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1481  Other / Off-topic / Re: FIFA World Cup 2014!!! on: May 24, 2014, 04:47:55 PM
Edit: Nate Silver projected the odds of advancement as Germany 93%, Portugal 40%, USA 39%, Ghana 29%. All is not lost.

Portugal and USA at almost the same odds? I really doubt that. It is true that the Portuguese depends too much on Christiano Ronaldo. But even the one-man army is enough to kick the US out of the group stage. My odds of advancement will be:

Germany: 90%
Portugal: 70%
USA: 30%
Ghana: 10%

Yeah gotta agree with that. CR on a good day can single handedly beat teams, we've seen it before and we'll see it again.
1482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 24, 2014, 04:46:13 PM
in spirit of cooperation;

I see many posts: how many coins with such and such hashing power. How much hashing am i expected to get with such and such cpu.

Could we see a post. monero hashing build. most hasing for under under 500 dollars, 1000 dollars, and 2 thousand dollars.
seems some people may convert some of their earning into machins and improve their hashing performance.
i see this as a good thing as it secures the network. pulls hashing away from those already domminant in the field.

can we do this in a windows and ubuntu estimations. as such this will allow new investors to start mining. the reason I say this i have some friends that are in the market for upgrading computers and I was asked this question and I can not answer it.

thank you for those that will take this post seriously.

Its a cpu only coin, there's not really $1000 or $2000 spec machines, its simply how many cpu's you can get your hands on.

Granted it would possibly be useful to produce a list of CPU's and their expected hashing power on either OS so that you could choose which CPU's to buy to mine this coin but at this stage I would be very surprised to see people building $2000 set ups to mine MRO, you may as well use AWS/Azure and the like.

The other issue is that the miners are being constantly updated and there is also more than one miner so you can see how this starts to become a lot of work to put together. Thats also besides the fact that you can't trust just one person saying they are getting x speed without some proof so again it becomes a huge task.

Hope this helps.
1483  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ HIGHEST SIGNATURE PAYMENT ON THE BOARD - UPDATED - RitzGrandCasino.com ★★★ on: May 24, 2014, 04:39:55 PM
No payment or unnecessary cutting of posts its almost the same thing if the cutting of posts is not justified. Regardless, if you've been posting constructive meaningful entries you should have nothing to worry about anyway.

No doubt Ritz is saying that so that people don't think they can spam a quick 500 posts and make some extra money is all, Ritz is just throwing it out there. If people aren't paid correctly it's not like they are going to shut up about it so for what maybe 1-2 BTC its very unlikely Ritz will screw someone over.

Why do we have to defame and produce conspiracies for no reason. All Ritz said is they will still check on posts, why would they not still check on posts. If you were running the campaign would you announce your winding down the campaign and then not check on peoples posts? Just such childish behaviour, burning people at the stake with no evidence at all.

Granted come the end of the month if all is not okay you will hear about it, until then lets leave the pitchforks at home.
1484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
Lmao.. someone just ate the whole 300btc wall on Stamp.  One click.
Its dinner time in the UK  Wink

nom nom nom, looks like a market buy as well rather than a bidder removing a bid and market buying seeing as the bid depth hasn't changed at all so not like someone just got impatient.
1485  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Post Removed by RitzGrandCasino on: May 24, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
No payment or unnecessary cutting of posts its almost the same thing if the cutting of posts is not justified. Regardless, if you've been posting constructive meaningful entries you should have nothing to worry about anyway.

No doubt Ritz is saying that so that people don't think they can spam a quick 500 posts and make some extra money is all, Ritz is just throwing it out there. If people aren't paid correctly it's not like they are going to shut up about it so for what maybe 1-2 BTC its very unlikely Ritz will screw someone over.

Why do we have to defame and produce conspiracies for no reason. All Ritz said is they will still check on posts, why would they not still check on posts. If you were running the campaign would you announce your winding down the campaign and then not check on peoples posts? Just such childish behaviour, burning people at the stake with no evidence at all.

Granted come the end of the month if all is not okay you will hear about it, until then lets leave the pitchforks at home. 
1486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 24, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
I have started mining few hours ago, when can i expect first payment?

If you are solo mining it is completely down to your hashing power when you can expect on average to be paid. If your mining in a pool however obviously that pool needs to find a block and then it needs to mature for I think 60 confirms.
1487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2014, 04:21:35 PM
Weekend dip it is then...
Not to worry look at the 1 week chart and how different it looks to the other flash recoveries.

Also look at the cup and handle that could be perfectly forming on the one day. If that completes with a drop to $505ish on mon/tue I may even be tempted with my first long.
1488  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ HIGHEST SIGNATURE PAYMENT ON THE BOARD - UPDATED - RitzGrandCasino.com ★★★ on: May 24, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
Surprised to see you just shut it down, even if you didn't want to compete in this sig bidding war Im sure people would stick due to the automatic payouts and trust you've built up for yourself. Either way thanks for running the campaign and thanks for 3-4 months worth of a more than fair partnership.
1489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2014, 12:51:48 PM

Wow. Looks like Jorge was right all along... we went up without a sufficient cause, hence we're now going down again. Probably all the way to 300.

Short all the Bitcoins!

/s

Thanks for the morning chuckle!

I have no plans on trading this its far too risky on both sides of the fence. It helps that my last all in was a fair few dollars ago so have no need to worry.

Nice support has been building back to $500 and it looks fairly organic, not just one big wall.



I think its safe to leave the charts for the weekend and just have a price alarm set. Enjoy your bank holidays (if your in the UK)!
1490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 23, 2014, 11:08:08 PM
all of a sudden any time i try to connect cpuminer-multi to minergate i get this error.. over and over


getwork failed, retry after 10 seconds


any one else having this issue??

Try one of the open source pools in the OP.
1491  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 11:04:18 PM
Anecdote != data.  

So my annecdotal case != data.

Your annecdotal case(s) == data.

Sure. Sounds fair. /s


I repeat my main points one more time, then I'm going to duck out of this discussion:

1) It's anal KYC procedure, NOT a  solvency related withdrawal problem like in gox' case. Let's make sure to let the newbies that read along here know that difference.

2) The biggest problem I see so far is that Bitstamp didn't announce this change in procedure BEFOREHAND. I agree with Blitz that this is shitty behavior.

3) What could in principle be an actual problem of gox-ian proportions if they would require proof that users can't reasonably provide. So far, after having read mentions of the KYC procedure around 40 times (my ballpark guess) in the past months, I have /today/ heard the first time of unnecessary proof being required (in the reddit thread). That's 1 out of 40 cases (from my own perspective) and it doesn't exactly make me jump to the conclusion that Bitstamp asks for this regularly now.

Well I'm discussing the topic either way not saying they are definitely not asking for proof which is the whole issue.

1)how many times does someone have to say we're not saying they're insolvent for you to stop putting up that straw man when replying to someone who's said they're not saying they're insolvent several times.

2)Agree, isn't this one of the things I've been saying.

3)So you can't see the other guy in this thread and the guy in the Stamp thread. Its cool though, ignore them. Even if its not regular should it not concern people that at any point you could be asked to provide proof that you, for whatever reasons they may be , don't want to provide, after the being verified and making the trade and initiating a withdrawal request.

Thats fine I don't think there's much benefit in continuing but understand why people are concerned instead of just calling it impotent rage.
1492  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:57:29 PM


Indeed, I admit that "vouched" is too strong.  He just let his name be used to legitimize the enterprise, and (like the other chief officers) did not see anything wrong with it until after the CEO ran away.  Only then did people read the "prospectus" critically and noticed that there never was a real business plan.

I do not think at all that Andreas was conscious of the scam until that time.  Also, as a tech guy he could be excused for not noticing the financial problems (unlike economist Tuur Demeester).  But the episode does not inspire confidence in his competence as auditor, does it?

Or as was quoted above he had no access to finances, how can you possibly judge his competence as an auditor based on an advisory tech role working away from the office and having no contact really other than the occasional Skype call. Again this is in the blog.
1493  Economy / Speculation / Re: I give up on: May 23, 2014, 10:54:02 PM
I wonder if everyone would make such an effort to reach out if we didn't perceive Veronica to be a female. It's very big hearted of everyone to look out for the newbie, but I see this kind of sad tale on a pretty regular basis in the world of bitcoin and the typical response is, "well, dude, you shouldn't have invested more than you were willing to lose." But in those cases, they didn't have feminine names or give a sob story about wanting to stay home with their daughter.

Just saying guys, you could be getting manipulated here by your natural sense of chivalry.

How do you know the people feeling sorry for her aren't females themselves ? Wink
1494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:41:33 PM
Sorry but most in here are not saying that they are insolvent. What they are saying is that the intrusiveness goes above and beyond reason and is sprung on you with out any guidelines or clarification, thats not impotent rage. People are allowed to feel how they like about that, both in terms of the requirements themselves and what happens to the data, and discuss it too.

And that quote is out of context of the conversation which was about being asked for proof. He was saying that they don't ask for proof despite evidence to the contrary including a user who posted after that.


I'm aware of the context.

And as I said before: I (and all the other cases I've heard of, except for one now I guess) appeared to get out of those questions just fine without providing ridiculously complicated proofs.

Well there's three now. The guy in the thread here, the guy on reddit and the guy on Bitstamps thread. Its by the by anyway and if its happening at all it needs discussion. The just because you were okay and answered the questions and didn't have to provide proof doesn't really seem an objective point of view when addressing the topic. Anecdote != data. 
1495  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:28:17 PM
Oh gosh how hard is it :p. Mining, donations, sold stuff online, investments, payment for freelance work. Yes, a few sentences covers it.
They don't even ask for proof of where the funds come from, they just ask where they origin from. Big difference.

Agree with that part til 100%. Bitstamp should give more information on what happens with the passport scans, replies to questionaires etc.


Haha, sorry dude, just forget it. We won't be able to convince them... guess there are quite a few people in here that got burned badly on gox and are now a bit paranoid.

The difference is, the gox problems were completely obvious a long time before it all came crashing down, just look at the huge thread of delayed withdrawals MONTHS before they actually shut down. That is what an exchange in trouble looks like, not this wet fart of impotent rage about their KYC procedures...


 Sorry but most in here are not saying that they are insolvent. What they are saying is that the intrusiveness goes above and beyond reason and is sprung on you with out any guidelines or clarification, thats not impotent rage. People are allowed to feel how they like about that, both in terms of the requirements themselves and what happens to the data, and discuss it too.

And that quote is out of context of the conversation which was about being asked for proof. He was saying that they don't ask for proof despite evidence to the contrary including a user who posted after that.


Are you saying OP faked the whole conversation from his thread, where they demand all sorts of crazy proof? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26apno/bitstamp_will_not_process_withdrawal_unless_you/

If it was so, then it would be easy enough for Bitstamp to say he's a liar. I doubt he is.

i confirm i had the same kinda intrusion and felt quite raped by such questions. fuck fiat. im full BTC and outta stamp.
1496  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Are you saying OP faked the whole conversation from his thread, where they demand all sorts of crazy proof? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26apno/bitstamp_will_not_process_withdrawal_unless_you/

If it was so, then it would be easy enough for Bitstamp to say he's a liar. I doubt he is.


Thankyou, some people just can't see whats in front of them. The reasons are unbeknown to me unless this guy has some sort of vested interest.
1497  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 09:58:14 PM
[snip]

Jeeez. As in they've just started asking for proof.

I know they have started asking general KYC/AML questions I have also said upthread that general questions are fine and necessary. This whole conversation is about the proof part not the questionnaire.

I ask again then

If it wasn't true don't you think Hazek would have rubbished it being as it was in his Bitstamp thread and he replied to someone else after the guy was saying they were asking for proof.

There's no need to tell me to relax I'm fine thanks. Obviously $200 isn't a threshold itself that would be asinine. Clearly the $200 triggered some overall threshold.

Anyway your not going to prove your point by just saying they've been asking questions for ages. We know that.
1498  Economy / Speculation / Re: I give up on: May 23, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
Well Veronica obviously isn't that poor, considering:
Quote
This was my sure thing so I could stay at home with my daughter
If anyone's going to go around donating bitcoin, or anything for that matter, I'm sure there are a lot of other people who need it more.

How do you know that she doesn't live in a poor country and needs say $20,000 to stay at home with her daughter for a few years? She then bought a few coins with her life savings because people kept saying its going straight to $5k. Some objectivity helps.
1499  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 09:44:08 PM


Ehm.. Sorry. Find it very hard to believe. Especially the sum of $200 which doesn't make sense at all. I've been trading with around $100k the last year and passed the questionaire with very short answers. If they would ask for real proofs (screenshots, contracts, bitcoin addresses etc), it would be all over Bitcointalk, reddit.

Also, all "Bitstamp questionaire threads" I've seen have never included the word PROOF. Only Bitfinex. I am pretty sure the guy who posted that misread the whole questionaire..

Lol, why would they even bother to ask about proof for $200? Roll Eyes


Maybe its just starting to be on Bitcointalk and reddit because they've only just started doing it.

If it wasn't true don't you think Hazek would have rubbished it being as it was in his Bitstamp thread and he replied to someone else after the guy was saying they were asking for proof.

Well I know the guy so next time he's online perhaps he will agree to send me a screen shot to prove it and we can continue the discussion there.

The $200 is an arbitrary figure and it seems it's not the amount but a certain threshold.
1500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New Bitcoin Foundation on: May 23, 2014, 09:34:44 PM
However it's my opinion that the direction the foundation takes should be decided by the Bitcoin community at large, not just a bunch of random people, IF they profess to represent the community at large and not just the organisation. They can't have it both ways.

The direction of the Foundation is not decided by a bunch of random people, it is decided by the members of the Foundation.

The foundation can profess to represent the community at large because they are the only organization around. They are the de facto representative (at least in the U.S.). If there were another organization in the U.S., the situation would be different. Keep in mind that there are organizations in other countries that have more clout in those countries than the Bitcoin Foundation.

You misunderstood "a bunch of random people" I was referring to you calling the community at large a bunch of random people. I realise this wasn't worded clearly.

But the point is someone can't profess to represent others if others haven't agreed for them represent them. I think this strays into political territory where your view will probably be influenced by your political ideas of democracy and fair representation.
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