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201  Economy / Economics / Re: Shall I hold or invest with %12.5 premium per year ? on: November 09, 2015, 09:06:55 PM
I'd invest in Greece right now. I'd start with small amounts and short maturities. They need the help, i'm willing to take the risk to help them. Now, if only it were easy for me to buy some Greece bonds!
202  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: November 09, 2015, 09:02:47 PM
Coinut.com - it's gotta be the best way to turn 2 into 4, especially over the last few weeks with these wild price swings.

Coinut.com  is the only site I know of that offers bitcoin options trading. Check them out!
203  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: November 09, 2015, 09:01:03 PM
Outdated, yes.  But is anyone pissed they didn't buy when BTC hit $200? That was the most recent bottom and it was only at that level for a few days. I'm glad I got a piece - did you?
204  Economy / Economics / Re: I just made my 4th BTC on: November 09, 2015, 08:56:28 PM
I would say hold on to your coins and wait on the increasing price of bitcoin Cheesy

This HODL advice is the worst you can give.  The bitcoin price will rise only when people start using it.

This is partially true. Adoption grows as people use bitcoin (and then more people are exposed to it and start using it, etc.) I guess the long term appreciation comes from using your bitcoin now. But technically if you sell your coins you are supporting a lower value now (because you're willing to sell them at whatever price is available now rather than holding for a higher price.)

Congrats on your BTC4!

I'd think about how much time and effort you spent earning that much 'coin and determine if you can do it faster or earn more with the same amount of effort. There's probably some efficiency you can gain. Good  luck!
205  Economy / Economics / Re: My logical to avoid speculation bad investment on: November 09, 2015, 08:52:28 PM
This is good.

I especially like your comment on "Stay With Your Rules"! This is VERY important. All too often emotion plays a bad role in investment decisions. If you've decided you can handle x% loss or you want to achieve x% gain - when you get there, pull the trigger and buy or sell. Stay rational and  stay with your rules!
206  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrecies real stats market cap? on: November 09, 2015, 08:47:18 PM
I like stay informed on all alt and news. I'm the first that believe a lot on Bitcoin. And i think it will be ne 90%+ learder in cryptocurrencies

I agree with you - but what do you think will make up the remaining  10%?

Litecoin is an obvious choice but perhaps there are others, not as well known yet, that present greater opportunity for market share growth.
207  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggestions of the best way to earn bitcoin through refferals on: November 09, 2015, 08:45:59 PM
Best way is to gather referrals on Bitcoin bux sites like Coinad.com and BTCClicks.com. I've got around 80 active referrals and Coinad which bring me around 25-30k Sats every day. This could be an option for you.

How did you get 80 referrals - I think that's what the OP is asking. How do you get them? How much time or money did you spend? Is it worth it if it takes 3,333 days to earn one bitcoin (at a rate of 30,000 satoshi per day)?
208  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to trading bitcoin? on: November 09, 2015, 08:37:22 PM
If you want to trade between fiat and BTC or litecoin and BTC you should DEFINITELY try Bit-x. See my signature for a link.

They allow you to do all of it without having to withdrawal or use multiple companies. It's a very simple system and user interface. Very easy to use! And of course the fees are low.
209  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Satoshi Nakamoto will ever come out from his hood? on: November 09, 2015, 08:35:24 PM
Satoshi nakamoto as we all know is a bitcoin inventor . Well he started it in 2009 and got away from it in 2011 . Why?

And Do you think he will ever come out of his hood so that everyone can see that great person and give a big and and greate salute to that guy?

He's not a bitcoin inventor, he's "THE BITCOIN INVENTOR"!

I don't think he'll ever go public. There's too much risk for him if he did. Countries could try to sue him. People would harass him like a celebrity. He'd never have any privacy. He's probably not even one person...
210  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: November 09, 2015, 08:30:47 PM
I would sell all my Bitcoins if I had some Smiley


John...you need to get some bitcoins. Go to the link in my profile - it's to a faucet, won't make you much, but it's easy to use and will  pay you more than other faucets (set up a wallet with Xapo.com to go along with it.)

We need to get you hodling!
211  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: November 09, 2015, 08:27:47 PM
Just complete the sentence with your thoughts... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..."

...I were broke.

...I found a better opportunity for my funds.

...probably never, I think I'll always keep 1 or 2 lying around.


Good question!
212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto and the Nobel Memorial Prize on: November 09, 2015, 08:26:25 PM
It's notable, but he/she/they have no chance of winning because it is still new. Whether or not Bitcoin has actually changed anything has yet to be seen.

It's not bitcoin it's the blockchain tech he/she/they invented that would be the reason for their victory.

Yeah, the blockchain tech may be what ends up being the greatest benefit to the greatest number of people. I think  we're way too soon though. The impacts haven't been realized by many at all. If he were to get the nomination  now  it would be similar to the Nobel Peace prize going to Barack Obama (without him actually having  spent  a  lifetime fighting for peace, obviously he hasn't - he's gone to war!)

I don't think the blockchain or bitcoin will fail, but we need more evidence that it had a significant impact on many. We're just not there yet.
213  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin democratic or are we just transferring wealth? on: November 09, 2015, 08:15:15 PM
The system is basically just reproducing the inefficiencies and inequalities that exist in the wide world and reprinting them in a micro scale. I don't see a difference between the Bitcoin market and any other commodity market, prices are determined by irrational market forces rather than some reasoned, understandable force.

Bankers on Wall Street shift Bitcoin in huge amounts and probably buy a lot of coins when they are cheap to profit on. Arbitrage traders would be all over Bitcoin, it's amazing. But Bankers on Wall St. want cocaine, and cocaine can be purchased with Bitcoin.

Are Cartels and Mafia groups using BTC?

What's your point?

You'd like for Bitcoin to make everyone equal? To "spread the wealth"? Not happening.

Bitcoin is pure unadulterated crack capitalism cocaine. Of course bankers, traders and every one that is power hungry will love it.

I think you just summarized his point. Bitcoin is no more noble, altruistic, or romantic than the current commodity market. Well, maybe a bit more romantic...

Bitcoin is special for its access and infrastructure...it's not saving the world.
214  Other / Off-topic / Re: EBAY sale Question on: November 09, 2015, 08:05:03 PM
Doesn't PayPal offer a limited amount of insurance to protect sellers?

In my experience eBay and PayPal have been great companies to work with.  And remember that we were all new to eBay, or PayPal, or Bitcointalk at some point. When we have no history we need to rely on the trust of others to earn that history. I hope this doesn't end badly for you and feel good (for  now) that you took a shot on  a "newbie".
215  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrecies real stats market cap? on: November 09, 2015, 08:03:01 PM
I don't think other coin will replace Bitcoin soon, but i'm interested to see the market cap.

Is there any site? Thank you

Which coins do you fancy beyond Bitcoin? Any of the stats provided give you excitement or disappointment.

I don't follow other coins much so I'd benefit from your perspective.
216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it a waste of time mentioning Bitcoin to friends and family? on: November 09, 2015, 08:00:28 PM
You can't force people to agree with you, but there's no harm in explaining to them how it works and why you (and others) believe it's valuable and useful. It can be hard for people to see the need to go through more effort to pay for goods and  services that they can pay for easily with fiat.

Maybe you could pay for something with Bitcoin when you're out with these family members so they can see how familiar it really is, how easy it is, etc.
217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Europeans Can Now Receive Their Paycheck in Bitcoin on: November 09, 2015, 07:57:56 PM
What great news!

I'd love to know if any statistics will be published on the adoption and use of this service. It's one thing to have the service available but if people don't subscribe to it, what's the point?

I hope this is wildly successful.
218  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin democratic or are we just transferring wealth? on: November 09, 2015, 07:56:43 PM
Yes, BTC is very democratic. Anyone can get a wallet, and all wallets are equal. This is better than banks. Some people cannot open a bank account because they've been through a bankruptcy, or there's a court order against their belongings. And equality doesn't exist with banks. The blue collar worker doesn't have the same account, nor the same bank than a surgeon.

Wealth transfer? What are you talking about? I haven't seen any of that.

I agree with your points but I don't think this demonstrates democracy. It demonstrates equality in access. Which is a GREAT thing and not possible with all traditional banks.

As for your wealth transfer comment, in the traditional sense it refers to taking money from the wealth and  redistributing it to the poor, which makes things more equal but it also hurts ambition and takes away the reward that comes from people taking risk or working  hard in the market.
219  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin democratic or are we just transferring wealth? on: November 09, 2015, 07:53:38 PM
The principles or theories of Democracy and wealth transfer are not dependent on each other.

You can have a democracy and there can be a vote on whether wealth transfer should exist and majority of people in that democracy can vote against wealth transfer and you have a perfectly executed democratic decision AND decision not to engage in wealth transfer.

You're asking two separate questions:

1. Is Bitcoin democratic? No. The discussions of the fork recently demonstrated that a few developers could make decisions for Bitcoin. In this case the fork didn't happen, but it wasn't because of some democratic process that "defeated" the intention to start a fork.

2. Is Bitcoin a form of wealth transfer? Yes, but not in the sense that it's taking  from the rich to give to the poor. But any system that enables wealth to be moved from one person to another is wealth transfer.
220  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Just one question about investors on: November 09, 2015, 05:59:54 AM
Good suggestions so far, one that hasn't been mentioned is posting info about your project and asking for investors on the Projects board. You can find it here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0

Good luck!
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