I was wondering if a bit of DRK money would start coming into SDC. I can see it already has  Impressive. Bought a few as well  |
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The fucking price talk again? Dude, take a look at bitcoin's price. We all know this is not about Darkcoin. When bitcoin tanks, it affects all coins. Not sure what's worse, accepting Darkcoin is dependent on Bitcoin or ignoring the extremely low trading volume of Darkcoin. Last 24 hours: Bitcoin - $15 million Litecoin - $2.3 million Dogecoin - $18 million Peercoin - $100,000 Darkcoin... $30,000 Fuck the price, that can go up or down easily. Low trading volume is the real worry. Means no one wants it/is using it Low volume is a result of the post-Mintpal situation as most trades were @ Mintpal and DRK was the highest-volume coin there (excluding random spikes from various coins). The DRK market needs to find equilibrium through the use of new exchanges but it will take time. |
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Too much bashing on crypto, but the real problem is the ADD of "investors". Crypto profits have been significant but it all depends on entry points.
BTC exactly one year ago was like what? <200$... and two years ago it was <11$. Who's gonna give such profits? The stock market? Gold/Silver? Bonds?
Likewise DRK investors of Feb-April (prices at 0.001x BTC), which is a large part of the community, are now 4-5x on their money. (January investors are way higher than that)
And these rises are despite adverse environmental conditions, fud, trolling, large scale scams with exchanges, negative news, etc etc (that apply to both btc and drk - to varying degrees of course).
I think we are doing pretty well considering what's going on. And if one trades their way the profits may have been higher. The problem is probably for those who make unsuccessful trades or those with high entry points compared to a corrected value - which might seem like the end of the world. But crypto in general is not thaaaat bad.
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I haven't replied here in a while because the signal-to-noise ratio is really low in here (where "noise" includes things like trash talking me and speculation on the price). If you said something addressed at me here, I probably didn't read it. PM me if it's important. Yes, estimating the time to complete software is not my strong suit, but that is a difficult problem in any case. The fact remains that I have worked hard on this and will continue to do so. I am not aware of any other developers who have made nearly as much progress (judging by public commits) in adding zero-knowledge cryptography to cryptocurrency. As for ShadowCoin, I looked at their code briefly and did not see a single commit related to this; sure, they might be keeping all the development secret, but "talk is cheap". If you look at Github, you'll see that I did more than talk.  Anyway, I am now thinking it is better to have a series of testnets with gradually increasing Zerocoin functionality, rather than a single one with all the functionality as I originally planned. I'll set a date for the first one when I am actually code complete. You can think of these as "milestones" for completion. As for the wild oscillations in difficulty, I am working with two other people on our IRC to get this resolved. Do you have any reason why only 2 days before a release date you had to extend it 2-3 months? It's hard to understand why that announcement couldn't have happened earlier rather than misleading investors. First, let me say that software estimation is a notoriously hard problem. I'm not saying I couldn't have done better -- I could have. Basically up until a few weeks ago, I was working mostly with libzerocoin, which is code I understood really well. I was giving completion estimates based on my (relatively fast) progress with that. Then, I had to switch to working with the wallet's code itself, and that is far more complicated. By the time I became aware of how much more time it would take, it was only a few days before the testnet release deadline. There may have been some wishful thinking going on too, which I didn't catch because all my thoughts were taken up with how to solve the problems at hand. 2-3 days to 2-3 months is a very "problematic" miscalculation, no matter how you see it. Investment wise? "This is ridiculous" -> DUMP Confidence wise? "If the dev can't tell if it takes 2-3 days or 2-3 months, then he is either a liar/scammer/pumper or totally incompetent" I have ANCs from back in the day when ANC and DRK were the only players around in the anon industry (DRK as main, ANC as hedge) and I'm loosely following ANC for this reason throughout the months, but, seriously, the "I miscalculated" angle can't be digested  |
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and then write a 5 sentence guide of my own... ;-)
"Don't be an idiot and you'll be just fine"  |
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Can we get a statement from MintPal founders (Jay or Jason) regarding the sale transaction and how it was paid (MintPal's users BTC?) ?
They should be more cooperative. It was their decision to sell the exchange to a scammer and put their users at risk. Moreover, if they were paid from MintPal's users balances that makes them a part of the crime.
+1 (!!) Well, even if they weren't paid from the balances, it's a shitty situation. If one can spend say 1000 BTC to acquire an exchange which has 10.000 BTCs in it, they can then use the 10k BTC to nullify the buying costs and then keep 9k BTC for profit. It's insane. |
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AlexGR ...hmmmm ... LOL ... what an unfortunate nick you have right now LOL Indeed... I'll need to update the signature or something to "I'm not Alex Green" |
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0.2 BTC... I was actually somewhat lucky as I had withdrawn BTC & DRK when they came back up with v2... then saw some cheap DRKs being dumped and deposited 0.2 BTC to see if I can buy them or they are just for show. They were just for show as the orders weren't going through... tried to withdraw the 0.2 BTC and it disappeared, and then Mintpal came down the same day.
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LOL!! Well done... Hilarious! I'm still laughing, aahahahah epic |
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People still seems to sell DRK on MP , even at a very low price arnd 0.005 , can't do good on the overall price
Very low volume can't affect price... Mintpal only has 10 BTC on the drk market over 24 hours when cryptsy is doing 225 btc. |
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At least no one is getting any coins into exchanges to dump!!
The bright side of very high diff raping situation, lol... |
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Why was there a need for Mintpal V2 anyway?  |
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Idiots...
Seriously. What are you trying to say? Kristov did a code review. He highlighted some issues, he pointed them out and Evan fixed the vast majority. This guy found something Kristov missed. He tried to exploit it, but the whole thing can be seen on the network. Within a relatively short period of time, he was spotted. 24hrs later a patch is applied around the network. He has identified one exploit. It was closed. It won't be exploited again. It could also highlight other areas that are related that could be worked on. The guy said he was going to donate his winnings. The project is stronger than it was two days ago. This is a small win. Plus, I want to emphasize this again, it's irrational to expect one set of eyes to discover every conceivable bug or exploit that might be contained in thousands of lines of code. If it were that easy to avoid vulnerabilities + bugs by just doing a code review, every single piece of software would be ok with a code review by one man - and nothing else would ever be needed. It would attain bulletproof status from that review alone. But this is not reality, this is fantasy. That's why operating systems go out and they are being patched for years and years for their minor and major bugs. It's not like the code hasn't been checked internally. It's just that there are a lot of stuff happening that can be overlooked. Linux's bash shell was bugged and nobody realized it for a veeeery long time. Multiple sets of eyes are always better and that's why OS is better (plus it's trustless, as you don't have to trust the dev that he has put something in there that is weird). And yet, even a large number of people looking at the code can't ensure safety right away - it takes time. Take the Monero overflow bug that was executed a few weeks ago that nobody saw coming. Monero has a lot of devs, it has hired cryptographers and experts to review the code, yet it happened. And after BCX threatened to kill the coin, a lot of brainstorming took place on what could be another possible exploit and some things like anonymity vulnerabilities under certain scenarios also came up through the brainstorming process. |
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just wondering.... wasn't the code just reviewed by what's his face?
A code review, especially by one person, cannot uncover every conceivable bug or exploit. The list of K.A. was quite extensive on possible attack vectors (and Evan took pre-emptive / corrective action on some of them). But that doesn't change the fact that the more eyes on the code, the better chances there are to uncover issues. |
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Okay you caught me. Big fucking deal. 90% of the people posting are using multiple accounts and you know it.
But I see that you're trying to change the subject.
The subject is YOU ARE A TROLL and the discussion ends there. Other than that, it's normal programming as usual. You make something, you patch the bugs that appear, you move on. Predictable stuff. As far as there is no fundamental problem (and there isn't) a project is ok. If for every bug that occurred a coin was dead, then Bitcoin should have died a long time ago - back in the era of producing millions of coins. As if YOU have the final say. Too funny. Now listen up alex. You are nothing more than a darkcoin bagholder and it's human nature that you would lash out at someone like me for exposing the thing that you hold dearly as the scam that it is. So because of that I forgive you for any past, present, and future attacks on me. Now lets not make this about me. Lets talk about that recent darkcoin exploit. This is the darkcoin thread now isn't it? You are a sad troll that makes tens of sockpuppet accounts with language variations to spice it up and make it seem "legit". Who in their right mind would waste their day, creating multiple accounts, posting multiple threads and posts, just to TROLL a coin? You are either the biggest loser alive, or have financial interest in doing this. As for the exploit: Exploits like these, as far as I'm concerned, are predictable. You can't have 100% hardening from day one - whether we are talking about server software, banking software, cryptographic software, cryptocurrency software etc. It requires multiple attack vectors to be deployed and dealt with / patched. |
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Okay you caught me. Big fucking deal. 90% of the people posting are using multiple accounts and you know it.
But I see that you're trying to change the subject.
The subject is YOU ARE A TROLL and the discussion ends there. Other than that, it's normal programming as usual. You make something, you patch the bugs that appear, you move on. Predictable stuff. As far as there is no fundamental problem (and there isn't) a project is ok. If for every bug that occurred a coin was dead, then Bitcoin should have died a long time ago - back in the era of producing millions of coins. |
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I believe there are few pending issues, like the MN payment protocol which can be improved upon and we'll also have to see how the DarkSend operation withstands tampering attacks of the software, which will now be open-source. This could uncover a few bugs down the line.
Bumping myself |
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Any ideas how we re-send emails that were supposed to be sent but never arrived?
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