You might want to move this thread to the correct section.
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Also the 3D MACD is due to cross today aswell.
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Just wait until the new fiat hits the exchanges as theres been no deposits for four days. I think its quiet bullish that we maintained the price we did.
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When we gonna have never voting poll? :-) current one is out of date ... :-)
Im sure Adam will come and change it once he's done eating all his easter eggs ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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We must be bored if we're fretting over 5% price movements ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Im thinking of joining, Im gonna be free more, could use this since I love chatting at forums
Okay, then post you current post count and address and join, this thread is for joining and keeping up with the campaign not just generally chatting ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I stopped using Hotmail since Gmail introduced 2FA.
Not a fan of their scanning all emails though ...
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A friend of mine recently had his account accessed from various places and his password reset. Took him weeks to get control of his account back.
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To quit firstly you have to want to. Secondly just stop! It sounds hard but its the easiest way, after a week it gets a whole lot easier. No need for rehab its not crack we're talking about!
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I am waiting to see how the "reported" volume on huobi will change. If there will be no change there will be a lot of people who will ask themselves why did the the price drop based on the so called china ban.
And until know it seems the volume is untouched.
I thought we were working on the presumption that the majority of the volume is fake anyway ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Alt coins are a horrible way to use BTC to net more BTC, you could miss a good upswing.
Especially doge which creates billions of coins per day killing the value over time.
The best way to use BTC and keep your BTC while netting more BTC is via BitFinex...though I should not reveal this because the more people willing to loan BTC, the lower the return. That is probably why nobody else mentioned it.
Risk: You have to keep your bitcoins on the BitFinex website. After over a year, they are fairly trustworthy. However, the safest place is always in your cold storage.
How would you miss a BTC upswing if your trading an alt which means an alt/btc pair?
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I have been there myself. Very nice food ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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This weekend has played out exactly as I thought it would, no real volume no real price movements it was to be expected with a large amount of people on public holidays and generally seeing family etc.
My personal opinion is that with some new fiat on tuesday we could see a little rally especially with Bitstamp having deposits backed up.
Everyones been wondering what happens to Chinese exchanges now but I think we're already starting to see it. Fact is deposits are very hard if not impossible now and the loss of liquidity is real rather than 'priced in ' by traders. If these price levels can be maintained while coins flow back over to the west its a positive sign for me.
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Well my opinion is a slow drop in to the lower double digits over the course of 2014, and probably through 2015. Looks like a sinking ship to me. I've been pretty bullish mid term in the past but with the whole Gox ordeal, my opinion is that its GG for bitcoin.
I very much doubt we will be seeing double digits and certainly over such an extended period of time what is it about the gox ordeal that will still bring the price down ?
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By the way, the MtGOX heist must have been the largest single digital theft of all time, not just of bitcoin. Is that true? I cannot even imagine how a hacker could steal 300 million old-fashioned dollars from a company, and walk away with it.
I don't know. Was it a single theft? Have you heard more about it than the rest of us? It seems to me that t here's a lot of information still to come out and Karpeles is a compulsive serial liar. Some of these theories about US Govt involvement also seem very plausible - especially when dealing with a bunch of dweebs like Karpeles.. Potentially, he would have been vulnerable to various US Govt manipulations - which can be very tricky given all the Shenanigans with NSA and problems with the dollar, etc. etc. etc. We need to know the date of the theft to be able to put a dollar value on it ? Only then can it be considered the largest digital theft...
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Who's to say that the other 650,000 weren't stolen in 2011 and sold then and is one of the reasons for the long bear market that year? If you stole 650,000 coins when they were worth a dollar or two, would you really be able to not hav spent or cashed in on any until now? Just speculation obviously.
How could they be sold on Gox in 2011? Wouldn't the thief(s) be identifiable through blockchain forensics and have their trading accounts closed? It just doesn't make much sense. IMO, the 2011 downtrend looked more like people just being worried that they invested in hot air as bitcoin wasn't useful for much back then. Didn't need to be sold on Gox or instantly. One theory could be that Mark sold the coins back then for cash knowing that more bit coins were com in in all the time. The cash was maybe to be used legitimately for improving the business or the general Bitcoin eco system but as the price bubbled again he couldn't buy all the coins back. As beens said we won't know the full story for a while if ever but with the evidence we've been shown nothing should be discounted.
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currently 478$ on bitstamp what happend to BTC again its quite depresseing seeing this huge changes from 530$ to its current price
50$ aren't really huge changes, you should of learned so far that bitcoin is extremly volatile ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) besides we're back at 500 and in 3% daily growth today ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Just sit back, and check the bitcoin price once a month ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's hard when my wallet tells me the price constantly! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Sometime you gotta just switch off from it all for a day or two, feels good!
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We need more two way bitcoin atms. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) May be. But need to make them simple to use, so that common people may be able to use them. I have seen some of the videos of the Bitcoin ATMs. It seems that only the tech savvy might be able to use them. The issues with ATM's are more to do with KYC/AML compliance than actual usability from what I've seen.
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I think 400 is more likely, I fear the mtgox coins will be sold.
But as some say, when is hype, sell, and when fear, buy.
Gox coins won't be sold for a while so I wouldn't factor that into your short term predictions. To OP who knows all it takes is another China FUD bomb and the sheep will panic. The charts and sentiment are both becoming more bullish by the day though. This sounds about right. Remember, though, that there are two large stashes of Gox coins: the 200,000 that were "found" and the 650,000 that were stolen. Who knows what the plan is for the latter. Who's to say that the other 650,000 weren't stolen in 2011 and sold then and is one of the reasons for the long bear market that year? If you stole 650,000 coins when they were worth a dollar or two, would you really be able to not hav spent or cashed in on any until now? Just speculation obviously.
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He did say digital theft?
Exactly, that's the point, he compares bitcoin with credit card fraud or other currency issues, blah blah blah. However in this case the 'heist' must be 'digital', since otherwise his argument is not valid. Jorge, the phony imposter professor with a fake phd does that all the time. I see what you mean, admittedly didn't read the whole discussion. A good point was made before though in terms of exactly when gox was 'robbed' in the future if BTC is $10,000 a piece will the heist have a dollar value of $7,500,000,000?
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