hmm, people selling for 0.00000001, 20x higher is just a joke.

You are the joke, and learn how to count 1m moon goes for 0.25btc which meants that the ratio = 0.00000025

Just because you say something doesn't make it true lol.

Well I didn't say a thing I just quoted the going price.

also the guy who's saying it's a joke here is his sell/but offer

Wts: 25mil moon / 1 btc (110mil available only!)

Wtb: 0.1 btc per 10m moon

Pm me.

He is selling his Moon for 0.04 btc per 1 million and buying the same 1 million for 0.01 in the same annoucement, seriously I'll leave this argument at this. If price drops I will change it, if I feel I need to sell, but till then I'm free to ask what ever I want, I don't recall anyone commenting on some rediculious offers above that are at least 100x mine
1951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 30, 2013, 11:35:23 PM
WTS 41980.8068944Moon for BTC/LTC/DOGE/CAT/XPM   at a ratio of 0.0000002 (Moon/BTC) or pm me your price I'm willing take your offers as long as it is raisonnable ( Will sell in increments, or escrow, or you send first this unless you have a great reputation )

Hmm, people selling for 0.00000001, 20x higher is just a joke.

You are the joke, and learn how to count 1m moon goes for 0.25btc which meants that the ratio = 0.00000025
1952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS/WTB] Mooncoin buy and sell Spreadsheet on: December 30, 2013, 11:27:48 PM
WTS 41980.8068944Moon for BTC/LTC/DOGE/CAT/XPM   at a ratio of 0.0000002 (Moon/BTC) or pm me your price I'm willing take your offers as long as it is raisonnable ( Will sell in increments, or escrow, or you send first this unless you have a great reputation )
1953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 11:05:56 PM
Does anyone have a working wallet for OSX Mavericks?
I found some OSX wallets but they all give errors. They seems to work fine on Snow Leopard but not on Mavericks.  Cry


No Mavericks yet, the person that compiled the wallet for snowleopard said he'll update to Mavericks today and try to compile it, I don't remember his name but I suggest trowing some cats on him for his effort
1954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 02:40:24 PM
With ~ 2 minutes per block, there are ~ 30 blocks per hour
Block reward is 50 CATS so that's 1500 CATS per hour being created.

Multiply that by 24 and you get a daily total of 36000 CATS being created. (And we wonder why prices aren't increasing... Most miners don't invest so most of these 36000 are getting resold...)



for another 300 blocks that is. also your math is flawed or your equation is incomplete, the current hashrate (3Gh/s ish), is an inflation due to catcoin joining cryptsy and will not remain once the difficulty increases, the geniun coin hash rate is somewhere between 0.5-1.5Gh/s
1955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 02:32:23 PM
The network will be fine though some fat cat miners may tell you otherwise because they like how much more money they make mining CAT at the present difficulty.

What real investors in CAT need is a reduction in supply. Most miners don't really care about supply and if we're being honest, most miners don't really care about this coin so long as they have somewhere else they can make more money. CAT isn't an investment for them, it is just a cost benefit analysis. Real CAT investors should welcome higher difficulty since with higher difficulty our CATS will become more valuable. Higher difficulty dictates higher value. The difficulty on Bitcoin keeps rising astronomically though people don't balk about that and complain that the algorithm should be changed.

So in summary, higher difficulty is a very good thing.

We need the extra difficulty... The market is completely flooded with dumping miners. The only way for prices to go up is for supply to be restricted. Since it is seemingly impossible to convince many CAT miners of this fact, the only way to end the present onslaught is to reduce the supply of new coins entering the market.

The harder these coins are to mine, the better. Less supply means higher prices for those who own them. More price means people will find it just as profitable or moreso to mine than it is at present.

Can the network become less stable, if miners leave after difficulty recalc? -> there is no guarantee yet the CAT new demand gets large enough to offset weak holders dumping for the next 64 days ...if the CAT price doesn't stabilize at higher level the difficulty could be a real risk. So the issue is perhaps to make the jump less dramatic.

thanks Reece for reflecting, highly appreciated!


You are contradicting yourself : In one hand you say that most Cat miners don't care and will jump boat if difficulty is high or rather revenue is low (much less coin with high difficulty and the price will not necessary rise and if it does it will not happen instantly which will push miners to leave) and on the other hand you say that it's good, if miners leaves the coin is as good as dead especially with 64 days for next difficulty adjustement.

Let me set things straight, if you are saying that I'm one of the big miners, then rest assured, I have less catcoins than 99% of the people here which is less 200cats, my hash rate is 300-400kh/s  so no you are totally wrong

Also no one is saying the difficulty should not increase, that's not even the point here, read previous comments, all we are saying is instead of a dramatic increase that might just kill the coin and you can flush your coins to the (toillet) computer bin it's better to have a more saistainable increase x1.5 to x2 sounds reasonnable, it will give a certain amount of time to people and prices to adjust smoothly and to have the next difficulty attainable in a reasonnable amout of time aswell (if the hash rate remains as high after, it will be a matter of a couple of weeks or even less
1956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 01:56:51 PM
Three questions to tech and miner CATs:

- do you believe that large difficulty jump could hurt the CATcoin prospects?

- can the mining effort be reduced prior to recalc, to reduce the jump magnitude?

- would trust in CATcoin strengthen from the coordinated action of the stakeholders?



....
CATs network action has to be smart if you want to get to Mars!

- it's a double edged sword, a large difficulty could push miners to move to other coins, on the same time it could make the coin worth more, but again it's better to have a smoother increase

- Yes it is possible.

- I don't think it matter at much at this point, because the coin it self is still in it infancy, and the big guys didn't jump boat yet, but it might streghten the confidence of current stakeholders and might open a perspective to more.

386 blocks to go with the current hashrate of over 3Gh/s we are headed towards 400+ difficulty .... which is scary if you ask me, an increase to 100sh would be more reasonable

Diff can only go up by maximum 4 times.

Oh yes true I forgot about the limit but that's still 256 if I'm not mistaking
1957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Three questions to tech and miner CATs:

- do you believe that large difficulty jump could hurt the CATcoin prospects?

- can the mining effort be reduced prior to recalc, to reduce the jump magnitude?

- would trust in CATcoin strengthen from the coordinated action of the stakeholders?



....
CATs network action has to be smart if you want to get to Mars!

- it's a double edged sword, a large difficulty could push miners to move to other coins, on the same time it could make the coin worth more, but again it's better to have a smoother increase

- Yes it is possible.

- I don't think it matter at much at this point, because the coin it self is still in it infancy, and the big guys didn't jump boat yet, but it might streghten the confidence of current stakeholders and might open a perspective to more.

386 blocks to go with the current hashrate of over 3Gh/s we are headed towards 400+ difficulty .... which is scary if you ask me, an increase to 100sh would be more reasonable

How much time to recalc? Who would join the effort to reduce mining? making coin "worth more" might be a very risky bet...
POOLOWNERS -> MAKES ECONOMIC SENSE TO SLOW DOWN FOR AN HOUR BEFORE RECALC?
HEDGE YOUR RISK AND MAKE THIS COIN LEGEND NOT PUMP AND DUMP!


374 blocks left till recalucl, at current hash rate we are at around 1min 30s per block which amouts to a total 33660s or around 9hours and 20sh minutes this depends on the hash rate of course so this is just an estimation using current numbers

As for lowering the hashrate, I think the only way to this effictively is to do it with pools (pools provedes the highest hashrate) after 100block mark they should ask people to turn off their miners for a bit, or the Pools can do a maintenance periode of a couple of minutes.... ect (it's up to pool owners, people should think of ideas to help with this) but my fear is that I doubt that all pool owner will play the game if they agree to do to begin with (some greedy owners would want to get the traffic from those pools that are on pause and stuff like that) but again if people are responsable and wants the coin to have a long and stable life, they should turn their off their miners or forward toward another coin when we get to the last 50 blocks or so
1958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
Three questions to tech and miner CATs:

- do you believe that large difficulty jump could hurt the CATcoin prospects?

- can the mining effort be reduced prior to recalc, to reduce the jump magnitude?

- would trust in CATcoin strengthen from the coordinated action of the stakeholders?



....
CATs network action has to be smart if you want to get to Mars!

- it's a double edged sword, a large difficulty could push miners to move to other coins, on the same time it could make the coin worth more, but again it's better to have a smoother increase

- Yes it is possible.

- I don't think it matter at much at this point, because the coin it self is still in it infancy, and the big guys didn't jump boat yet, but it might streghten the confidence of current stakeholders and might open a perspective to more.

386 blocks to go with the current hashrate of over 3Gh/s we are headed towards 400+ difficulty .... which is scary if you ask me, an increase to 100sh would be more reasonable
1959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 01:22:22 PM
wtf!? where is normal work version of QT fro Mac OSX Mavericks? is it ok?? it not cool, it's really sad!

Do it guys, or you're fags!

Your slaves are here to serve you sir! you need to give them some more punishement these dirty fags aren't making the Mavericks wallet fast enough!

Seriously! if you want to ask for something, ask politely or leave, no one wants to deal with a disrepectful prick.
1960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 30, 2013, 12:36:19 AM
If you sell under 0.005 you are losing money 700 block till next difficulty (which is 2.5x the current one) or around 140ish
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