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buyer beware. do your research. If he took your btc and did not give your access to the account. He's a scammer. If he took your BTC and gave you access to the account, you are just stupid.
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For a while there I thought this thread was the big boys' board until two started calling each other idiots. Most of the "ECB paper" threads have sparked a vigorous, enlightened if not at times contentious debate which I thik is great. You both have valid points. I just don't think its necessary to start degrading the conversation with the name calling.
Thanks
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The investigation is non-public so there is no way to be certain. Some members has posted that they were interviewed. But I'm afraid many more gave info anonymously which can not be used bring charges. And many more victims refuse to come forward for fear of exposing themselves to additional, unknown legal exposure and there is nothing anyone else can do about it. So game (has been) over, Trendon Shavors (has already) won.
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Magad
Could you explain? I have heard form more the a few users that GPUMax was a great resource.
Thanks.
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What you guys are discussing is called securities fraud in the United States. This is exactly what the US SEC is investigating. Unfortunately Trendon and the pass throughs who may or may not have colluded with Trendon Shavors will probably walk as the word is no one is talking SEC. And without witnesses the investigation will not lead to charges and game over you lose. You are the suckers left holding the worthless investment and who ever defrauded you gets off free. That how is works. So do something about or stop wining about it on this board.
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Wells Fargo p2p max is 750
Instant transfer
Instant delivery of BTC
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how many do you need
price is MT GOX LAST +5%
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Boussac and hazak
I think your effort to argue that "legal tender" fiat is also "virtual currency" is confusing the issue.
If bitcoin and fiat are both virtual currencies then the only distinction is: one is government backed 'legal tender' and the other is not.
"Legal tender" laws are nothing more than regulation. As regulation always protects the incumbents, it's easy to see how legal tender laws, despite their claimed purpose, have the actual effect of eliminating competition. again PLEASE design your terms. Is legal tender a "law" enacted by congress or parliament or is it a "regulation" defined by a Federal/National Government Agency or is it a "ruling" or "interpretation" defined by a high court. |
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BTC buyers don't have to trust PP. They just need a verified PP account and a mobile phone for verification. I take the risk as I'm selling non-reversible BTC for reversible PP. Thus the 5% fee for the cost of assuming that risk.
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Boussac and hazak
I think your effort to argue that "legal tender" fiat is also "virtual currency" is confusing the issue.
If bitcoin and fiat are both virtual currencies then the only distinction is: one is government backed 'legal tender' and the other is not.
I am afraid I have to stand by what I said: the distinction is NOT along the "virtual" line as bankers would like to make people believe but along the centralized vs decentralized divide. Bitcoin is a decentralized P2P currency while the Euro belongs to the same "centralized" category as Linden Dollars, Frequent Flyer Miles or Facebook credits. The word "virtual" is meant to hide the fact that central currencies are backed just by the people using them, like any other currency. So then the operative word for bitcoin must be "decentralized" currency. |
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+1 gibbyd-btc
PPUSD -> BTC
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I sell bitcoin for PPUSD Mt. Gox Last +5%
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4.6 BTC
you can send pp to the same em address and POST or PM btc address.
Thanks.
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Sure
Send btc to
1GncpDZP3kq8cPffNjKfjrXQQwDYExz7Zt
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@ Grinder this is continuation:
bitcoin is way more real than FIAT money.
I wouldn't use "virtual" at all, because it implies "not really existing, just hot air".
** I dont' agree as virtual just means it exists but not in a physical sense.
the Euro is neither "real" nor is it "money".
*** this is where I have a problem You can make that statement but unless you clearly and simply explain it the "average Joe" is going to think you are a "neerdy Bitcoin Supporter". As far as they "average joe" is concerned their dollars and euros may be devalued by inflation, but they can still use them to PAY TAXES and buy stuff.
There is no way you're going to be able to convice average Joe about this, though, and it's not really important at all.
Nitpicking on issues like this will make Bitcoin supporters look unnecessarily nerdy, and lower the chances of convincing the public that Bitcoin is a good idea.
***Again I'm not nitpinking, I'm saying we have to clearly and simply define our terms so as the a broader media and public discovers Bitcoin we have a clear defininton of:
1. what it is
2. How is it different
Or else those terms will be defined for us by a misinformed or even hostile media/governments
Instead we should just use terms like this in the way other people are most likely to understand, and focus on what Bitcoin can do better than other currencies.
***YES!
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