Looks like Josh just brought us the fastest and cheapest way to buy any any crypto with a credit card. I'm all for it! He's made mistakes (lots) but I never lost money and don't believe I will in the foreseeable future because of GAW.
How high are you? I'm about 15 doobies in today, and I am still smart enough to know that there is at least 10 simple, easy ways to buy bitcoin in about 2 minutes with credit card, no scams needed. There's only coin.mx and circle AFAIK. Can you name one other? It depends where you are located, but let's give a shot at a few here. Coin Mama BitonicBittylicious Indacoin Celery I believe Coinbase? Circle Trucoin Coin.Mx cex.io VirWox Google will give you more. Where did you get "Looks like Josh just brought us the fastest and cheapest way to buy any any crypto with a credit card" if you knew about Circle and coin mx, A little misinformation would you say? Does the Paycoin community have a habitual lying problem, or just likes to avoid the plain sight truth, this seems to be something that runs in the community. |
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STOP REPORTING LIES AND FUD. ANOTHER WORDPRESS SITE WITH A WEAK PASSWORD. YOU FUDSTERS NEVER LEARN.
PAYCOIN WILL WIN. Lol, nobody needs FUD =) This is just the commercials in between all of Joshes blatant lies and shortcomings. He will wreck it himself  |
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Looks like Josh just brought us the fastest and cheapest way to buy any any crypto with a credit card. I'm all for it! He's made mistakes (lots) but I never lost money and don't believe I will in the foreseeable future because of GAW.
How high are you? I'm about 15 doobies in today, and I am still smart enough to know that there is at least 10 simple, easy ways to buy bitcoin in about 2 minutes with credit card, no scams needed. |
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password protected  gggggggimmmme |
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blog sites are not news. but whatever helps people think its legit. That goes for both for and against gaw. I think anyone has the right to call them selves a news site, it's up to the reader to decipher the good from bad. Unless there is some sort of news licence? |
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So it seems all the good mods are leaving or have left. Even the NON mods who hold the title are running awway from protecting josh and his bullshit.
Only the ones who suck at joshes dick and rim his arse out asking for more are now the mods.
So guess what that means ? nothing but I love GAW threads and posts. Heavy moderation, No common sense, nothing.
The ones left there are already showing signs of massive egos and power abuse. Pathetic.
Burn in hell gaw, you banned me for asking simple innocent questions about my investment. MY INVESTMENT !!!!!
You quickly went from asking simple questions to all out flame rage. What is this a sign of? I posted my questions and got banned on their forum. Where did I start a flame war exactly ? more like you are wanting something to happen when there is no potential. I am free to post what and how I want. As are you, even if your post is.....shit. End of the day, josh and co are clearly dishonest and are liars and scammers. If hey cant even take the time to answer the basic obvious questions about what they are doing with my money, they deserve all the treatment their way. BTW who the fuck are these 3 latest posters, never seen them in here before, are they part of the anti gaw fudd police ? seems like it from a history search. btw who the fuck are you? |
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I think if Bitcoin can be valued against something other than fiat we can start making progress. Anyone got any ideas?
Coffee or vape pens. bad idea coffee holds its value well. Grapes. Grapes and vape pens.  |
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Yes, they lost money. That doesn't mean they lost your money. They lost their hot wallet, but have much more funds in their cold wallet. They don't have any problem, paying back to their customer.
There was some user who was saying similar reassuring things about Mt. Gox all the way up to the bankruptcy. Who was that, and where are they now? Everyone on the outside always knows what's going on on the inside, that's what I love about this community. They don't speculate, they are 100% sure about everything. Trends, hacks, potential businesses, no speculators here, just a whole bunch of people that are 100% correct. |
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the proof is here: Bitstamp lost 19K bitcoin = 5 mil usd do you think that there were safe? try to withdraw some money from them today, see if you can BUT there are safe, right?  Yes, they lost money. That doesn't mean they lost your money. They lost their hot wallet, but have much more funds in their cold wallet. They don't have any problem, paying back to their customer. You seem quite sure of this? Can you provide evidence? Right now we know the funds are not where they should be, after they were deposited by customers. Yes, this would be an issue. Please don't brush this off like it is nothing, clearly you did not have funds involved, but i am sure there is a number of concerned people on here that did. Unless you know their money is coming back, kindly, shut your mouth  Just read some news about bitstamp. E.g. this: http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-passes-audit-overseen-bitcoin-developer-mike-hearn/Stopped at May 27... Then figured I should read. I understand that yeah, they are probably going to cover it, but as an outsider, with NO inside information, how can you tell people their funds are safe, based off a May press release of a valuation. There is a whole bunch of unknowns, and unless you are 100% leave it up to their staff to guarantee people's money. Yeah, most likely they will, but this place doesn't seem to function based on what everyone knows or assumes on a daily basis. Bistamp is related with Ripple, Bitcoin Foundation and others. Their shareholders are shareholders for many other bitcoin companies. i think they will cover the loss because the scandal will be TOO BIG and it will involve all these companies and Bitcoin will crush. Bitfinex, Coinbase are related with Bitstamp. Bitstamp is processing their orders. So, they are a gang who is manipulating the market how they want and each of them are taking a piece of the cake named Bitcoin. a simple proof is these days. Bitstamp hacked, people in panic, a lot of sells and the Bitcoin price is maintain at 270 USD In other cases, even a small exchanger had falled, the Bitcoin price went down. I think we are on completely different lines here. Thanks for the info about ripple and such, very good to know. I can't personally believe that "In other cases, even a small exchanger had falled, the Bitcoin price went down." Just find that interesting. Unless it is that obvious of complete market maniplation by a handful of people at the top, I would expect Microsoft announcing they accept bitcoin to have a market impact, which it didn't seem to, yet a small exchange getting hacked drives the price down? I would defiantly need some more information or statistics to side with this. Also, I do not understand how an exchange getting hacked would impact the sell market. It would focus people on getting their coins back from Bitstamp, not take what other BTC they have and turn to another exchange to sell them all.... Perhaps some would sell, but I don't think an exchanges hardships would change peoples minds about holding bitcoin in general. Just doesnt add up in my head. |
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the proof is here: Bitstamp lost 19K bitcoin = 5 mil usd do you think that there were safe? try to withdraw some money from them today, see if you can BUT there are safe, right? Yes, they lost money. That doesn't mean they lost your money. They lost their hot wallet, but have much more funds in their cold wallet. They don't have any problem, paying back to their customer. You seem quite sure of this? Can you provide evidence? Right now we know the funds are not where they should be, after they were deposited by customers. Yes, this would be an issue. Please don't brush this off like it is nothing, clearly you did not have funds involved, but i am sure there is a number of concerned people on here that did. Unless you know their money is coming back, kindly, shut your mouth Just read some news about bitstamp. E.g. this: http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-passes-audit-overseen-bitcoin-developer-mike-hearn/Stopped at May 27... Then figured I should read. I understand that yeah, they are probably going to cover it, but as an outsider, with NO inside information, how can you tell people their funds are safe, based off a May press release of a valuation. There is a whole bunch of unknowns, and unless you are 100% leave it up to their staff to guarantee people's money. Yeah, most likely they will, but this place doesn't seem to function based on what everyone knows or assumes on a daily basis. |
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...how do you explain the first few years? It was worth only a fraction of a cent and now it's over $260.
... Nothing to do with adoption. I've invested in Bitcoin because I was betting that someone (such as yourself) will buy my coin from me @ a higher price. So did everyone else who has made money on Bitcoin. Really? I don't know if you can speak for everyone else. I adopted it for easy gambling transactions, purchase it when I need it, and have never really heald longer then a few weeks, but have been lucky buying at the right times. Not sure where you have found the encouragement to speak on behalf of everyone who made money off bitcoin, but I can imagine some people were holding bitcoin for it's utility, while the price went up, which was probably awesome and enjoyed, but a generalization would be to say everyone who made money on it originally bought it as an investment. I'm not speaking for everyone, certainly not for the gamblers such as yourself. I'm sure adoption exists, just like I'm sure people watch pr0nz for their engaging story arc. What I am saying is this: Adoption is not what's driving BTC price, just like captivating plotlines are not the reason why pr0nz are popular. I hope this makes shit clearer. My apologies, when i read "So did everyone else who has made money on Bitcoin." I assumed you meant everyone else, I will do my best to read between the lines next time. |
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Short on time again today, but will share some resources in hopes of other people taking the reins. One of my favorite sleuthing tools is Web Boar (webboar.com). There, you can search by name, phone number, email address, web address, etc. Playing around on the site, you can find a lot of interesting info (i.e., the 130+ domains registered to JG, etc.). I started looking at ZenMiner.com a few days back. Kinda interesting if you google search phone numbers and email addys that are produced by searching webboar. http://www.webboar.com/whois/zenminer.comMan you're everywhere =) Good on ya for working the scams, keep it up crypto needs people like you . I stopped following Moolah pretty much figured he's gotten a free ride through court. |
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...how do you explain the first few years? It was worth only a fraction of a cent and now it's over $260.
... Nothing to do with adoption. I've invested in Bitcoin because I was betting that someone (such as yourself) will buy my coin from me @ a higher price. So did everyone else who has made money on Bitcoin. Really? I don't know if you can speak for everyone else. I adopted it for seamless online poker transactions, purchase it when I need it, and have never really heald longer then a few weeks, but have been lucky buying at the right times. Not sure where you have found the encouragement to speak on behalf of everyone who made money off bitcoin, but I can imagine some people were holding bitcoin for it's utility, while the price went up, which was probably awesome and enjoyed, but a generalization would be to say everyone who made money on it originally bought it as an investment, doubtful, there is lots of people here who have other uses, although they probably don't mind making a few bucks while holding it either. |
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the proof is here: Bitstamp lost 19K bitcoin = 5 mil usd do you think that there were safe? try to withdraw some money from them today, see if you can BUT there are safe, right? Yes, they lost money. That doesn't mean they lost your money. They lost their hot wallet, but have much more funds in their cold wallet. They don't have any problem, paying back to their customer. You seem quite sure of this? Can you provide evidence? Right now we know the funds are not where they should be, after they were deposited by customers. Yes, this would be an issue. Please don't brush this off like it is nothing, clearly you did not have funds involved, but i am sure there is a number of concerned people on here that did. Unless you know their money is coming back, kindly, shut your mouth |
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you cannot make any assuptions on true demand or true supply. or true value...
because the indicator you all only see is the price. and this price is so fake you dont realise it.
just look at the exchanges. they are not moving 13million coins. they are not even moving 1.3 million coins. they are not even moving 130k coins...
the exchanges are moving less than 1% of the market cap. infact its less than 1 tenth of a percent. so trying to link exchange movements to proper market trends of the whole 13million coins is utterly obsurd!!
open your eyes people, the exchanges should not be the value bases of bitcoin
The fact that the daily volume is a small portion of the market cap is irrelevant. Price does reflect what people are willing to pay. You are off your rocker as far I'm concerned when you say the exchange price is somehow fake. x2. Value is derived from demand. Demand for bitcoin is suggested from buy sell orders. If the merchant adoption was on par with consumer adoption or mainstream adoption for other purposes, the price would rise. I see a whole bunch of merchants accepting it, and a whole bunch of already bitcoin holders spending it. |
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This thread only makes me think: Bitcoin is too much. The possibilities it opens, technologies it enables - it's all just too much for businesses and governments and people to grasp easily.
Having said that, it is precisely these kinds of threads that help us digest bits and pieces.
Thanks Mike, retep, and everyone else!
Too much.. Curious about where you believe other technologies began? Everyone understood them from day 1? |
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What would gox 2.0 do to bitcoin?  lol. I have faith in Bitstamp's standards... for now.. Feel like they would be ready for something like this Bitcoin is not built around faith. It is rather built to defy it... Wow I really appreciate your wisdom. Really just wow, completely amazed. |
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What would gox 2.0 do to bitcoin? lol. I have faith in Bitstamp's standards... for now.. Feel like they would be ready for something like this |
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Hey Everyone.
Its been a while since I have been online. My account was hijacked and unfortunately have no method of recovering.
I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on BTCJam?
Have you funded users and been defaulted on? If yes, have you seen any activity on getting funds back?
Been wanting to fund users but not sure on scams.
i started with 2 btc and made several investments to fund borrowers. id say several of them, much too high a proportion imho, have defaulted and were most likely frauds. the due-diligence and ratings are easily faked. i have no confidence in the business model of lending in btc. most of those guys are either doing tiny amounts, to build reputations (so they can borrow more) or are doing larger amounts, with seriously flawed business plans to be able to repay. the risks are so high that the interests rates are through the roof, and, who could possibly afford to repay loans with interest rates in the 50-500% range ! most borrowers seem to be borrowing in btc and spending in fiat. cant possibly work, with such high currency risk. i really wanted it to work. i think the site itself isnt bad. but the business model is deeply flawed. Hey there, Would you suggest the lending is bad enough to remove them from our service listings? Haven't had experience, but do have them listed and definitely not in favor of promoting a service in which people are losing money. |
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