Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[tvbcof]

Zelensky is confuse of which is his priorities. If he wants to continue to play hero for the NATO, he can go on with the war. But if he wants to be a hero for the Ukrainians, lets top the war and lets provide a better place of the Ukrainians and not completely drive them away form their own country.  Stop watching people dying out of hunger.

If Zelensky (or more aptly, his sponsor Kolomoyskyi) wants to be a hero to his tribe, he could carry on with clearing out the Slavs to help set up for a New (and Better) Israel.  Closer to home, too, if one buys the '13th tribe' Khazar hypothesis or notices where most of the Ashkanazi Israelis came from.  Anyway, they couldn't do it without the able assistance of Russia of course.

I've heard that so far 'nearly 6 million Ukrainians' have fled as refugees heading to elsewhere, and Russia has a long way to go to shove the non-Noahide-capable people up into the far West in the (current) bordered areas or outside the borders completely.  That '6-million' figure tends to be 'sticky' in that part of the world somehow, but I expect that it will be blasted through shortly.  Even if the 'refugee' count stands still from here (highly unlikely) it is a pretty significant portion of the total population of (current) Ukraine.

Another big batch of refugees could be just what the doctor ordered in the project(s) of sinking target countries (esp, the U.S.) and there are some choice specimens for export as evidenced by the swastika tattoos.  Proverbial 'mixed multitude.'

For a while now it has struck me that 'the Jews' seem to WANT to be blamed for the vaccine catastrophe among other upcoming crises such as the currency collapse, famine, etc.  It's actually not to difficult to understand why, or to see some historical precedents and philosophical matches; if 'the Jews' are 'chased out' of one place they will pop up in another.  It's happened a lot through history.  For the hard-of-thinking, my suggestion is that the design is for that place to be 'New Israel' where a big chunk of the Ukraine now sits.

As for 'old Israel', it was never much of a thing to the Khazars who's religious family tree has roots sprouting from Babylon.  The Sephardim and assorted other crackpot fanatics will probably be left behind to fend for themselves and 'fulfill biblical prophecy.'

I'd also note that if any society even comes close to achieving a 'new normal' which is as Zelensky was crowing about several months ago, it won't even matter if there are die-hard nazis peppering a society.  Everyone of every stripe will be completely immobilized and 'crime' will be a thing of the past.  China led the way here, and are demonstrating how easy it is to control a starving city of 25,000,000 from a set of keyboards and some cloud infrastructure to run simulations and monitor things.

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It's been 2 months since the Russian invasion, despite Ukraine's resistance, war maps show that Putin is actually gaining ground, especially after the fall of Mariupol, and the military advances in the Donbas region, while they are extremely close to Kharkiv. On top of that, Odesa is certainly their next target, since its prime location, which would block Ukraine's access to the sea.

Certainly, Putin didn't win the war within a few days, just like he expected, however, things have taken a turn for the worse, mourning thousands of casualties.

I think that Nikolaev, Kharkov and Odessa are now facing a difficult choice - to repeat the fate of Kherson or Mariupol. Both cities are now under Russian control, but Kherson was taken almost without resistance, and Mariupol with heavy urban fighting. From the point of view of access to the sea, in my opinion, Nikolaev is even more important than Odessa (and both of them are not as important as Mariupol), but Russia has a personal score with Odessa for the incident in the House of Trade Unions.

It is very difficult to predict which direction Russia has a higher priority now - to close the boiler in the Donbas for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in eastern Ukraine, or to connect with Russian peacekeepers in Transnistria in southern Ukraine. The Russian General Staff is reluctant to voice its plans.

Meanwhile, the Guardian published an article with the results of the work of forensic experts, who found that "dozens" of Bucha residents from mass graves were killed by small darts from artillery shrapnel shells. The general tone of the article is still anti-Russian (it would be strange to expect otherwise from the Guardian), but the results of the examination make one wonder - for example, how the Russians could fire artillery at the city, which they themselves held at the time.

[Tash]

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Don't you think Ukraine should be able to decide which alliance they join?

They can join whatever alliance they want once the breakaway republics have broken away.
Or are you of the opinion people can not break away and have a free choice?


Luhansk and Donetsk already independend


Yugoslavia 2.0 very much

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Yugoslavia 2.0 very much

I think the ambitions to take the South of Ukraine are not the main, but the accompanying goal of Russia in this operation. Moreover, it appeared already during the operation due to the unwillingness of Ukraine to voluntarily lay down its arms. The stronger and longer Ukraine resists, the worse the terms of the peace agreement will be for it. Russia does not need a truce for 10-15-20 years, in order to then again step on the same Ukrainian rake. Putin will not repeat Khrushchev's mistake in rehabilitating Bandera in the 1950s.

[Tash]

Yugoslavia 2.0 very much

I think the ambitions to take the South of Ukraine are not the main, but the accompanying goal of Russia in this operation. Moreover, it appeared already during the operation due to the unwillingness of Ukraine to voluntarily lay down its arms. The stronger and longer Ukraine resists, the worse the terms of the peace agreement will be for it. Russia does not need a truce for 10-15-20 years, in order to then again step on the same Ukrainian rake. Putin will not repeat Khrushchev's mistake in rehabilitating Bandera in the 1950s.

Melitopol (Zaporizhzhia Oblast) inhabitants asking Russian soldiers not to leave because they fear Ukrainian Nazis and what happend at Bucha
https://parler.com/feed/69c31671-e331-4b1c-a52a-67f49b154145

[cryptomaxsun]

Yugoslavia 2.0 very much

I think the ambitions to take the South of Ukraine are not the main, but the accompanying goal of Russia in this operation. Moreover, it appeared already during the operation due to the unwillingness of Ukraine to voluntarily lay down its arms. The stronger and longer Ukraine resists, the worse the terms of the peace agreement will be for it. Russia does not need a truce for 10-15-20 years, in order to then again step on the same Ukrainian rake. Putin will not repeat Khrushchev's mistake in rehabilitating Bandera in the 1950s.

Melitopol (Zaporizhzhia Oblast) inhabitants asking Russian soldiers not to leave because they fear Ukrainian Nazis and what happend at Bucha
https://parler.com/feed/69c31671-e331-4b1c-a52a-67f49b154145

You are lying, as always.
Here are some videos with residents of Melitopol.

Residents of Melitopol meet Russian Nazis
https://youtu.be/NMG3whbQygo

Protest action in temporarily occupied Melitopol
https://youtu.be/eFi191_FC0Q

[be.open]

You are lying, as always.
Here are some videos with residents of Melitopol.

Residents of Melitopol meet Russian Nazis
https://youtu.be/NMG3whbQygo

Protest action in temporarily occupied Melitopol
https://youtu.be/eFi191_FC0Q

It is curious that the protest action is openly taking place in the city occupied by the Russians and no one seems to be shooting at them. And there are more people in the queues for Russian humanitarian aid than at these rallies. This video is more than a month and a half old, since then the mood in Melitopol seems to have changed to a more pro-Russian one.

The problem is not that you are being lied to. Your problem is that you are deceiving yourself.

[paxmao]

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Don't you think Ukraine should be able to decide which alliance they join?

They can join whatever alliance they want once the breakaway republics have broken away.
Or are you of the opinion people can not break away and have a free choice?
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On the contrary they have a free choice. Free means that you do not have Putin's army shelling your cities. Unless you are of the opinion that someone pointing a gun to your head is being free (which you might, given your posting history).

If Putin were there to "give people choice" why does he not celebrate a referendums in peace and with international observers and let the press speak freely and allow opposition candidates out of jail. I mean, those that he did not kill already for speaking in public about him.. And that too in Georgia, Syria.

Putin is not "freeing" anyone, he wants all under his thumb. You may not understand this, but other people do not accept this without fighting.

It's been 2 months since the Russian invasion, despite Ukraine's resistance, war maps show that Putin is actually gaining ground, especially after the fall of Mariupol, ...

I think that Nikolaev, Kharkov and Odessa are now facing a difficult choice...

The decision is not difficult: I someone tries to take your home, you resist. You have been living under a despot for so long that you think is a difficult decision. You have lost your will to be free, even perhaps convincing yourself that is better this way so that you do not have to do anything risky. Chairborne totally.

Mariupol still has not fallen and even Putin recognised it in his farcical appearance with his chief psycho, while holding the table as if it was to run away from him.

It is very difficult to predict which direction Russia has a higher priority now ...

No is not. The gas and iron ore and industry of the Donbas. Encircling the Ukranian army south of Izum, taking Mariupol and, if they observe weakness, trying a push for Odessa.

But politically, trying to present some short of  victory by May 9th and hiding the losses to the people of Russia.

Meanwhile, the Guardian published an article with the results of the work of forensic experts, who found that "dozens" of Bucha residents from mass graves were killed by small darts from artillery shrapnel shells.

From the article:

Dozens of civilians who died during the Russian occupation of the Ukrainian city of Bucha were killed by tiny metal arrows from shells of a type fired by Russian artillery, forensic doctors have said
...
According to a number of witnesses in Bucha, fléchette rounds were fired by Russian artillery a few days before forces withdrew from the area at the end of March.

“It is very hard to find those in the body, they are too thin.

According to Neil Gibson, a weapons expert at the UK-based Fenix Insight group, who has reviewed the photos of the fléchettes found in Bucha, the metal darts came from a 122mm 3Sh1 artillery round, in use by Russian artillery.

There are 8000 of this "flechettes" in a shell. There is only one possible use for it when fired on a civilian area.

More countries that need "referendums" according to your theories:

Switzerland


Belgium



I think we should actually start holding elections and referendums in Russia according to this map:



Right now a distant possibility - a not that unlikely case once Putin's army is proven no longer able to hold the regional power status - the "superpower" status is long gone.

[TwitchySeal]

You are lying, as always.
Here are some videos with residents of Melitopol.

Residents of Melitopol meet Russian Nazis
https://youtu.be/NMG3whbQygo

Protest action in temporarily occupied Melitopol
https://youtu.be/eFi191_FC0Q

It is curious that the protest action is openly taking place in the city occupied by the Russians and no one seems to be shooting at them. And there are more people in the queues for Russian humanitarian aid than at these rallies. This video is more than a month and a half old, since then the mood in Melitopol seems to have changed to a more pro-Russian one.

The problem is not that you are being lied to. Your problem is that you are deceiving yourself.

Not really that curious.  The videos are from early March, before Russia realized what they were getting themselves into.

The problem is that you're being lied to, and also deceiving yourself.

[coolcoinz]

Unlike the alleged helicopter attack in Belgorod a few weeks ago, this is much deeper in Russian territory (~15 miles vs ~70 miles).

It's not a Ukrainian attack, stop posting propaganda. This is a normal fire that happens from time to time in oil depots. Most likely this time it was human error. Oil is very flammable and tends to cause problems from time to time. Brave Russian firefighters are dealing with it.

[paxmao]

Unlike the alleged helicopter attack in Belgorod a few weeks ago, this is much deeper in Russian territory (~15 miles vs ~70 miles).

It's not a Ukrainian attack, stop posting propaganda. This is a normal fire that happens from time to time in oil depots. Most likely this time it was human error. Oil is very flammable and tends to cause problems from time to time. Brave Russian firefighters are dealing with it.

Of course, it is not due to any Ukrainian action... is just that fuel depots tend to burn spontaneously. Maybe all the personnel was on leave and they sent there a Putin's cousin to operate the facilities. And the research centres in Moscow are not sabotage - you see Ukraine neither denies nor confirms, so it is all right... you are safe. Sleep tight. Nobody is going to get hurt tonight.

Repeat with me: "I am safe in Putin's Russia, I am safe in Putin's Russia, I am safe in Putin's Russia..."

[TwitchySeal]

Who did they join before NATO?
If there were no military conflict during that time, they should stick to it to avoid war since they are no position to win. There were disputes between the two countries but it didn't end in war.

They were a part of the Budapest Memorandum in the 90s: Russia, the UK and America agreed to protect Ukraine and a few other countries in the region in exchange for giving up their nuclear weapons.

If there were no military conflict during that time, they should stick to it to avoid war since they are no position to win. There were disputes between the two countries but it didn't end in war.

They've been in a military conflict since Russia took Crimea 8 years ago.  There have been more than 10,000 deaths from then until Feb 24, 2022.

[Branko]

There are 8000 of this "flechettes" in a shell. There is only one possible use for it when fired on a civilian area.

It is still strange using those on area you keep occupied...bullet is simpler, cheaper, and harder
to find out who killed them, but Russians seems to insist to kill civilians with weapons that
can only be traced to Russia. Stupid Russians. And if missed slightly, they could kill their own troops

[be.open]

It is very difficult to predict which direction Russia has a higher priority now ...

No is not. The gas and iron ore and industry of the Donbas. Encircling the Ukranian army south of Izum, taking Mariupol and, if they observe weakness, trying a push for Odessa.

It is difficult to say that Russia’s advance in the Donbas is very slow, because there Russia is opposed by the most combat-ready grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is very well entrenched there. There seem to be more Terodefense militias in the south, who are now having a very hard time against the regular army. On the other hand, armored vehicles with the letter O from the central military district are increasingly visible in the front-line chronicle, and the letters V  and Z now look like rotations or regroupings. Shelling in the Donbass is more like "harassing" fire to prevent the Armed Forces from regrouping than to prepare for a decisive offensive.

There are 8000 of this "flechettes" in a shell. There is only one possible use for it when fired on a civilian area.

It is still strange using those on area you keep occupied...bullet is simpler, cheaper, and harder
to find out who killed them, but Russians seems to insist to kill civilians with weapons that
can only be traced to Russia. Stupid Russians. And if missed slightly, they could kill their won troops

Theoretically, both sides of the conflict have the opportunity to use such ammunition. The Armed Forces of Ukraine used them during the siege of Slavyansk in 2015. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not hide the fact that they carried out artillery shelling of Bucha at a time when it was occupied by Russian troops.

I met on the net the opinion that the UK is thus blackmailing Zelensky so that he continues to escalate the conflict. In general, it is strange that the English newspaper discloses the details of the forensic medical examination before the end of the investigation, especially if it does not fit with the original version of the Ukrainian side.

Mariupol still has not fallen and even Putin recognised it in his farcical appearance with his chief psycho, while holding the table as if it was to run away from him.

Are you seriously?

I am especially amused by your ability to diagnose Putin by his hand on the edge of the table, while Biden regularly shakes hands with the void.

[paxmao]

It is very difficult to predict which direction Russia has a higher priority now ...

No is not. The gas and iron ore and industry of the Donbas. Encircling the Ukranian army south of Izum, taking Mariupol and, if they observe weakness, trying a push for Odessa.

It is difficult to say that Russia’s advance in the Donbas is very slow, because there Russia is opposed by the most combat-ready grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is very well entrenched there. There seem to be more Terodefense militias in the south, who are now having a very hard time against the regular army. On the other hand, armored vehicles with the letter O from the central military district are increasingly visible in the front-line chronicle, and the letters V  and Z now look like rotations or regroupings. Shelling in the Donbass is more like "harassing" fire to prevent the Armed Forces from regrouping than to prepare for a decisive offensive.

There are 8000 of this "flechettes" in a shell. There is only one possible use for it when fired on a civilian area.

It is still strange using those on area you keep occupied...bullet is simpler, cheaper, and harder
to find out who killed them, but Russians seems to insist to kill civilians with weapons that
can only be traced to Russia. Stupid Russians. And if missed slightly, they could kill their won troops

Theoretically, both sides of the conflict have the opportunity to use such ammunition. The Armed Forces of Ukraine used them during the siege of Slavyansk in 2015. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not hide the fact that they carried out artillery shelling of Bucha at a time when it was occupied by Russian troops.

I met on the net the opinion that the UK is thus blackmailing Zelensky so that he continues to escalate the conflict. In general, it is strange that the English newspaper discloses the details of the forensic medical examination before the end of the investigation, especially if it does not fit with the original version of the Ukrainian side.

Mariupol still has not fallen and even Putin recognised it in his farcical appearance with his chief psycho, while holding the table as if it was to run away from him.

Are you seriously?

I am especially amused by your ability to diagnose Putin by his hand on the edge of the table, while Biden regularly shakes hands with the void.

The "flechettes" have not used by Ukraine and they did not have any opportunity to use them. That is fake information aimed to created doubt. The facts are very clear, the dates are very clear, the testimonies are clear. There is no shadow of doubt of Putin's Psychos using it on civilians.

Biden is outdated, but has relatively efficient people around and listens to them - you may not like his politics, but there is a technocratic machine around him. And the best thing - US citizens can vote against him if they choose to do so.

Putin is trying to be in charge or pretending to be and his courtiers are "loyal" as in Mafia loyal, but unable to tell the truth nor achieve other than the killing of Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians. Putin appears to be holding the desk and crouching in the chair ridiculously. That guy is on meds and it is not Aspirins.

The UK is forcing the war now?? Try retreating from Ukraine, that is most likely to end any "blackmailing".

There are 8000 of this "flechettes" in a shell. There is only one possible use for it when fired on a civilian area.

It is still strange using those on area you keep occupied...bullet is simpler, cheaper, and harder
to find out who killed them, but Russians seems to insist to kill civilians with weapons that
can only be traced to Russia. Stupid Russians. And if missed slightly, they could kill their won troops

No, bullets are not cheaper when you are aiming for mass killings and you need to get close to the target to use them. The Nazi psychos, similarly to Putin's psychos, decide on more "efficient" methods.

[suchmoon]

Unlike the alleged helicopter attack in Belgorod a few weeks ago, this is much deeper in Russian territory (~15 miles vs ~70 miles).

It's not a Ukrainian attack, stop posting propaganda. This is a normal fire that happens from time to time in oil depots. Most likely this time it was human error. Oil is very flammable and tends to cause problems from time to time. Brave Russian firefighters are dealing with it.

I know you're being facetious, but I was hanging out in some Russian TG channels this morning and it's a bit of a mess there...

"When is Putin finally going to start a real war?"
"This can't be Ukraine, this is NATO attacking us"
"Why didn't they appreciate our good will gesture (retreat from Kyiv)"
"Let's nuke Kyiv"
"Let's nuke Poland"
"Mobilization" (ok, that one is just Girkin)

[paxmao]

Unlike the alleged helicopter attack in Belgorod a few weeks ago, this is much deeper in Russian territory (~15 miles vs ~70 miles).

It's not a Ukrainian attack, stop posting propaganda. This is a normal fire that happens from time to time in oil depots. Most likely this time it was human error. Oil is very flammable and tends to cause problems from time to time. Brave Russian firefighters are dealing with it.

I know you're being facetious, but I was hanging out in some Russian TG channels this morning and it's a bit of a mess there...

"When is Putin finally going to start a real war?"
"This can't be Ukraine, this is NATO attacking us"
"Why didn't they appreciate our good will gesture (retreat from Kyiv)"
"Let's nuke Kyiv"
"Let's nuke Poland"
"Mobilization" (ok, that one is just Girkin)

There is also a constant mention of the nuclear arsenal in Putin's controlled media "debates". Poland, Germany,... and then a "test" of Satan II in the middle of a war. The message to the population is clear: You are part of a strong country that can destroy others. You are safe, we will win and nothing bad can happen to you.

Is that working? Well, even the dumbest of the Russians does understand that once you use nuclear weapons, you can be certain to get hit back. I would be fucking scared to hear to official sources talking over and over about nuclear strikes. Particularly if I were living in Moscow, perhaps even St Petersburg with the right wind and weather. Perhaps the first strike would be in Belarus, depending on the target hit by Russia.

Please, do not think that I am talking theoretically about this. That comes from known results from "wargames" exercises by the Pentagon and NATO desk-based exercises.
 

[Branko]

No, bullets are not cheaper when you are aiming for mass killings and you need to get close to the target to use them. The Nazi psychos, similarly to Putin's psychos, decide on more "efficient" methods.

You weren't paying attention...we were talking about Bucha during time Russia kept it occupied

[paxmao]

No, bullets are not cheaper when you are aiming for mass killings and you need to get close to the target to use them. The Nazi psychos, similarly to Putin's psychos, decide on more "efficient" methods.

You weren't paying attention...we were talking about Bucha during time Russia kept it occupied

I answered to this. You quote me on the topic of flechettes, I answer to that. But, to be honest, I was also not paying much attention either.

There are 8000 of this "flechettes" in a shell. There is only one possible use for it when fired on a civilian area.

It is still strange using those on area you keep occupied...bullet is simpler, cheaper, and harder
to find out who killed them, but Russians seems to insist to kill civilians with weapons that
can only be traced to Russia. Stupid Russians. And if missed slightly, they could kill their own troops

[Toughit]

Ah, the beginning of the end of Russia.

Two military related buildings near Moscow with 'faulty wiring' burned down.

Its on Twitter, so its real.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1517172233629626368

Two yesterday, further down it says a third is burning today.

The revolution in Russian is gathering steam, more targets are now under flame....

We witness history, the final disintegration of russia.

https://twitter.com/spook_info/status/1518428523484098560