Like I said before, there are sadly different rules for massive corporations where there are often little to no consequences other than fines. I don't think tech companies are immune from being prosecuted about advertising certain scams though. I'm sure the laws will change soon enough to become more in line with things like TV advertising where there needs to be standards. On Youtube and Google now it's pretty much the wild West with most people coming across scams: https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-google-scam-ads-fraud-technology-2021-4?r=US&IR=T

Youtube probably has the technology to autoblock porn etc so I'm sure they will or can develop something similar. A human vetting the adds should be the least they do right now until they have the tech.


I believe people have been prosecuted from sharing darknet affiliate codes/links. Perhaps a little different as they're illegal marketplaces that sell drugs and guns etc but don't think it's above the powers that be trying to make the case that Chipmixer is also an illegal service which it may in fact be in certain countries so I would still advise caution.

I'd wait for Francis' side of the story before you make judgment and you also need to take Dana's comments with a pinch of salt as well because Dana is already seemingly trying to make the narrative about Francis being scared of fighting certain people which sounds like butthurt BS to me. Francis' coach has already come out and said Francis doesn't want to be a sell-out: https://www.instagram.com/p/CnfjW8XJuQL/

Looks like Francis himself might be going on Ariel's podcast today so hopefully we'll get his side of the story then, but when Dana said he offered Ngannou the highest heavyweight contract in history that might not mean much given how often they stiff the fighters and don't pay them what they're worth. He might have offered Francis a dollar more than the terrible pay he's previously offered superstar heavyweights and that would still technically be 'the highest pay'. He could have offered Francis a mere million or so dollars advance and you might think that's a lot but it's not when Francis can probably get that for a single sponsor on his shorts which you cannot do in the UFC so you have to take all this into consideration rather than being a slave to the UFC. What they probably did was offer Francis a large sum of money upfront for x amount of fights which will look a lot on paper but not anywhere near what he's worth. Dana mentioned he'd signed Jon Jones to an eight fight deal and I bet he tried to do the same with Francis but Francis probably isn't desperate for the money whereas Jon Jones probably is given he hasn't fought in ages and regularly gets himself into trouble so Jon will take what he can get and secure his future which is always perilous with him.


He's in a precarious place for sure. He can of course easily sign with any other MMA organisation but they probably won't pay him what he would have got with the UFC, though maybe one promotion might overpay for him and give him a massive bag to get the huge exposure and all eyes on them to take away some market share from the UFC so it might pay off that way. Hopefully he gets a mega crossover boxing even with someone like Fury which there was certainly talks behind the scenes about and Fury even posted something on his Instagram recently about it now Francis is a free agent. Making that fight is easier said than done though because everyone wants to fight Fury so he's in demand and will have a lot of mandatory challengers queuing up to fight him which he will have to take. I dare say there will likely be a Usyk rematch as well along with potential fights with AJ and Joe Joyce so it could be years before he's free.

There's a game tonight don't forget. 18 people still need to do their scores for it.


I've said it before and I'll say it again: they're professional athletes in peak physical form getting paid hundreds of thousands to kick a ball around a pitch for 90 minutes so they should be able to play 2 or even 3 games a week. Footballers will already be training twice a week anyway so I would have thought all they'll be doing is missing a training session and playing a match instead which I'm sure they'd all much rather do. I know people who play 5-a-side nearly every day of the week and they're not getting paid to do it so I don't think it's a big ask when teams have 2 games a week or sometimes 3 over 10 days or whatever. Some squad rotation is fine but don't just treat it as a friendly that you don't really care about and just to give some benchwarmers a run about.

Like I said, unless they subpoena the forum but the BFL labs case is a little different as they were probably trying to find out information about the people behind it. Also, like I said, err on the side of caution if you're worried. Law Enforcement could always decide to go after people who were advertising a service they deem illegal but unless it's a ponzi or some other scam then I think the chances of them wasting time trying to find out who was advertising a service on a message board would be slim though obviously not impossible.


They can and will go after Ponzi promoters etc. A fair few youtubers ended up getting into trouble for promoting these things to their audience even though they weren't directly involved they were making money from their referrals etc and spreading the scam to a larger audience. I think some even went to jail for it. Didn't some high profile celebs like Floyd Mayweather and Kim Kardashian also get into trouble for promoting pump and dumps and unregistered securities related to crypto coins as well? Those things are a little different to promoting other services but the legality of such will vary from region to region. Gambling sites are illegal in many counties for instance. I'm sure even bitcoin by itself is illegal to use in many countries too.

But he's not a large bank. Banks and other large scale businesses operate under different rules to the rest of us. HSBC was caught knowingly laundering a billion dollars for the Mexican cartel and nobody went to prison. They just paid a 2 billion fine which is probably a couple of weeks profit for them and then move on. If you laundered even a few thousand you'd go to jail and pay fines. For banks it's just a calculated risk and they'll take the chance knowing that even if they get caught they'll just pay the fees and carry on.

https://www.investopedia.com/stock-analysis/2013/investing-news-for-jan-29-hsbcs-money-laundering-scandal-hbc-scbff-ing-cs-rbs0129.aspx
https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/long-reads/hsbc-laundering-mexican-cartel-blackhurst-b2097490.html

Just look at Man City yesterday. They fielded an obvious weakened B-Team and now they've been knocked out by Southampton. I didn't even realise it was the quarter finals. That cup might end up being their only chance at Silverware and now they've gone and blown it. The cups are basically only taken seriously by the smaller teams now who do their best. Forrest and Newcastle are still in it along with Southampton so maybe they might take it more seriously than Man United who are the only other club still in it, though I think United might now push for it given it's probably the only thing they're in with a chance of winning this year.

You're at best a third part contractor doing promotional and advertising services for another company. Of course, the laws will be different around the world so what would happen would be different depending on jurisdiction but there's little chance you would personally be in trouble, but maybe your country has different laws on what people are allowed to advertise. I'm sure you could potentially get into trouble for advertising illegal services but I would be very surprised if someone came after you or other people who were advertising a company on some random website. How would they even know who you are? It's not like you've signed a contract with them and they have all your details that law enforcement can get if they shut down a service. All they have is a username on a forum unless they subpoena the board to get more information but I doubt that would happen just to try find out who was advertising them here. With that being said, if you're worried about something then I would err on the side of caution.

I would take that with a pinch of salt. I've lost count of how many times I've heard promoters say they're aiming for three fights in a year and then you get just the one or even zero. Pretty sure Eddie Hearn has said that about AJ for as long as I can remember and he's only fought once a year for the past three years. I'm sure in their head they want three fights to happen as that's pretty much the max a big fighter can do and obviously the more fights the more money in their pocket but as we can see it never works out that way. Just remember this post when we're in 2024 and lets see how many fights AJ and Fury have. I'm sure we'll get at least one each but I'd be very surprised if we get much more than that and certainly not three each. I'd expect three fights combined between them. With that being said, maybe we will get lucky as AJ needs a one or two tune up fights before he even considers someone like Fury and I suspect that's a big reason why that fight fell through as you'd just be throwing AJ to the wolves at that point.

There may not be a rematch clause as someone has to lose the belts in this situation but they may change their mind depending on the outcome of the fight and how well it does financially. If it's a huge money spinner and Abu Dhabi are willing to put up another chunk of cash for it don't be surprised if we see them go again. I could see either fighter wanting a rematch if they lose unless it's a very bad loss and they'd rather just move on. Of course there's mandatories that could throw a spanner in their plans as well. Personally I think I'd rather them just have the one fight then move onto other things.

It's a shame that big clubs don't take it seriously anymore. The top ones just treat it as a friendly match for them to put out a B team to experiment with. Long gone are the days when teams would go for the double/treble. Now it just seem the PL and CL is all they care about. Some of the big clubs even get pretty far in the domestic cups and they still don't take the quarters or semis serious. Winning the FA Cup is surely better than getting knocked out in the CL at some point.

Well rematch clauses are usually put in by the champ as a failsafe if they lose but they both have belts in this case so they probably don't need one, though both will likely want a chance to win their belts back should they lose. I'm sure if it's a good fight or even a close one people will want to see it again so they can probably easy make it again anyway. On the flipside both Fury and Usyk may not want to rematch if they win as there will be bigger fights and other belts to win so they might not want to be contractually obligated to go again so it's a catch 22. Rematch clauses can be annoying when they're forcing fighters to have two and sometimes even three fights which just holds the entire division up for a year and sometimes even more.



They probably have a venue provisionally locked down i.e. they've spoke to a London Arena or Dubai and can pencil in a date when the venue is empty/free so they have something to work with. That's how these things usually work but the venues can't keep themselves reserved for ever so that's why they need to get things done and dusted and then sign with the venue as well.

Looks like the fight is one step closer:

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1296818/tyson-fury-draft-contract-oleksandr-usyk-frank-warren/


This doesn't seem like a difficult fight to get made. It seems like Fury and Usyk's camps have been on the same page before negotiations even started so there's probably not many sticking points and I think they agreed to 50/50 a while back. If the fight is to go ahead in March they'll probably get this thing signed and announced very soon.


Yeah, you can't afford to leave it up to the judges these days as they often have terrible opinions or biases come into play. I think this could be a really boring fight and if Fury doesn't get a KO I could see Usyk winning it on points due to him being very defensive and those sorts of fights can often get them the win. I'm sure Fury knows this but it's not going to be easy to get the KO. Fury could tire him out with this size and weight advantage though. I wonder if there will be a rematch clause?

I just like it because it's unique and forward thinking. I don't like any of the other Tesla's as they're pretty bland and basic but this is something else entirely. I'll be pretty impressed if Elon actually get this thing into mass production without it costing nearly 100k.


I thought that would be well an truly the nail in the coffin for a UK release as I thought it was a legal requirement for cars in the UK to have airbags but I just checked and it turns out it actually isn't. I'm still not sure the build will pass UK regulations either and I'm still hoping it will be small enough to comfortably drive on UK roads.


I saw that the other day and thought it was a pretty good advertisement for Tesla. I don't know whether it was just sheer luck that nobody died or Tesla are stronger than others cars.

Forgot to put my scores in for this round. I'm not gonna bother putting the ones in for the rest of the week's games and just take advantage of the default picks and see how I do. I think I'll probably do better with that to be honest  . Got 2 points so far which is better than a handful of people who put their scores in and five other people are also on 2 points.


I wouldn't use Superbru for anything other than just putting in the scores and keeping track of them and it's perfect for that. It's definitely not for keeping up to date on the current scores etc as it can take a while to update. I just use Sofascore for that. They have an website and app. My only criticism of Superbru is like I've said before: I think you should get an extra point or two for an exact score but aside from that I haven't come across anything better or even close to it.

Devout Christian lol. The only church Fury will be going to every Sunday is the gym. Or the pub, but not during camp.


I don't think it has to happen in March that was just the date they had pencilled in. If both parties know that a deal is practically done and it's just ironing out the kinks they might already start camp soon without the contracts being fully done. You don't need more than 3 months so once xmas and New Years are done with they'll likely both be hitting the gym. It's probably just some small things that need sorting regarding the contracts.


Fury on points. I don't think Usyk will get anywhere close to knocking out Tyson but he could win it on points but I wouldn't pick that outcome. The only trouble with this fight is I think it could be a boring one. Usyk is like Mayweather in that's he's a great boxer and very good defensively but not that exciting to watch.

I've got 3-0 as well and can easily see more. Could be a bloodbath depending on which Leeds team turn up and given that Newcastle have been stuffing teams by 3 or 4 goals.


You don't need the app; they have a browser site as well. Just put them in well in advance or just get in a routine of doing them every Monday or Friday or whatever day your prefer. It seems a lot of people have been forgetting with the World Cup and probably busy with the holidays. I almost forgot to do mine last round and this one. Just done them now.

Even if there wasn't a war going on it's very unlikely to be held in Ukraine. These mega fights are usually either in the UK, US, or the middle east. When you've got a big British fighter the logical place is to do it in the UK so you can have that massive gate and inf ront of fans, but the middle east also practically being in the same time zone is another option since they often pay 5x the amount they'd get elsewhere and that makes up for the loss in ticket sales. Fury can't go to the USA yet either unless he gets his visa situation sorted so this fight will either be in London or Abu Dhabi. Given the amount of money Fury is gonna be wanting the latter seems more likely. They should probably try get two fights sorted and both parties will probably want a rematch so do one home and abroad.

It'll almost certainly happen. They seem to have agreed terms in principle and now just have to decide on the venue/county. It's the biggest fight for both of them and I think it's the first time in 20 years that the opportunity to become undisputed champion has been there so they'd be stupid to not get this fight over the line. I'm sure they're trying to wrangle as much money out of the Middle East as possible which is probably the only reason pen hasn't been put to paper yet. The only thing that could hold it up is both fighters mandatory bouts which will be enforced if they don't get this thing signed and officially done soon. I don't think either party will be as stupid to throw away this opportunity over greed.

Payments have been sent now. Thanks everyone for participating and massive thanks to jeremypwr and Sportsbet for hooking us up with the sponsorship. Without them this pool wouldn't be anywhere near as fun.

I will leave this thread open until the end of the year and then I'll probably lock it if it hasn't already died before then.



The PL pool is so long that you can slowly climb up the leader board over time. You don't need to do amazing just be consistent with slightly above average scores and you will crawl up the table. The world cup you can't afford to be average as the competition is so short. I started off pretty badly but moved up the table in the knockout stages but wasn't enough to grab a paid place (though I wasn't far off in the end but it's so close that you need every point you can get).

I will send the payments out ASAP but no later than over the weekend. Just waiting for 2 more people to send me their addresses.


Well there's nothing you can do if you're not in the PL pool other than wait for the Euros in two years  . Hopefully these tournaments keep growing and we can have huge jackpot one day. I'd love to aim for something like a whole bitcoin for first place eventually but we'd need a lot of players. I'm happy if we can get 50 each season now like we have done for both this and the last PL one. Each pool has grown by at least ten players so we might get there eventually.


Not bad for a 50 usd fee. That's what I like about these pools as it's a small fee for essentially a month or even a whole seasons worth of entertainment without breaking the bank or causing anyone to chase their loses.

He's like a diet version right now. The paddy hype train will derail very quickly if he starts losing and even more so if he keeps acting like a cunt. He's got that lovable rouge thing going on so he can get away with running his mouth more than others but that will quickly go if he starts to piss off his fans. His attitude and sucking up to Dana was embarrassing in the lead up to this fight. If the money goes to his head he'll lose a lot of respect. He's got the underdog spirit and working classes on his side right now but if he starts flashing the cash McGregor style he'll quickly become unrelatable. He's already been promoting some blatant rip off Prime Energy drink and now won't do interviews unless its on his own terms and if he becomes one of those people who will promote anything or will only do something for a quick buck he'll quickly lose support. Personally I hope he simmers down, admits that his last fight was at least very close and he can bounce back. I don't think Dana is going to give him any challenges though for his next fight or so so it looks like we'll be seeing him against bums until he shows some promise in the octagon. Without backing up his brand in the ring he'll quickly become an embarrassment if all his hype comes down to social media. I'm not sure how much of his hype if from fair-weather fans who will move onto the next hype train once it crashes.