First, I'd get some food, and then I'd eat it.
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I don't think removing freedoms for the sake of the few is what we should be striving for. Patents are terrible things that lay the groundwork for sanctioned monopolies. How long does a business need to grow and recoup their losses? A year? Ten years? Twenty? We don't know. Nor should we expect private businesses to make their debts and gains public, so we can see, exactly, how long they have to go before their patent expires (if we're going by the "just enough to recoup my losses" idea.) All of this requires a lot of writ law, which goes completely against libertarian ideals. We're striving for more agency, not less. If that means the few inventors and innovators of this world must invent new businesses practices to succeed, so be it. I don't want to live in a world where one guy can invent something, and must be paid every time that something is used, else those who violate the IP get sued. Lets not pave the way for sanctioned monopolies; that's what we're trying to get away from.
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AFAIK, it was a FUD campaign orchestrated by 4 or 5 members, at least one of which was hacked, and all sharing a very poor hold on the English language.
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Some would consider it a criminal offence to violate IP rights, others would consider it a criminal offence to enforce IP rights. Can both of these schools of thought be reconciled in the same society? I say "Yes".
With compromise, I'm sure anything's possible. In a case such as this, I believe we're leaning closer to minarchism... So how would IP enforcement work on a global scale?
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The Zeitgeist movies worked really well for me. After that, Stefan Molyneux's movie about Human Farming was a really good watch, as well as "The Story of Your Enslavement"
I saw a couple of videos about Illuminati but it seems like a bunch of Christian antichrist BS.
the first is anti christian; i wouldn't think thats effective after turning off the majority of who would be watching it Rightfully so; Christianity, and the other two biggies, are the reason why the state still, after all this time, has so much power. But I see your point; it weeds out those who would've refused to listen to begin with. Religious people are some of the hardest to change their minds; I've never met a Christian man who could defend his stance with logic and reason, but instead, appeals to emotion and tradition, and "We're good people, God fearing people," like that's supposed to mean anything. I happened to be agnostic at the time, so it made perfect sense to me, so I suppose that's why it appealed to me so much.
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Indeed, it comes down to force, as it always does. I don't care if people copy my stuff, as long as they don't infringe on my market share, at least until I've recouped my investment, plus some profit.
But what of everyone you've copied through research? Are they not owed, as well? If we're assuming IP is a thing, we also have to take into consideration the IP being stolen through any and all ideas, which are always based upon previous ideas. If I make cash on their ideas, they can ask or sue me as they see fit. Then you'd never make profit. Now if someone takes your idea that you've yet to recoup your losses on, you can choose to sue him. In the end, nobody's going anywhere, and the original patent holders make a killing. It favors "firsties" and discourages innovation. at some point it becomes too expensive to defend your IP, and thus you stop defending it.
cost-benefit 101: is it beneficial to attack someone who have not attacked you first? yes, sometimes!
(and this is the point that myrkul fail to see...)
Tell that to the patent trolls who do nothing but make insane profits from suing people who violate their IP. There was a case recently which a company sued almost every online retailer for using the idea of an online shopping cart. It wasn't until Newegg stood up to them that they finally knocked them down a peg and won their case.
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Indeed, it comes down to force, as it always does. I don't care if people copy my stuff, as long as they don't infringe on my market share, at least until I've recouped my investment, plus some profit.
But what of everyone you've copied through research? Are they not owed, as well? If we're assuming IP is a thing, we also have to take into consideration the IP being stolen through any and all ideas, which are always based upon previous ideas.
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The Zeitgeist movies worked really well for me. After that, Stefan Molyneux's movie about Human Farming was a really good watch, as well as "The Story of Your Enslavement"
I saw a couple of videos about Illuminati but it seems like a bunch of Christian antichrist BS.
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Can I profit from it without sharing it? If it takes millions to implement? You're welcome to prevent your employees - contractually - from divulging trade secrets, even your customers, if you can get them to agree. You just don't have any third party enforceability. ***But that's not fair! wah!*** Anyway, That issue is between my, my customers, and my arbitration company. Your arbitration company would have to agree with other arbitration companies that IP is a-OK, which would imply all of society would be cool with IP. However, if your arbitration company is the only one in the biz who thinks it's right, they'll not be in business long, as the other arbitration companies will believe you and your company are making an attempt at extortion of innocent people.
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Fortunately, the general consensus in the comments section are favorable for BTC; people are, in fact, acknowledging it as valuable.
Anyway, Wired has proven that it's anti-BTC, for whatever backwoods reason, so I will not be visiting their site again.
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I believe this is how patents were born
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You could dress them up like they were worth "One Internets"
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IP's a fun subject. Can anyone truly own the ingredients to a drug? Sure; but can they own the rights to mix those ingredients together in a specific fashion? Can we truly enforce a law that states Mary Jane owns the recipe to hash brownies, and anyone who makes them owes her some cash? Possible, but not without the use of force...
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But the entire process, from the word go, is IP. Bitcoins are also IP, I should add.
Your point? My point is that if I spend millions developing something, and, once developed, it is easily reverse-engineered and put into production, I am broke, unless some form of IP recognition exists. Wouldn't that instead mean you do not pursue a drug which would cost millions to develop, if you weren't sure you could make your money back? If enough people wanted it, couldn't a whole crowd of people fund the research?
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funny! myrkul is killing people, by not giving incentives to people trying to save them.
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Perhaps we wouldn't have a "90% sheep population" if the 10% who are awake could quit denigrating them and instead win over their hearts and minds with honest ideals. If you are right that "mommy government" is corrupt, it shouldn't be too hard. Lead by example, not by putting down those who don't see things your way.
Already tried this, on several occasions. Instead, they put you down for being a "conspiracy theorist". We're talking people who still believe their taxes are going to noble causes (some even believe the holy crusade for oil is about conquering the evil demons of the middle east.) Anyway, I've yet to find a way to get through to these people. I've been able to help my closer friends, but the so-called patriots are too far up their own asses to listen to reason. It's almost like a religion; try arguing with a priest about the existence of God and see how well that goes. In the end, the priest has quoted at least 10 Bible passages, hasn't changed his mind, and you're just frustrated that you wasted an hour going in circles.
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Anyway, OP, GL with your dream, but you're probably not going to get nearly enough here to make it happen.
thanks for support You're welcome Now you can't be disappointed later.
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Wasn't there a German fellow who made up a story about having a plane ticket but not being able to afford something or the other a few months ago?
Anyway, OP, GL with your dream, but you're probably not going to get nearly enough here to make it happen.
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Security breech. They said they'd refund any compromised wallets, anyhow.
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