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1561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 10, 2022, 12:39:53 PM
The matter is still the same, the RF is not only showing disrespect for PoWs, they are even making a point of killing them in public. What can you expect if you are an RF captured soldier and there are no officers present?
You've got it all mixed up again. The trial of the mercenaries took place in the DPR, from the point of view of Russia it is an independent state, from the point of view of Ukraine it is the Donetsk region within Ukraine. Putin is a powerful man, but he has no power over the Supreme Court of a sovereign state (he doesn't even have power over Russia's Supreme Court).
1562  Economy / Economics / Re: Unusual Situation as Russia’s Ruble bounces back as world best per fiat currency on: June 10, 2022, 10:49:02 AM
EDIT: Yes, Russia limited by law the amount of RUB to USD you can exchange: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/03/08/ruble-dollar-exchange-barred/
This is a very old article from the beginning of March, the information in it is not up to date at the moment. Today, Putin canceled the mandatory sale of foreign exchange earnings for exporters, yesterday the Central Bank of Russia increased the export limit from $50,000 to $150,000. Russia is trying in every possible way to weaken the rapidly strengthening ruble, because it is unprofitable with a large positive trade balance. So far, it is not working out very well, apparently the Central Bank will again reduce the key rate in the near future.
Well, today the Central Bank of Russia lowered the key rate from 11 to 9.5%, let's see how effective this measure will be in order to stop the further strengthening of the ruble.
1563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 10, 2022, 10:19:11 AM
This is pretty much what I expected to read from you. Adolf Putin's government  killing POW = justice. If Ukraine defence army ever thinks of doing the same = Terrorism / crimes. This type of bullshit fits well on the RF controlled media, but people here can tell a troll.
There is some difference between the torture and murder of Russian prisoners without trial and investigation, and between the trial of foreign mercenaries. If you don't see it or refuse to see it, that says a lot about you.

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At the end of March, an international scandal erupted when many mainstream media published shocking videos of the torture and execution of Russian prisoners of war. A little later, in early April, Kyiv refused to comply with the Geneva Convention in relation to Russian prisoners of war. You have a very short and selective memory if you don't remember it.

The Geneva convention you say... so Ukraine has to comply with it but...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-warcrimes-convention-idUSKBN1WW2IN

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Russia's Putin revokes Geneva convention protocol on war crimes victims

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-22/explainer-how-could-ru

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The International Criminal Court's chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, said this month he had opened an investigation into possible war crimes in Ukraine. Neither Russia nor Ukraine is a member of the ICC and Moscow does not recognize the tribunal.

This is very simple: you can expect the same chivalry you offer.

I did not argue that Ukraine should comply with the Geneva Convention in relation to the prisoners. LTU_btc claimed that Ukraine follows the Geneva Convention, but this is not true - that's what I said. Don't overdo it, it's not pretty.

As for the International Criminal Court, that's bullshit. Russia does not recognize this organization, as well as, for example, the United States.
1564  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 10, 2022, 09:50:28 AM
BTW, these POWs were members of the Ukrainian Army. You draw your own conclusions.
Yeah, they were regular membrers of Ukrainian army and they're Ukrainian citizens.
This is not true or not entirely true. Two citizens of Great Britain and one citizen of Morocco were convicted. As far as I know, the Englishman Sean Pinner is married to a Ukrainian, but this does not automatically make him a Ukrainian.

Russian soldiers have no illusions, they know what awaits them in Ukrainian captivity.
What exactly? I just remind that there is no death sentence in Ukraine, unlike in so called DPR. So, worst what can happen is life imprisonmet or more likely exchsnge with Ukrainian POW's. Ukraine, is following Geneva convention, unlike so called DPR or Russia.
At the end of March, an international scandal erupted when many mainstream media published shocking videos of the torture and execution of Russian prisoners of war. A little later, in early April, Kyiv refused to comply with the Geneva Convention in relation to Russian prisoners of war. You have a very short and selective memory if you don't remember it.
1565  Economy / Economics / Re: Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe? on: June 10, 2022, 08:59:00 AM

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

It's like in court, the words of a recidivist criminal who denies his guilt, to be taken as the truth! Smiley

"Today, we are proud and happy to announce that ... the first railway cars with grain from the Melitopol elevator went to the direction of the Crimea"
The air of the TV channel Crimea-24. You can watch it online, in your own language Smiley
I am not interested in the opinion of the UN representative. The UN, the Red Cross, and many other international organizations have completely discredited themselves. And facts are facts! Moreover, not only grain is stolen, but metal is also massively stolen and exported to the Russian Federation. I will not talk about bipedal marauders, from gangs that are called the Russian army, who steal used underwear, dishes, beds and more. In Russia, stealing is not a crime, it is a folk tradition! Smiley

By the way - where is the official document, the UN resolution for example, about the fact that Russia is not a thief? Not ? And the facts that the thief-there is! Especially if they write about it themselves Smiley

I suggest everyone evaluate the news from the Russian media Smiley

https://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2022/06/07/17889902.shtml

https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/629f96e89a794739cb9c9fbe

https://www.interfax.ru/world/845178

Let me remind you that in 2014, Ukrainian drilling gas rigs in the Ukrainian waters of the Black Sea were seized and assigned to Russia (stolen) ... Forgotten? To clarify - the Glubokaya field is located on the Prykerch shelf of the Black Sea, in the exclusive marine economic zone of Ukraine

PS Russia is the only country in the world where they proudly report that they have stolen ....
Melitopol is located in the Zaporozhye region and you habitually think that this is Ukraine. However, it's time to get used to the new reality, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions are Russia. Donetsk and Lugansk regions are independent people's republics of Donbass. All your accusations of stealing Ukrainian grain are baseless insinuations.
1566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 10, 2022, 07:25:08 AM
Let's not forget Russia did not send Kamikaze passenger planes into these buildings, but rockets, which cause a totally different type of destruction.
The nature of the destruction from Russian sea- and air-launched missiles used in Ukraine is fairly well known. Most likely, the photographs show traces of destruction from downed Russian missiles, for which we must thank the Ukrainian missile defense system.

Deny, give fake info, repeat all common places about the RF capabilities... RF does not have enough precision weapons to wage this war, nor they care much about the civilian damages. You are bot repeating official propaganda over and over despite massive evidence of how the Psychos that direct the RF army specifically using tactics that destroy cities without any sense. Seen in Aleppo, seen in Mariupol and seen anywhere the orcs set foot.

Even the most stupid of Adolf Putin's orc followers knows that the RF army is just a cheese grinder that can't tell their own mouth from their ass when shelling.
Yes, yes, I remember that Russia's missiles were supposed to end in mid-March. But for some reason they don't end. Mostly sea-based Kalibr missiles and X101 air-launched cruise missiles work at military infrastructure facilities in Ukraine, land-based Iskander missiles are used less frequently. Each such rocket contains approximately 400 kg of explosives in TNT equivalent. I think in six months or a year after the start of this operation, you will also gradually learn to understand Russian weapons.
1567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?! on: June 10, 2022, 06:34:27 AM
Really depends on what Putin is able to sell as a win domestically. There's a lot of Russian losses, sure, but Ukranians are hurting too, and Putin's territorial gains in the East are non-trivial. If the Donbas is secured + a land corridor to Crimea, and he can get some kind of negotiated promise of Ukranian neutrality re: joining NATO, then that might be enough to sell domestically as a win.

Remember, Russians have historically tolerated leaders that have racked up high domestic body counts, but have been less tolerant of leaders perceived as weak. Hence, Putin's survival lies in being able to spin a tale of victory.

That would work with the French or Germans, but it will never work with Ukrainians.

Even if he would manage to control these territories today, Russians will be dying for the foreseeable future, until Ukraine gets its territories back. No matter if it takes 2, 5, 10, or 40 years. Russians will be defeated in those territories. Too many atrocities were committed by the Russian soldiers in Ukraine. There will be no going back to pre-2022 relations with Russia.

People who think some sort of territorial succession can be achieved, do not understand Ukrainians, their nationalism, and what exactly happened in Ukraine.

Just the same, the nationalism of Ukrainians is very well understood, which is why this operation of demilitarization and denazification is being carried out. In the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, the queue is a month ahead for obtaining Russian citizenship. In September, children in the liberated territories will go to school and follow the Russian curriculum, including the Russian anthem and the hoisting of the Russian flag every morning. I think after 20 years of continuous efforts, only vague memories will remain of Ukrainian nationalism.
1568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 10, 2022, 03:53:55 AM
Do not complaint after for the payback. Killing a POW by deciding that he is a "terrorist" calls for equal terms for the captured RF orcs. Not that you care about them, I know, I am just saying this for those who may be considering joining the RF army.
Exactly, this is payback - for the murders and torture of Russian prisoners of war who were captured by Ukrainians.

Just so that I am clear: Anyone joining the RF army must know that their government is executing POWs and that is likely to end badly for any RF soldier captured.
Russian soldiers have no illusions, they know what awaits them in Ukrainian captivity.

Pretty hypocritical considering the Nazi Wagner group, which isn't part of the official Russian military, has been deployed to fight in Ukraine.
The mercenaries of the Wagner Group also have no illusions. They know what awaits them in Ukrainian captivity.

BTW, these POWs were members of the Ukrainian Army. You draw your own conclusions.
Don't worry so much. They have been covered enough in the media space to count on a pardon from the President of the Donetsk People's Republic or on an exchange for a Russian soldier who was sentenced in Kyiv to life imprisonment for the murder of a civilian. I also want to note that the mercenaries were tried in the DPR, not in Russia.
1569  Economy / Economics / Re: Unusual Situation as Russia’s Ruble bounces back as world best per fiat currency on: June 09, 2022, 07:24:49 PM
EDIT: Yes, Russia limited by law the amount of RUB to USD you can exchange: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/03/08/ruble-dollar-exchange-barred/
This is a very old article from the beginning of March, the information in it is not up to date at the moment. Today, Putin canceled the mandatory sale of foreign exchange earnings for exporters, yesterday the Central Bank of Russia increased the export limit from $50,000 to $150,000. Russia is trying in every possible way to weaken the rapidly strengthening ruble, because it is unprofitable with a large positive trade balance. So far, it is not working out very well, apparently the Central Bank will again reduce the key rate in the near future.
1570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 09, 2022, 07:08:39 PM
So they've been living in Ukraine for years, enlisted with Ukrainian military, but because they're British citizens they are sentenced to death instead being treated as prisoners of war like the rest?
Yep. I heard that Sean Pinner was declared a terrorist in the UK for participating in an armed conflict in Syria. I also heard that the captured Azov militants testified against him that he was a sniper. He himself, when surrendering, seems to have declared that he was a cook and instructor. In any case, this is a show trial to show the foreign mercenaries fighting in Ukraine that they will be treated as civilians and tried for war crimes with the strictest severity if they are surrendered.
1571  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 09, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Let's not forget Russia did not send Kamikaze passenger planes into these buildings, but rockets, which cause a totally different type of destruction.
The nature of the destruction from Russian sea- and air-launched missiles used in Ukraine is fairly well known. Most likely, the photographs show traces of destruction from downed Russian missiles, for which we must thank the Ukrainian missile defense system.
1572  Economy / Economics / Re: Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe? on: June 09, 2022, 05:06:26 PM

The answer is extremely simple - a corrupt, corrupt, or mired in compromising evidence, European lobby like Merkel, Sarkozy and other Orbans. These are people who have made the most of their efforts to ensure that Russia gains a foothold in the European oil and gas market, and gas and oil have become, in fact, levers of influence on entire countries! And many continue to do so to this day. Honor, conscience, moral and ethical principles, universal values, for many European politicians - is an empty phrase. And they are even proud of the status of a Kremlin prostitute! I think that Britain did not just leave this "union"

You needlessly accuse the former political leaders of Germany and France of corruption, yet these are the leading countries of the European Union with developed democracies. Germany under Merkel was the economic leader and locomotive of the European Union, and Germany under Scholz is now like a worthless hysteria. No steel from Krivoy Rog, no cheap gas from Russia - and all the industrial power of Germany stopped and crumbled to dust. France was asked from Mali, and France now has problems with the supply of uranium for nuclear plants. Several nuclear power plants will have to be mothballed this year due to resource depletion. Europe is facing serious energy starvation in the near future. Cooperation with Russia for Europe is not only a matter of political preferences, but also a matter of well-being, and possibly a matter of survival.


Democracy, developed or not, hysterical or not - all this cannot deny corruption. Corruption did not appear under Scholz or Merkel. The historical connection between Germany and the USSR / RF has been very intertwined since the beginning of the 20th century. From the October Revolution, to the Hitler-Stalinist alliance and the unleashing of the Second World War by them - this was the beginning. Then, in the 20th century, the USSR, having both agents and a very "thick" collection of compromising evidence on high-ranking officials of the FRG and the GDR, continued the "game". Realizing that in the 60s of the 20th century, Germany became the leader of Europe, not to put her on a drug in the form of gas and oil would be an omission for the USSR, which always needed currency. And it is precisely the convenient contracts that give the status of almost a monopolist, and the strongest lobbying for the interests of the USSR and then the Russian Federation, that everything was built on bribery, and it is possible to intimidate those who were compromised. Tell me - was the prime minister of Gabon offered a place at the very top of Rosneft or Gazprom? Or maybe Spanish? Or Mongolian? No. To the one who, in fact, "planted" key European countries on Russian gas. There are a lot of materials about the corruption of the German top leadership. I really hope that Frau Merkel will go to trial and will be forced to testify. Well, if she suddenly does not die unexpectedly immediately after the announcement of suspicion to her, having gone on a "business trip to the Russian Federation" Smiley
And your answer perfectly demonstrates precisely the complete dependence of Germany on Russian resources. But ... Germany will have to go through the "breaking of a drug addict" in order to become a really independent Germany, and not be a hand-me-down Kremlin terrorist! Smiley
Where exactly are these materials, how can I get acquainted with them?

I'm tired of your baseless accusations. It would be nice if the Pope wrote from your account, but you are from Ukraine, and Ukraine has one of the highest levels of corruption in Europe, and maybe in the world. Therefore, your sweeping accusations to the right and to the left are like empty air shaking.
1573  Economy / Economics / Re: Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe? on: June 09, 2022, 04:30:45 PM
The UN was unable to confirm Ukraine's accusations against Russia of stealing grain
1574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 09, 2022, 03:52:43 PM
The Supreme Court of the DPR sentenced to death British citizens Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, as well as Moroccan Saadoun Brahim, who are accused of participating in hostilities as part of the Ukrainian armed formations as mercenaries.

Putin might have enough sway in Donetsk to convince them to commute the sentences to life.

Maybe if Zenensky and Bojo went to Putin, hat-in-hand, and asked Mr. Putin nicely he would see what he could do.  If Zenensky and Bojo don't care enough about their own nationals (and people who fought on their behalf in coke-head's case) to even try that simple thing then there will be that much more blood on their hands.

Seriously for a minute, I'm curious if there are strong indications that the trial was either fair or unfair on the part of the DPR.  A non-partisan analysis of what is know of the proceedings would be of interest if anyone (serious) runs across such a thing.
The verdict was passed, but has not entered into force and can be appealed within a month. As far as I know, the verdict was passed on the basis of the confessions of the accused and the testimony of the Azov militants who surrendered. For foreign mercenaries, a Ukrainian safari can be deadly. As I understand it, the line of defense was that these mercenaries served in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and should be considered combatants, but the line of defense did not work and they were tried as civilians for a criminal offense.
1575  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 09, 2022, 02:21:07 PM
The Supreme Court of the DPR sentenced to death British citizens Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, as well as Moroccan Saadoun Brahim, who are accused of participating in hostilities as part of the Ukrainian armed formations as mercenaries.
1576  Economy / Economics / Re: LMAO: India resells Russian oil to the European Union. on: June 08, 2022, 04:16:35 AM
Let's see how Russia will be able to sell about 3 million barrels that were going to Europe and its allies.
Through the Druzhba pipeline? Haven't you realized yet that the EU oil embargo is pure farce and bluff. Hungary did not join the embargo, Bulgaria, Slovakia and Croatia did, but with a number of reservations and delays. A large refinery in East Germany that produces aviation fuel for the whole of Europe is designed for heavy Russian oil, and it is easier to build a new plant than to reconfigure an old one. Europe has painted itself into a corner with populist statements by incompetent politicians, and now their voters will have to pay the price. Russia does not need to sell three million barrels to Europe when Europe is driving up oil prices through its actions. It is enough to sell two million and get the same money or even more.

False. The embargo is real. The oil bought by those countries is 10% of the total and does not make any difference. Hungary is as close as a country can get to being expelled from the EU for failing to follow the rule of law, implementing one state of exception after another. They are already excluded from the EU funds for those reasons. Let them buy from Adolf Putin, eventually they may only be able to buy from him.

There is no lack of refining capability in Europe, there is no lack of heavy crude oil in the world. Unfortunately, the RF citizens are going to have a though time in the next decade.

US and EU are avoiding what is called "secondary sanctions" to India and China, but India will pay a price for this eventually.
Do not accuse me of lying, if you are not able to confirm this with evidence and facts, with unfounded accusations you only discredit yourself and lose the status of an adequate interlocutor in the eyes of others. There is too much hypocrisy to consider the EU oil embargo real in a thread discussing India's resale of refined Russian oil to Europe lol.
1577  Economy / Economics / Re: World has just ten weeks' worth of wheat left after Ukraine war on: June 08, 2022, 04:09:15 AM
It is a chain reaction. In the long term, the price of olive oil can't remain at the same level as that of sunflower oil. As people start replacing sunflower oil with olive oil, the price for the latter would go up. Sunflower oil prices have already gone up by around 50%, and we can expect the olive oil prices to rise by a similar level. The equilibrium in the market is disrupted. And it will have an impact on all the commodifies, and not just on the commodities that are mostly sourced from Russia and Ukraine, such as wheat, sunflower oil, barley and oats.
Sunflower and olive oil are not interchangeable products, although in stores they often stand side by side on the next shelf. Refined sunflower oil is ideal for frying and is difficult, if not impossible, to replace here. There are many good and different options for salad dressing, but not for frying.
1578  Economy / Economics / Re: Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe? on: June 07, 2022, 06:30:28 AM
There have been rumors and news about the possibility that Biden administration is willing to lift some sanctions so Venezuela can export oil to Europe.

https://www.businessinsider.com/oil-from-venezuela-to-help-replace-russian-crude-reuters-reports-2022-6

Now, this first step was taken so Venezuela can pay a debt with oil shipped to Europe, however, this may be the beginning of a deal between USA an Venezuela to supply even more energy to the old continent, in order to replace Russian gas.

This would result in a weird situation for Venezuela, since we have relatively close diplomatic relations with Russia and perhaps if this government (Nicolas Maduro) seeks blindly the profit and acceptance of USA, the Russia-Venezuela relations could result hurt.

Why don't these western idiots realize that even if Venezuela, Iran and all the GCC nations come onboard, still they won't be able to replace the output from Russia? And I am flabbergasted by this sudden love for countries such as Venezuela. If I am not wrong, the Americans seized a few tons of Venezuelan gold reserves some time back. Since the relations have now warmed up again, are they going to release those reserves? And maybe Biden administration will go up one step further and recognize Nicolás Maduro as the legitimate ruler of Venezuela?
The US interest in Venezuela and Iran is not accidental; their grade of oil is similar to the Russian grade of heavy oil. Some fuels, such as jet fuel and diesel, are made in refineries that need heavy oil for their processing cycle, and this oil cannot be replaced by light oil from the Middle East.
1579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Russia Taiwan Connection (speculation) on: June 07, 2022, 06:17:06 AM
Seems like a lot of people don't get what I was saying. The military might that the US is sending into the Ukraine is going to Russia as Russia gradually conquers. Any body who thinks that US leaders don't know this has to be pretty slow on the uptake.

So, why is the US giving its military wealth away to Russia? I suggest it is being done under secret agreement, that Russia will use much of it to antagonize China if China decides to attack Taiwan. This will take the Chinese focus off Taiwan.

The fact that the Ukraine is the method through which the transfers are made - Russia conquers more and more of the Ukraine on a regular basis, just to get the US armament that Ukraine has been given - is a ploy to hide the secret agreement from the eyes of the world... and particularly China.

Why doesn't the US simply threaten China directly rather than going through Russia? To many trade agreements with both China and Taiwan. Using Russia to protect Taiwan from China lets the US have its cake and eat it too.

Cool
Russia's only interest in Taiwan is semiconductors. Taiwan imposed sanctions on the supply to Russia, Russia restricted the export of inert gases, the Chinese Foreign Ministry recently made a statement that "Taiwan's attempts to create problems for Moscow are doomed to failure." From Russia's point of view, this is China's internal affair, so China will have to decide the Taiwan issue on its own, with Russia's tacit support and consent.
1580  Economy / Economics / Re: Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe? on: June 07, 2022, 06:10:36 AM

The answer is extremely simple - a corrupt, corrupt, or mired in compromising evidence, European lobby like Merkel, Sarkozy and other Orbans. These are people who have made the most of their efforts to ensure that Russia gains a foothold in the European oil and gas market, and gas and oil have become, in fact, levers of influence on entire countries! And many continue to do so to this day. Honor, conscience, moral and ethical principles, universal values, for many European politicians - is an empty phrase. And they are even proud of the status of a Kremlin prostitute! I think that Britain did not just leave this "union"

You needlessly accuse the former political leaders of Germany and France of corruption, yet these are the leading countries of the European Union with developed democracies. Germany under Merkel was the economic leader and locomotive of the European Union, and Germany under Scholz is now like a worthless hysteria. No steel from Krivoy Rog, no cheap gas from Russia - and all the industrial power of Germany stopped and crumbled to dust. France was asked from Mali, and France now has problems with the supply of uranium for nuclear plants. Several nuclear power plants will have to be mothballed this year due to resource depletion. Europe is facing serious energy starvation in the near future. Cooperation with Russia for Europe is not only a matter of political preferences, but also a matter of well-being, and possibly a matter of survival.
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