Wall street is already considering buying Bitcoin:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/goldman-shuns-jpmorgans-dimon-plans-bitcoin-trading-operation

As you see, their interest is obvious. Jamie Dimon can say whatever he wants, meanwhile Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are showing clear evidences of being bullish on bitcoin. They know they can't ignore this or else they will look like massive idiots in 10 years and probably bankrupt as well.

Im just hoping that the #no2x movement keeps gaining traction. We got a bunch of people on board with a lot of BTC ready to dump on the segwit2x/bizcoin chain, including Trace Mayer, Charlie Lee and a lot of other whales.

We also got the support of almost everyone twitter, this is important because it shows the common user that isn't part of a corporation doesn't want this bullshit.

Remember to put [no2x] in front of your twitter handle and remember to write to all of the exchanges that are supporting this to stop supporting it and threat them with never depositing any money there again.

It for sure will go up if that happens, but Catalonia wouldn't be recognized by anyone with political and economical weight which is why they are better off in Spain, and I see it as very unlikely that their politicians are stupid enough to go on with this. The polls are weak, there isn't a clear majority of people that want to leave. It would be a mistake for them to keep pushing this nonsense. They wouldn't be any more free and they will not enjoy being part of Spain which is a recognized place. Most people doesn't know where Catalonia is compared to Spain. Their politicians would also be responsible for causing a civil war by declaring a republic over a weak referendum. The rest of people that want to remain in Spain aren't going to sit down and watch as this unfolds. I hope a peaceful solution is achieved.

Right, so when a fork also has segwit and you have your coins in the format that begins with 3 (not sure how this is called) or the bc1 format, you will receive the coins just OK on the other chain in the same addresses. Well this is good to go, but for long term storage and to receive coins of forks that may not have segwit i think its better to store them in legacy format. For example I think Bitcoin Gold has no segwit.



Well I didn't exactly mean move, I meant to make a copy and paste it on the other folder. Let's see if this is the fixed full version:

1 ) Get all of your coins in legacy format addresses (the ones that begin with 1 that is) but if the fork supports segwit then you are good to do with segwit addresses too
2 ) These keys must be ideally in a full node of the legacy chain (so Bitcoin Core will do)
3 ) Wait for the split to happen
4 ) Split day is here, you received the same amount of coins you are holding on the forked chain (in this case segwit2x chain, but Bitcoin Gold chain or whatever also when it happens)
5 ) Make a backup of your wallet.dat elsewhere on another folder in several places just in case
6 ) Shut down Bitcoin Core and delete your wallet.dat
7 ) Open Bitcoin Core again and now you have a brand new empty wallet
8 ) Create new receiving addresses (use coin control to know how many addresses you will need to retain privacy)
9 ) Put these addresses in a .txt file
10 ) Close Bitcoin Core
11 ) Now rename this wallet.dat to emtpywallet.dat or something
12 ) Put back the wallet.dat that actually has your coins
13 ) Run Bitcoin Core again
14 ) Send your coins to the created addresses
15 ) This now empty wallet, is the one that you should move to the btc1 client or whatever other fork to access your coins
16) Open btc1 client and once btc1 client is synced you will see the coins, now you are free to send them to an exchange and dump them for the real BTC
17) Now close btc1 client and open Bitcoin Core again with the wallet.dat where you moved the coins
18) Create receiving addresses there and send your free BTC coins from the exchange where you dumped 2xcoin for BTC
19 ) Profit!!!

wow this gave me an headache, but I think its correct.

Ok so from what I've gathered and please someone confirm if this is correct, this is how you get ready for a hardfork:

1 ) Get all of your coins in legacy format addresses (the ones that begin with 1 that is)
2 ) These keys must be ideally in a full node of the legacy chain (so Bitcoin Core will do)
3 ) Wait for the split to happen
4 ) Split day is here, you recieved the same amount of coins you are holding on the forked chain (in this case segwit2x chain, but Bitcoin Gold chain or whatever also when it happens)
5 ) You move all of your coins to other addresses in the legacy chain
6 ) Your wallet.dat is now empty
7 ) Move this empty wallet.dat into a full node client of the forked chain
8 ) Once you sync it, your coins will show up there
9 ) Now you are in full control of the coins on both chains and you can send your segwit2x/BCash/Gold/whatever fork coins into an exchange and dump for free real BTC
10 ) Profit!!!

The price was obviously halted due China scaring investors away with their usual banning bullshit, but the good news is, bitcoin showed to the world it's capacity to recover from threat in an amazing fashion. We are now past far above $3000 and in fact we have people dreaming with another double bottom to try to get cheap $3000 coins. The good news for the hodlers is, the MA has recently crossed and this is extremely bullish when it happens in the 1day candle chart. I have finally become bullish on the 1 day candle too. Let's hope we are at all time highs this month, I think it's very realistic to hit $5000+.

If the so called elites are buying bitcoin instead of banning it, it just makes already rich bitcoin whales (which have pro-crypto agendas) richer. The amount of BTC they would need to buy is simply too high.

They can't do that much beyond causing price crashes with bans, and we already saw how that played out for China. We are about to hit an all time high after China basically banned all exchanges, think about that again.

All they can do with bans is temporal price crashes which will get bought up again, restoring confidence since the more times bitcoin resurges after bans, the less effective said bans are. This is why the market has not reacted at all at the South Korean ICO ban and Swiss ICO ban. Once you do it once, the next time is not interesting for the market, so the next time exchanges are banned somewhere else, it will be the same. You simply can't stop this at this point, pandora's box has been opened. Get in and get yourself a strong bitcoin position or be lefit behind, no other options.

Don't cash out anything into fiat. The point is to dump the fake bitcoins to get more bitcoin and crush the price on the fake bitcoins while increasing your real bitcoin stack. If you own 1 BTC, now you will have a nice extra (I predict around 0.1 BTC given BCash prices if you get lucky). So 0.1 BTC is hard to make these days, I would save it in cold stare with your main stack.

It is an altcoin, but it is ultimately a bitcoin fork, which means it's not just some altcoin you are not related to as a bitcoin holder, because you are going to be receiving free coins. Some people like to call it "bitcoin dividends". Whatever, the point is, as a real bitcoin holder, you will get free coins in all these altcoin forks (Gold, BCash, 2xCoin..etc). You just need to dump them for free real Bitcoin, is that easy.

Most people out there can't even reach the end of the month with enough money to call yourself other than surviving, so what people do is work under the radar for cash. This is common in people that have some sort of skill like computer skills (offering repairs), language skills (offering classes), construction skills (offering fixing your bathroom or whatever).. and the list goes on and on.

Most people just can't afford paying every tax that there is otherwise they wouldn't be able to comfortably reach the end of the month, and going from paycheck to paycheck while you rot inside your bedroom because you have no money other than paying taxes, food and bills sucks and you would rather be dead than live that life, so I understand why people resort to working for cash away from the government stealing all of your money.

But once governments get rid of cash, Bitcoin will be the way to keep doing this for the people that need to, which means the price will skyrocket.

Im surprised to not see any threads about this. If they actually go through with it and declare Independence unilaterally, it could cause a lot of problems. If it becomes an international problem outside of Spain, it could escalate quickly to an European crisis, in this sense, BTC could become a very strong safe haven, as it always is thanks to Bitcoin being a neutral store of value/currency.

Jeff Garzik is insane. He wants to get rid of the original chain and then claim segwit2xcoin is BTC. He is another power drunk developer that thinks users=bribed hashrate and bribed fiat exchanges.

I hope that we get enough hashrate for the whales to dump on segwit2x chain and destroy the price, otherwise we are going to see Bitcoin get took over by corporate fiat CEOs and at that point it's pretty much dead.

People aren't even using bitcoin to complain about capacity problems, as exposed by the research on mempool spam:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/curious-case-bitcoins-moby-dick-spam-and-miners-confirmed-it/

Nobody is even using bitcoin anywhere enough to demand a rushed hardfork that would put incompetent developers in charge of the main branch coupled with a price crash. Jeff Garzik and the rest of NYA signers will be responsible of billions in loses. They should run for cover.

I guess he is talking about Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan) saying how Bitcoin is a fraud.

We've had Wolf of Wall Street himself saying recently that Bitcoin was a fraud too. A lot of people seem to want to get their personally timed dip to buy at the right time. Too bad it didn't work for Mr Belfort because the price is going to $5000 in a matter of days now.

Last time I checked... there's only 1 Bitcoin. I don't understand why some people pretend Bitcoin Cash is a second Bitcoin. Why aren't they counting Bitcoin Dark, Bitcoin Plus, Bitcore and so on? And what about the up and coming Bitcoin Gold?

Stop falling for propaganda. There is never going to be two Bitcoins. The problem with segwit2x is that these bastards are trying to kill the legacy chain. If they really wanted to compete, they would just fork and add replay protection and become an altcoin like Bitcoin Cash, but they pretend to take over the real Bitcoin. This is dangerous for anyone involved on that, I don't think the real Bitcoin whales are going to like that.

The ban on China clearly represents a new era, the post-Governmental ban on Bitcoin era, and it is obviously a very bullish one, since it means we have recovered from the ban of the allegedly biggest player on Bitcoin.

If we can survive that, im certain we can survive anything. CEO of JP Morgan also got proven wrong once again, and was caught buying the dip.

Holders win another day.

The original idea was that smart contract apps would be designed on top of the Ethereum blockchain, but the biggest use of Ethereum is ironically issuing ICO tokens, and not much else. What other interesting smart contract apps have you seen that have been a success? Because I don't know a single one. The only thing I know is that tokens are getting issued everyday on the ETH blockchain and this is increasingly bloating it to absurd levels, to the detriment of holders trying to make transactions.

I think gold is nonsense at this point. You can buy and hold as much gold as you want... so what? not only the price doesn't outperform bitcoin, but the fact that it is literally impossible to cross a border with your wealth renders gold a pretty useless edge against your government turning against you, or any other reason you would need to have a neutral asset to defend against countries screwing up your wealth.

I can't find anything that beats bitcoin to be honest.

Cyprus was a nice sign of the neutral position of Bitcoin being an ideal safe haven above gold. Gold has been underperforming and not rising when it was supposed to go up during times of uncertainty. Only recently gold has been going up. Goldbugs (usually the ones that sell gold) are now saying that gold is going into an all time high and crypto will go down. Honestly I doubt it. They are just trying to sell you their gold.

Bitcoin continues to shine and prove all the haters wrong. We are going to be at $5000 soon. There will always be reasons for Bitcoin to go up. It's the wonders of being a global, decentralized, neutral asset.

It's very convenient to see this thread pumped, because I have the opportunity to post this here now and compare it to what they were saying a couple months back:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-27/bitcoin-more-than-just-a-fad-morgan-stanley-ceo-gorman-says


As you see, these bastards will change their opinion just like they change clothes. Chances are they want you to sell and buy at will in order for them to profit.

You know the drill: Buy and hold. The banksters don't know anything about Bitcoin.