и вы за это готовы умирать и терпеть лишения, "аналитики" ?
Сам то чё не на передовой? Мобилизации уж третья волна, а тебя всё не накрыло. Косишь небось, али болезный?  |
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По одним методичкам работают.
Уж кто бы пиздел про методички. Отдельно охуеваю от полной творческой импотенции украинских нацистов - ну вот хуле бы хоть логотипы себе новые не нарисовать для Салорейха? Бессмысленный и беспощадный дроч на немецкую символику времён WW2, вплоть до Украiна убер аллес. Пародисты блять, весь торс в фашистских портаках и через одного с жидовской мордой. Гитлер поди в гробу там вертится от таких косплеев. |
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А между тем морпехи всу сдаются уже тысячами.
Да тихо ты, там сёдня перемога головного мозга в фазе обострения - отпизженного КУМА ПУТИНА из сундука СБУ достали. Щас обменяют его на всех пленных по схеме "один за всех и все за одного" и с новыми силами сразу в контратаку на Москву. А в авангарде мильён трофейных танков. |
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The ban on the export of food and fertilizer from Russia was introduced until August. But Syria and Egypt have nothing to worry about, the ban only applies to unfriendly countries, which do not include African countries. Russia will not allow a humanitarian crisis in Africa related to food shortages, because it knows how much many of the countries of the black continent depend on food supplies from Russia. Russian farmers invested heavily in the grains sector ever since 2014 and these sort of export bans can be self-defeating for them. African nations alone can't make up for all the shortfall in demand coming from Europe. BTW, the rise in food prices is impacting everyone. And it will have political consequences. Here in India, the ruling party is now facing a lot of criticism for failing to control the rising inflation rate. And even in the US, elections are due in less than 7 months, and the GOP seems to be in a position to wrest back the control of the senate. Small farmers are focused on the local domestic market, and large agricultural complexes are under state protection, so neither one nor the other will suffer from the ban on food exports. Plus, the ban is not complete, but only in order not to jeopardize the food security of Russia, therefore, through the decision of the government commission, exceptions are possible for friendly countries. After 2014, Russia made a huge breakthrough in this direction and instead of a food importer, it became a major exporter. The current ban was introduced until August, that is, before the harvest of a new crop, according to its results and depending on the development of the situation in Ukraine, it will be revised in August. Judging by your previous messages, you yourself know everything about fertilizers, without fertilizers from Russia, the harvest will be lower. Plus, the sowing campaign has already been disrupted in Ukraine and there will be no harvest there this year, at all. These are large shortfalls, and someone will have to compensate for them in order to avoid a humanitarian crisis with hunger. I would not worry too much about the lack of demand, food is not a luxury, but a first necessity. People all over the world have a strange irrational habit of eating breakfast, lunch and dinner - and so every day. There are rumors that there are Yogis in India who eat sunlight, but I do not know them personally. |
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Калибров заготовлено овердохуя, прям конкретно с запасом - на случай если НАТО не ссыкнёт и таки впишется за Украину. Откалибровать всю поляну не по разу хватит.
Тссс ... ! Пусть укро-нацики пребывают в приятных фантазих, что "Это-то точно у них был самый последний Калибр/Кинжал/Искандер!" Не расстраивай их и не обнадёживай несбыточными фантазиями! Да пора бы уже возвращаться на грешную землю, степень упоротости зашкаливает. Как вообще можно на серьёзных щас строить свои рассуждения на предположении, что у России могут закончиться ракеты? Там ещё с Сирии не потрачено и восемь лет вся оборонка арбайтен по-стахановски круглосуточно в три смены на фоне планового профицита бюджета и 100% выполнения гособоронзаказа. Дорого им блять Калибры делать, это экспортный кастрированный вариант для арабов и китайцев дорогой - и то за ними очередь из покупашек в три ряда. В Сирии была презентация, когда ими за тыщи километров с Каспия калибровали, а на Украине была презентация Кинжала, а Калибр уже теперь обычная рабочая лошадка. Без них весь Черноморский флот стоял бы как статист, типа угрожая десантом на Одессу, а щас там морячки работают как пчёлки. Калибр, Искандер и Х-101 (которую особо не пиарят т.к. у ней нет экспортного варианта) - на уровне регионального конфликта это реально работающие вундервафли с моря, с земли и с воздуха, которые Украине крыть просто нечем, аналогов нет. Кинжал это по сути Искандер воздушного базирования, который может в гиперзвук - демотиватор для авианосцев и бункерных стратегов НАТО. А не распизделся ли я тут и не пойти ли мне нахуй? |
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You insist on something you cannot possibly know, which proves you're full of shit.
I understand your feelings, everyone wants to think they are doing the right thing. It must be annoying to be in a situation of insight: "Hans, are we villains?" It's fun to watch this transformation: - There are no Nazis in Ukraine - Well, maybe there are some isolated cases - There may be more of them than I thought, but they are doing the right thing and fighting evil invaders --> you are here - Fuck, this is a solid Nazi viper, but the Russians are even worse - What kind of Minsk agreements, did the Russians really have a reason? - I'm going to commit suicide from an overdose of lard. |
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So you did not even bother to look at the links because, according to you, there's so much fakes that these are surely fake too.
I glanced over to see what I had already seen. This is tabloid shit for stupid degenerates and vanilla moms. Give me your number.
My answer is how much is needed. But even your first number will be a great success for Ukraine. |
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I see, only Russians know how to fight. Same source?
Do you have any doubts that Russian soldiers are good at fighting? Look on the map at your country and then at Russia. Therefore, again on his own and again on Russia. Then look at the population of Russia and the number of its regular army. Then ask yourself - how the hell with such a small population and army did they take so much land for themselves and not give it to anyone? Maybe you will have fewer doubts that Russian soldiers know how to fight well. The US generally has a different strategy - to fit an aircraft carrier and bomb from it for a month, then land ground troops and finish off the survivors under the rubble. If you need to act more subtle - to attract sabotage groups of special forces. With these tactics, the 500,000 dead children in Iraq are considered acceptable losses in the struggle for the triumph of democracy. Maybe the United States once knew how to fight, but they forgot how to do it a long time ago. sounds like bragging since it's not attributed to anyone else, and it would sound the same way in any language.
If it sounded like this, it's a problem with my English, sorry. I have been observing a lot of different sources of information since the beginning of the operation, but I am only actively doing something about this here on this forum. There is loyal moderation here and there is no noticeable numerical superiority of supporters of one side or another - a very rare combination, possibly unique. It would be wiser for me to just remain silent, and at first I did so - but some kind of way out is needed with such a volume of incoming information. In a sense, this is stress management in a rapidly changing world. |
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Основное преимущество вижу в ракетах, особенно дальнего действия и, отчасти, в авиации. Ракеты реально наносят вред украм. Но они имеют свойство заканчиваться, а производить новые долго и дорого. Очень дорого.
Калибров заготовлено овердохуя, прям конкретно с запасом - на случай если НАТО не ссыкнёт и таки впишется в движуху. Откалибровать всю поляну не по разу хватит. Я бы не стал питать здесь ложные надежды, насчёт их свойства заканчиваться. |
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why is no one telling that to putin? he completely doesn't see what he is doing in the middle east.
Don't teach Putin how to do business in the Middle East, better learn from him yourself. The Middle East respects strength and honesty, but without direct pressure. If you don't have power, you are nothing. If you cheated once, there will be no second chance. Say directly what you want, and show how it is beneficial to the other side. Have a reliable simple strategy and surprise with a variety of tactics. Make generous concessions on minor things, but bargain hard for your primary interest. The Middle East is a delicate matter. |
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Not sure if you're just trolling or seriously admitting that you're creating fakes to discredit Ukraine. Either way, nothing new really.
Of course I don't do it and I don't even comment, just watching. At first it was interesting - there are a lot of talented creative people from the cinema community in Zelensky's office. And the financial support of the information campaign is almost unlimited. They quickly ran out of steam, began to repeat themselves - for example, they pass off the same wrecked tanks as new victories in the second round in the hope of a short memory of the layman. They hoped for a blitzkrieg, but something went wrong. It turned out that you need to run not a sprint, but at least a half marathon - and these are two different approaches to the distribution of forces over a distance. (Sh)it happens. |
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But I think that now the European countries will be even worse. Who will really feel bad is them  I think you are right. The US is still a great country and has enough internal resources and external influence not to fly into the abyss. But it is necessary to bring a fatter sacrifice to the altar of the dollar, and apparently old Europe has been chosen as the victim. I think there will be a surge of hyperinflation* in the US and the EU, and the waves from such a big surge will pass around the world and many weak small economies will be torn to shreds. The hangover from 10+ years of continuous quantitative easing will be brutal. These are big tectonic changes in the world economic landscape and they are not sometime in the future, but right now. *Hyperinflation - inflation above 50%, it is better to ask Zimbabwe about the upper limit. |
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Russian soldiers do their best to minimize them, even if it increases the risks for themselves. I'm talking about the fact that the Russians never deliberately kill civilians, realizing that in front of them is a man without a weapon. I'll just quote it as a reminder that you're delusional and cannot be reasoned with. You're telling us that a family of 4 that was shot on the street on their way to the train station in broad daylight was armed and shooting at Russians. A 4 week old baby who travelled with parents and grandparents was shot at a Russian checkpoint along with all adults. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AABSm3Plr0Video captured by a civilian drone showed a motorist being shot by Russian soldiers near Kyiv after getting out of his car and putting his hands in the air. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/video-drone-man-shot-russians-near-kyiv-ukraine-war-latest-sqhrbtdrbDad, Please Don't Die!': Harrowing Video Captures Deadly Russian Attack On Ukrainian Father And Son https://www.rferl.org/a/father-son-attacked-russia-ukraine/31734834.htmlUkrainian officials and local residents have said the mayor of a small town, along with her husband and son, were executed by invading Russian forces that had until recently occupied the area. Mayor Olga Sukhenko and her family were shot and thrown into a pit in a forest behind a plot of land with several houses that the Russian forces then took over in the town of Motyzhyn, they said. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/olga-sukhenko-ukraine-mayor-russia-accused-killing-torture/Your lies are an affront to these murdered people and their families. My vagina almost grew from your tearful stories. You know, if there wasn’t such a powerful flow of falsely staged informational shit from the Ukrainian side, I might have tried to penetrate the content of your links a little more deeply to figure out what really happened there. Fortunately, I have access to Ukrainian telegram channels that coordinate the creation of an informational background for the gullible Western layman, and I know this cuisine well from the inside. Pot, don’t boil it - even in the West, it seems that no one really believes you anymore, because such a wild concentration of fakes is too much. Today we forced a photo of a crying girl next to the corpse of her murdered mother, very touching - although this is a frame from the movie "Brest Fortress" lol. Yesterday we forced a video where a tank shoots at point-blank range a group of Russian "pig-dogs" - although it quickly became clear that everyone was wearing blue armbands and this was friendly fire. Boring. I did not read it.
I do not care what it says. I care what Russians are doing on the ground, not what they say or sign.
Any agreements with Russia are not worth much.
Only total and absolute demilitarization of Russia will lead to long-lasting peace.
Anything else is just postponing the inevitable. Russia is on a collision course for a total destruction.
Why doesn't this surprise me anymore? The document is good, it is an excellent example of the high-quality diplomatic work of all the parties involved. And there is not even anything shameful or humiliating for Ukraine - not in a single point. It was a great chance for Ukraine to keep control of its borders, just stop shooting, give a little more local autonomy to Donbass and let it speak its native language in its native land. Everything! Ukraine could use methods of indirect political influence and in just a few years make Donbass loyal to Kiev again. It was so easy to do if you wanted peace, not war. Ukraine didn't even try! Zelensky did not even try, although he came to power on promises to end the war in the Donbass. For years they sabotaged the implementation of the Minsk agreements and prepared to deliver a decisive blow to the Donbass and Crimea. How can you be so stupid as to seriously prepare to attack Russia? I understand that you still think that Crimea is Ukraine, but since 2014 it has been officially part of Russia and the attack on Crimea is an attack on Russia. Is it really possible to be so idiotic as to believe in yourself SO much? Like, yes, the Third Reich failed to do this, but we will definitely succeed, are you serious? And a month later, run around knocking on all the thresholds, shouting "give us weapons, give us money, give us at least something." Some surrealism. |
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In Ukraine, the puppet government after the coup on the Maidan, and deliberately cultivate anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine
Russia does not need the love of Ukraine.
Well, if you post others' propaganda, at least pay attention to not contradict yourself. However, you have just proven yourself just another mindless troll that doesn't deserve the slightest attention. There is no contradiction here. I will explain with an example, imagine for a moment that some conditional country made a coup in Ireland, and then began to actively finance and supply weapons to the IRA, and cultivate hatred of Great Britain from the school bench in Ireland, releasing history books in which the British were portrayed Dirty bastards who need to be blown up, killed, and cut off their heads. Every year to hold mass demonstrations in the streets with crowds of masked militants. And to do this for 18 years, so that a whole generation of Irish people has grown up who consider the British people of the lower class. And then the leadership of Ireland would say out loud that it would be nice to get hold of a nuclear bomb. Sound wild? Meanwhile, this is exactly what happened in Ukraine. Do you think the English would care what to do so that the Irish were kindled with love for them? Would they have been trying for eight years to resolve this delicate issue through diplomacy, as Russia did? Let's be frank, the Anglo-Saxons are disliked in many places in the world, and there are reasons. But do they not care about it now, and do they care even more about it if it is a serious threat to the security of their country? ps You can ignore my messages if they seem to you a threat to your habitual patterns and stereotypes of perception. |
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And yeah, I am sure now Ukrainians will just love Putin and the Russians for killing and raping them. What alternate reality are you living in?!!?!
Russia does not need the love of Ukraine. The Nazi viper needs to have its venomous teeth pulled out so it can't bite, that's enough. |
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You do not deny that you support Putin's agenda and policies. I wonder what's your view on its so called military campaign in Ukraine.
This should have been done in 2014. |
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What about the Russian invasion? Was that part of the Minsk agreement?
I will ask this question to you too, have you read the text of the Minsk agreements? I ask it today for the third time to three different people here, and no one answered in essence, did no one read them? This is getting really interesting. That is, you don’t even have an idea about what the four parties consisting of Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France actually agreed on eight years ago - and the implementation of which Ukraine successfully sabotaged for eight years, which as a result led to the current invasion of Russia, which realized that its titanic efforts to resolve the issue peacefully is simply futile. I'm right, you didn't read it either? And yeah, I'm back (at least for some time)
I'm glad you're alive. Will you take a break from the defense and immediately launch a counter-offensive on Moscow? |
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Ok, let's assume you're right.
Then a couple of simple questions:
1. When did Ukraine officially decide to join NATO?
2. Before that, were there NATO countries bordering Russia? If so, do they pose a threat to Russia? And why is Ukraine more dangerous for Russia?
3. What happened before - the event of the annexation of the Crimea and part of the eastern regions, or Ukraine's statement about the desire to join NATO?
Okay, let's look at this story in terms of the chronology of events: 1994 February, Ukraine signed a framework agreement with NATO as part of the Partnership for Peace initiative
1995 to 2003 Ukraine and the United States annually conduct the Peace Shield exercise
1997 July, at the NATO summit in Madrid, the “Charter on a Distinctive Partnership between NATO and Ukraine” was signed.
1997 July, command and staff exercises "Cooperative Neighbor-1997" were held in Yavoriv
1997, Yeltsin and Kuchma signed an agreement on the presence of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation in Sevastopol for the next 20 years until 2017
1997 An agreement was signed between the Russian Federation and NATO on the non-deployment of NATO bases in the countries of Eastern Europe and the Baltic States of permanent bases.
1997 NATO Information and Documentation Center opened in Kyiv.
1998 a Ukrainian representative office appeared at NATO headquarters and a special military representative of Ukraine began work
1998 November, President Kuchma signed the "Program of cooperation between Ukraine and NATO for the period up to 2001"
1999 April, NATO mission opened in Kyiv.
1999 June, Ukraine supported the NATO operation in the Balkans.
1999 Ukraine-NATO summit
2000 for the first time in history, the annual meeting of NATO's main political body, the North Atlantic Council, was held in Kyiv, outside of NATO member countries,
2000 Ukraine and NATO signed the "Status of Forces Agreement"
In 2001, the training center of the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security was opened in Yavoriv, Lviv region.
2002 Ukraine-NATO summit
2002 Adopted the "Individual Partnership Plan with NATO".
2002 May, the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine adopted the NATO Strategy, which provided for the revision of the non-aligned status in favor of starting a process whose ultimate goal was to become a full-fledged NATO membership for Ukraine.
On July 2002, within the framework of the Partnership for Peace program, Ukraine and NATO signed a memorandum on Ukraine's support for NATO operations.
2002 November, The NATO-Ukraine Action Plan is adopted, the relationship is further strengthened, within the framework of this plan annual Ukraine-NATO Target Plans began to be developed.
In 2002, the exercises "Cooperative Adventure-2002" were held on the territory of Ukraine, which became the largest NATO exercises in the territory of the CIS countries.
Exercises with NATO have been held before. Subsequently, joint exercises with NATO became almost annual.
2003 Ukraine supported the US operation in Iraq by sending its "peacekeeping contingent" to the region[18].
2004 April, the Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on the free access of NATO forces to the territory of Ukraine.
June 2004, in the Military Doctrine of Ukraine, a provision appeared on Ukraine's policy of Euro-Atlantic integration, the ultimate goal of which was to join NATO.
2004 July, following a meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Commission, President Kuchma issued a decree stating that joining NATO was no longer the country's goal, only "a significant deepening of relations with NATO and the European Union as guarantors of security and stability in Europe" was needed.
2004 August, US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and Ukrainian President Kuchma meet in Crimea
2005 April, after the Orange "revolution" and Yushchenko came to power, a meeting of the "Ukraine-NATO" commission was held as part of an informal meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the NATO countries. Cooperation with NATO acquired the format of "Accelerated Dialogue", which was intended to be the first step towards Ukraine's entry into NATO.
2005 April, Yushchenko returned to the military doctrine of Ukraine the strategic goal of Ukraine - "full membership in NATO and the EU."
January 2006, in Budapest, following a meeting of NATO defense ministers and Ukrainian Defense Minister Hrytsenko, it was announced that these states were ready to support Ukraine's entry into NATO.
April 2006, at a meeting of NATO foreign ministers, the representative of the NATO Secretary General Appathurai said that all members of the alliance support the speedy integration of Ukraine into NATO. Russia, for its part, expressed concern about this development.
2006 September, after the government was headed by Prime Minister Yanukovych, there was a turn in Ukraine's foreign policy. Yanukovych's foreign policy statements contradicted Yushchenko's course.
2006 August, the press service of the new Ukrainian government announced that Ukraine was postponing the adoption of a "NATO membership action plan."
September 2006, Yanukovych paid a working visit to Brussels, where he made a statement about Ukraine's unpreparedness to join NATO.
2008 April, the US made significant efforts to convince its NATO allies of the need for Georgia and Ukraine to join the MAP at the alliance's Bucharest summit. This caused a complication of relations between Russia and NATO.
2008 there was a scandal, the reason for which was the statement of the NATO Secretary General that the organization had received a letter signed by the President of Ukraine, Prime Minister Tymoshenko and Parliament Speaker Yatsenyuk with a request to join Ukraine to the NATO Membership Action Plan.
2009 August, at NATO Headquarters, a Declaration was signed supplementing the Charter on a Distinctive Partnership.
2010 coming to power of Yanukovych. Non-bloc status has once again become a foreign policy priority for Ukraine. The law "On the fundamentals of domestic and foreign policy" was adopted
2010 April, Yanukovych liquidated the interdepartmental commission on preparing the country for NATO accession and the national center for Euro-Atlantic integration
April 2010, in Kharkov, Presidents Medvedev and Yanukovych signed an agreement to extend the stay of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol from 2017 to 2042. This caused indignation among the Ukrainian opposition and a brawl in the Verkhovna Rada.
2010 November, At the NATO summit, the former line on the involvement of Ukraine in the NATO Strategic Concept was consolidated
2013 February, Ukraine officially joined the NATO counter-piracy operation "Ocean Shield"
2013 November, Visit to Ukraine of the delegation of the NATO International Secretariat
2014 February, power changed in Ukraine
2014 February, visit of the delegation of the NATO Council
2014 March, Crimea was taken by Russia
2014 March, Ukrainian military delegation went to NATO Headquarters in Brussels to discuss "areas of strengthening cooperation" between Ukraine and NATO
2014 April, formation of the DNR and LNR
2014 April, a law was adopted on the admission of units of the armed forces of other states to the territory of Ukraine to participate in multinational exercises.
2014 from May to November, Ukraine is scheduled to participate in 15 NATO exercises
2014 NATO Secretary General Rasmussen at a meeting of alliance defense ministers in Brussels said that NATO remains "a sincere friend of Ukraine"
2014 December, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a bill introduced by President Poroshenko, which canceled the non-bloc status of Ukraine
2015 January, Visit of a NATO delegation to Ukraine to hold the 20th meeting of the NATO-Ukraine joint working group in Kyiv
2015 September, The military doctrine was adopted, the priority task is "deepening cooperation with NATO and achieving full compatibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the armies of NATO member countries by 2020."
2016 July, At the NATO summit, Russia was recognized as the main security threat to the alliance, and its containment was officially proclaimed the new NATO mission
2017 June, the Verkhovna Rada enshrined at the legislative level: NATO membership is one of Ukraine's foreign policy priorities
2017 July, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg opened a new organization office in Kyiv
March 2018, Ukraine received the status of a NATO postgraduate country. Poroshenko asked for a NATO membership action plan to be provided to his country.
2018 July, President Poroshenko signed the law "On the National Security of Ukraine", which will help achieve defense compatibility with NATO countries.
2018 July, in Brussels, within the framework of the NATO summit, a meeting was held in the Ukraine-Georgia-NATO format
In 2019, constitutional amendments came into force, fixing the strategic course for obtaining full membership of Ukraine in the European Union and NATO at the level of a constitutional norm
September 2019, in New York, Zelensky met with NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg.
2019 October, the NATO Council and the Secretary General of the Stoltenberg Alliance visited Ukraine
2020 June, NATO granted Ukraine Enhanced Opportunities Partner status
2021 Ukraine held eight joint exercises with NATO countries
in June 2021, NATO leaders reaffirmed the decision of the 2008 Bucharest summit that Ukraine would be granted a NATO Membership Action Plan
2021 November, a meeting of the Foreign Ministers of NATO countries was held in Riga, to which the Foreign Ministers of Ukraine and Georgia were invited
2021 December, the Russian Foreign Ministry published draft agreements with the United States and NATO countries on ensuring the security of Russia and the alliance member countries. Namely, to legally consolidate NATO's refusal to further expand to the east and join the alliance of Ukraine. Kyiv considers such demands unacceptable.
2021 December, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg rejected Moscow's demands.
10 exercises with NATO members planned for 2022
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Is it logical?
No. While I don't support harassing ordinary Russians, there is a huge difference between someone being oppressed and unable to elect their government, and someone who openly and deliberately supports Putin's fascist Z-regime, such as yourself. It's funny how Putinists adopted the "cancel culture" meme, which is really a snowflake's way of saying "why can't I make everyone shut up and not point out all the false shit I'm peddling". I am not so selfish as to ask the West for any preferences for myself. But what the hell is Gagarin guilty of, that they are trying to erase him from history as the first man in space? Or is it Tchaikovsky's fault that his works are removed from the repertoire of European orchestras? Or what is the fault of the ethnic Germans from Kazakhstan, who emigrated a long time ago to Germany and are now being accused of being allegedly Russian? It really comes to such an absurdity. |
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Let's go even further, shall we? year 2000. I am on business in Donetsk. By the way, in this city at that time 30-40% spoke Ukrainian. And in the evening, in one of the establishments, I observe a picture - 10-12 people are sitting at the table, actively gesticulating, raising toasts very loudly and not very culturally. And there is a flag on the wall. At first I thought that this was a flag of something like the Yuzovsky Manufactory or something similar (John Yuz is, in fact, the "father" of Donetsk and the Donetsk region, their founder, a British). It turned out not. It turned out that this is the flag ... of the Donetsk People's Republic! Yes, yes, yes - it was 2000, 4 years before "the anti-Russian pumping began." I decided to clarify, and it turned out that since the 1990s, in the east of Ukraine, the anti-Ukrainian movement "DPR" and several others, united by the idea of "Novorossiya", have been actively gaining strength, with the support of curators from ... no, not the United States, but Russia, those. anti-Ukrainian, anti-state, separatist concept. Would you like to read their documentation, goals, etc.? I highly recommend it - it's a mix of Nazism, nationalism, chauvinism. And now you tell us about "the United States began purposefully cultivating anti-Russian sentiments in Ukraine back in 2004 with Yushchenko coming to power," specific actions, laws, and other facts? Looking forward to your stories about Yushchenko, the US and anti-Russian sentiment  Do not pull the owl on the globe. Donbass has always been and felt itself not just Russian-speaking, but Russian - and from the point of view of Western Ukraine, they were second-class people. But they lived quite calmly as part of Ukraine and dug their own coal, honestly earning their living, until the Ukrainian authorities forbade them to speak Russian, their native language. This was a trigger and a match in the fire of separatist sentiments. You can't blame people for wanting to speak and think in their native language. |
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