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2041  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help, I think i lost some BTC on: August 25, 2011, 05:14:17 PM
Its at 92905 blocks right now, but only showing 3 transactions, there should be 4.
then WAIT!!!

the transaction is not broadcasted anylonger, when its included in a block. just wait for that block to be downloaded.

most problem with bitcoin transactions are sloved by waiting.
2042  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WARNING: Bitparking.com may be steeling Bitcoins... on: August 25, 2011, 05:06:09 PM
why is people first reaction is "they stole it"

teh guy charges a fee on both sides of the trade

He DOESNT need to steal your coins
and how many did you have 1000 coins?
oh wait.. less than 5? and you are going to say he might have stolen your 5 coins?

perhaps their is a reason you are in the newbie section and perhaps you need to stay a bit longer.

DoubleC is very active in the community and very easy to talk to, and fixes people shit more times than he can count.

next time.. say something like .. "something went wrong with my bitcoins coming from bitparking"

START off assuming bug, and not "might be stealing"
fee? no fee involved here....?

ya post taste fail?
2043  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WARNING: Bitparking.com may be steeling Bitcoins... on: August 25, 2011, 04:57:46 PM
Edit: and kokjo said the same thing while I was typing Tongue Damn you for being brief!
you dont need all that long text... Tongue
2044  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WARNING: Bitparking.com may be steeling Bitcoins... on: August 25, 2011, 04:46:32 PM
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/#dcdfbf985b7ea21c276cf01b93abd134fa503c66df2e732573efa6b0277a1e82

it just unconfirmed...
2045  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WARNING: Bitparking.com Steels Bitcoins... on: August 25, 2011, 04:16:44 PM
Yes,

I also notice that it did not list my withdrawal under 'pending bitcoin withdrawals'.
have you comfirmed the withdraw?
2046  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WARNING: Bitparking.com Steels Bitcoins... on: August 25, 2011, 04:11:51 PM
Recently was trading some solidcoins for Bitcoins.  When i went to withdrawal them they disappeared completely.  I triple checked that the address was correct.  The withdrawal disappeared from their site and i have no record of it in my wallet.  My coins are gone.
wait... wait... wait...
have you downloaded the chain?
2047  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to sell your coins and how NOT on: August 25, 2011, 04:01:58 PM
why is that the right way?
2048  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CONFIRMED] Australian Bitcoin Conference/Expo on: August 23, 2011, 06:03:26 PM
do get publicity!!!!

50% of the time dedicated to preparing for the conference should entail gathering media attention.  I mean like 100-200 hours of pure commitment to this and this alone.

For sure - anyone with experience handling the media that would like to volunteer some time would be appreciated -even to give us less experienced ppl with the time some tips/info? I have tried emailing AU media outlets in the past and go zero responses.

The more of a "community" project this is the stronger it will be, so far everyone involved is a volunteer Cheesy
do some stunts!! give away bitcoins, make a lottery(100x1btc, 10x10btc, 200bitcoin total, or something). make some noise, on other forums, asking people: "are you comming to the bitcoin expo in australia?"

even tv ads maybe.

just do something!! Smiley

Good Ideas, except TV Ads are just way too expensive for marketing unless someone has a spare $100,000 to $200,000 for the TV campaigns. I am sure we will get the right Audiences and also Media through our online ways, and contacts etc. I am looking very forward to the Event!
i know it was unrealistic. but you know, just had to suggest it. Smiley

sadly i can't come... i don't have the money, unless the price is going up to around $150
2049  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CONFIRMED] Australian Bitcoin Conference/Expo on: August 23, 2011, 05:23:18 PM
do get publicity!!!!

50% of the time dedicated to preparing for the conference should entail gathering media attention.  I mean like 100-200 hours of pure commitment to this and this alone.

For sure - anyone with experience handling the media that would like to volunteer some time would be appreciated -even to give us less experienced ppl with the time some tips/info? I have tried emailing AU media outlets in the past and go zero responses.

The more of a "community" project this is the stronger it will be, so far everyone involved is a volunteer Cheesy
do some stunts!! give away bitcoins, make a lottery(100x1btc, 10x10btc, 200bitcoin total, or something). make some noise, on other forums, asking people: "are you comming to the bitcoin expo in australia?"

even tv ads maybe.

just do something!! Smiley
2050  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CONFIRMED] Australian Bitcoin Conference/Expo on: August 23, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
good! 'couse Bruce's conferance, did get about none Smiley
hope you people gets more Smiley
2051  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CONFIRMED] Australian Bitcoin Conference/Expo on: August 23, 2011, 03:54:36 PM
do get publicity!!!!
2052  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
your claim is WRONG.
no. people are stupid and naive
2053  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 05:05:14 PM
Food rating agencies didn't emerge because there is no market for them.  Food safety law is not some kind of power grab; its a response to a complex problem that had to be addressed by the state after people realised they were being poisoned and demanded protection.



im not demanding protection.
2054  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 04:18:18 PM
If I recall correctly, food was very unsafe in the early industrial revolution, prior to regulation. Why didn't food rating agencies spring up then? Not enough internet? A conspiracy to stop them? Not enough time for the market to adjust? Since the government does an imperfect job of protecting the food supply, do any such rating agencies exist already?

The theory makes perfect sense to me, so now I wonder why it has not already happened.
1. its likely because, the workers was getting exploited by the capitalism. their did not have time for considring food safety.
2. likely... its easier to communicate over large distance, with the internet. and there by organizing alot more
3. sure, it must be the evil food companies.
4. ...
5. i don't know.
2055  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 04:12:48 PM

corrupt rating agencies would not work. if the rating agencies are wrong they lose trust.

Yea like S&P.  They nearly destroyed the world with their horrifically wrong CDO ratings and now no one listens to them anymore... oh wait...


Being idealistic is great, but being realistic is better.
i don't listen to them. Smiley im realistic.
people that is wroking with money, are stupid, and often big risk takers. they should be in a casino instead.

The fact that you don't listen to them is irrelevant.  The rest of the world still does and they're still alive and thriving.  That means your theory that people will shun these poor raters en masse and make them go out of business is obviously bunk.  You're going to have to come up with another method to deal with poor or corrupt ratings agencies.
no i don't have to come up with anything. i don't trust them, and i did not lose anything. its not my problem.
if STUPID people are listning to corrupt rating agencies, its totaly free for them to do that.
2056  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 03:56:46 PM

corrupt rating agencies would not work. if the rating agencies are wrong they lose trust.

Yea like S&P.  They nearly destroyed the world with their horrifically wrong CDO ratings and now no one listens to them anymore... oh wait...


Being idealistic is great, but being realistic is better.
i don't listen to them. Smiley im realistic.
people that is wroking with money, are stupid, and often big risk takers. they should be in a casino instead.
2057  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
...snip...
Pollution and food safety isn't even ensured now with overreaching regulation. I guess the only answer is more state mandates.

Your concept fails to count for history and the fact that pure control doesn't work. The desire for a clean environment and safe food comes from the very people that need them. Not from authority.


Last time I looked there is very little pollution and food poisoning due to retail food is very rare.  So the existing system works fine.  Hugolp wants to replace this with some wishy-washy communal inspection system which will have zero enforcement power.  That cannot work.

I agree with you that the  desire for a clean environment and safe food comes from the very people that need them.  Where we differ is that you believe that if Shell develops a marine resource offshore, Shell owns that area and it free to pollute it.


you have still not justifyed why they need to have enforcement power.
they need no enforcement power. think of it as some sort of rating agency, but for food instead of finacial assets.

I agree kokjo.  Libertarians that move from enforcement to relying on a rating agency type system ignore the fact that rating agencies are easy to corrupt. Because they compete for clients, they can't really slam the clients.

A rating agency type inspection system is sensible if there is an enforcement agency that can sack corrupted rating agents and processes companies that take advantage of the corrupted rating agents.  But that requires a state.
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corrupt rating agencies would not work. if the rating agencies are wrong they lose trust.
2058  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 03:05:36 PM
...snip...
Pollution and food safety isn't even ensured now with overreaching regulation. I guess the only answer is more state mandates.

Your concept fails to count for history and the fact that pure control doesn't work. The desire for a clean environment and safe food comes from the very people that need them. Not from authority.


Last time I looked there is very little pollution and food poisoning due to retail food is very rare.  So the existing system works fine.  Hugolp wants to replace this with some wishy-washy communal inspection system which will have zero enforcement power.  That cannot work.

I agree with you that the  desire for a clean environment and safe food comes from the very people that need them.  Where we differ is that you believe that if Shell develops a marine resource offshore, Shell owns that area and it free to pollute it.


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you have still not justifyed why they need to have enforcement power.
they need no enforcement power. think of it as some sort of rating agency, but for food instead of finacial assets.
2059  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 22, 2011, 08:15:32 AM
Shell would be very unhappy if there was no government to bail them out from their accidents as opposed to having to pay up when they pollute people's property. They would be bankrupt in the latter scenario.

Government enables horrible disasters. In this case, it happens that things are minor and it would be better to avoid confrontation altogether.

Surely the libertarian position is that Shell owns the sea it is drilling under?  No-one else owns it and its worthless without Shell drilling there.  In a libertarian paradise,  its Shell's property and its no-one else's business what they do there.  So Shell can pollute all it wants.
OMG you are just too stupid. narrow minded, and plain dumb! troll go away!

if they are polluting the ocean with oil. the oil are oing to sail away! into other people property.
if they keep the oil spills on their property, its fine with me. but when they are polluting my property, im(and many others) going to sue them

2060  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian Anticapitalism on: August 21, 2011, 04:59:32 PM

Food safety is easily accomplished without state action - how? explanation needed


20 people eat poisened food from company A(by mistake).
20 people gets sick
30000 people are seeing this 20 getting sick, from food poisened.
30000 people decides(indevidualy) not to buy from company A.
company A is screwed.
other companies B-Z are realizing, its stupid to poisen their food.

no need for governement action. no need to force any one to anything.
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