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2341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No Taxation...Donation! on: April 26, 2013, 06:26:35 PM
Feel free to build up a night-watch-state like you want somewhere.
But don't force your idea of freedom upon me, please.

If you don't want to be forced upon you an idea, please stop supporting the state, who does force their ideas of freedom on you, and me, and other countries, if it can.  It's either or.  You can't be against force used against you, and in favor of force used against others.  That's called plenty of things, but, hypocrisy (probably not using it right) would be the simplest way to explain it.
2342  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No Taxation...Donation! on: April 26, 2013, 05:51:57 PM
If you wouldn't force a prostitute to provide her service without pay, why would you force anyone else?
The prostitute isn't watching something burn up in flames.
There is no reason to force anything here and the bad defintely outweigths the good in this case.

-> this argument is invalid.

Your points boils down to this: "People will help me, or I will make them help me."

If you don't see the problem with this, see here.
2343  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-25 Quartz - A wildly popular Chinese conspiracy theorist says Bitcoin... on: April 26, 2013, 12:59:22 AM
 Shocked

That's a huge audience.
2344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I just came across this article that sums up my feelings on the gun debate on: April 26, 2013, 12:56:14 AM
...high suicide rates because they don't know how they work.

Urgghh I can't figure out how this gun works!!  I'm just gonna kill myself!
2345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is antisemetism acceptable on: April 26, 2013, 12:37:45 AM
I live in Canada and hate speech is not acceptable here. If you are the victim of hate speech or any type of discrimination then you launch a complaint with the human rights commission and your case will be taken on free of charge. The perpetrator will need deep pockets to defend themselves and could go to prison.

3 years ago Ann Coulter was told to mind what she says while in Ottawa, lest she be arrested for criminal speech. Here is an article with her response: http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2010/03/23/ann-coulter-responds/

She threated to launch a complaint with the Human Rights Commission saying we were being hateful towards Conservatives. I don't think her complaint got very far. None-the-less we managed to shut Ann Coulter up.  Grin

Terrible.  Freedom of speech; wait, no, except the stuff we don't like.  But besides everything you can't say, you can say anything.  Tongue
2346  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 26, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
In London in 2011, the police withdrew protection from property while dealing with a riot.  Within an hour, looters were burning people out of their homes and within a day a man was beaten to death.  Same happened in Dublin, Ireland in 1916 and in Baghdad, Iraq in 2003. 

Take away the man with the gun and people immediately start looting and soon will start killing.  The man with the gun is exactly why they don't loot, pillage and kill. 



People are looting, pillaging and killing because the guns went away.  Not because their God was dying, not because their state was collapsing or their worlds were crumbling apart--meh, same things.  Couldn't be because something pissed an entire society off.  Couldn't be that the riot would've happened with or without the guns, and that controlling the riot with guns is an artificial way to quell any argument and is just a bandaid when nobody can or is willing to solve the reason why the riot happened to begin with.  No, that couldn't be right...

So quick question:  If the police went away, would you, not talking about anyone but yourself, revert into an animal and kill the next guy you saw?  Usually the answer is, "No, I wouldn't, but what's to stop someone else?"  Which implies everyone's stupid and barbaric and untrustworthy with any form of weapon (except the person being asked, of course, which is how statism was invented to begin with.)
2347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is the thread where you discuss free market, americans and libertarianism on: April 26, 2013, 12:20:00 AM
How did racial socialists get in on this?  I always thought BTC was a sort of AnCap kinda thing.

Heh... we attract all kinds. We even have a few seriously deluded Zeitgeisters here.

One thing I can say that's good about Zeitgeist; it's highly effective in breaking that spell religion and the state has over the populace.

For the systems it advocates, I'm not entirely sure.
2348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Taxation [discussion] on: April 25, 2013, 11:27:30 PM

Random nitpick, and I'm sure there's an answer to it somewhere: I still don't get why corporations have their skyscrapers in the government's meat pie.  Aren't businesses supposed to do business stuff, like providing goods and services?  What does the faceless, abstract entity that is Amazon have to do with human affairs?  Is it the owner who is in favor of Internet sales tax?  Is it the employees?  I don't get it.  Is Amazon supposed to have an official political standing point, and who decides it?
2349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tertiary/Higher Education on: April 25, 2013, 11:22:26 PM
A private education which must contort to the state's definition of what an education is, is not a private education.  Granted, colleges generally give a much better experience over high school, but, I'm still stuck on rails for 2 years before I can have an art teacher tell me to go paint so I can learn how to paint exactly as well as I have been without an art teacher Undecided

Give me a completely private college whose intention is not to "prepare you for the work force" (god fucking damn it), but to provide a haven for people to go to learn and become educated for the sake of education, so they may better their lives and be happier as individuals (in other words, the whole point of philosophy), and I'll be the happiest man alive.

Quote from: Wikipedia on the Apocalypse
An apocalypse, translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, hidden from humanity in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation,

Psssst.  The super-duper-secret information resulting in this apocalypse, which will finally end the biblical time period we've been suffering through, is that a philosophical approach to life will make you happy, and thus make others happy.  Now all we gotta do is disclose this information to the rest of the world and we'll all be dandy.
2350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun Control is anti Women? on: April 25, 2013, 11:05:27 PM
Gun control would reduce the suicide rate and women try to kill themselves more than men.  So if you wanted to take that route, you could argue that gun control is pro-woman.

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Statistics indicate that males die much more often by means of suicide than do females; however, reported suicide attempts are 3 times more common among females than males.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide

I once knew a girl in high school who "attempted" suicide fourteen times.  I don't know how you goof up suicide that many times, but she managed.  AFAIC, it's just a cry for attention.  We can call them attempts but if you really wanted to die, there are an infinite amount of successful ways.  My own sister's attempted suicide before, by swallowing a whole bottle of sleeping pills.  Well, she threw them up and had her stomach pumped, but probably had a good chance of having some serious damage.  Anyway, she ain't dead, so there's that.

...but aside from that, what do guns have to do with suicide?  Huh  I'm not seeing any obvious connection, outside of people successfully killing themselves with guns, in which case, if a woman used a gun to attempt suicide, she would likely be successful.  Doesn't change the fact that she wants to die, which is a completely different issue.
2351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun Control is anti Women? on: April 25, 2013, 10:56:03 PM
But it applies to more than just women.  Grannies, provided they can still be trusted with a gun, won't have to worry about a thing--except where they put the darn thing. 

That reminds me of a song...

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/jukes.shtml

I have the MP3 around somewhere, if anyone wants it.

Very cool lyrics Grin  I suspect the argument is, "But if anyone can own a gun, what if someone goes on a rampage?!"
2352  Other / Meta / Re: Jobs Board on: April 25, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
Splitting services between buying and selling would help out.  Separate categories for people looking for work, and people looking for work to be done.
2353  Other / Off-topic / Re: who likes smoothie (troll`) on: April 25, 2013, 10:44:18 PM
Smoothie if I had a straw, I would drink you Grin
2354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun Control is anti Women? on: April 25, 2013, 10:41:26 PM
Gun control just means shifting the individual control of weaponry to state control.  The state has no intention of controlling themselves of guns.  Sociopathic proxy killers don't use guns; they equip someone else with them to use against whomever, and it's a lot easier to detain a gunless citizen than a well-armed one.  You're essentially allowing the few to dictate who has the weaponry, and America's military is already as bloated as it gets.  Will the military take away a soldier's weapons because they're so dangerous?

No.  Hell no.  Hell no.

Naturally, a politician, who is disconnected with the real world, will advocate gun control; he's the one getting the control of guns.  I wouldn't mind being the only badass in the nation legally owning the world's deadliest weaponry, myself.  Who would fuck with me?  Smiley  Whomever owns the weapons makes the rules.  All who disagree get shot/stabbed/stoned.  If anyone can produce evidence of the opposite occurring, I'll be a monkey's uncle.



Anyway back to OP.  I suppose the logic makes sense, if we're assuming all men, who are of many shapes and sizes, will generally be stronger than women.  I've never met a girl who can beat me in arm wrestling myself, but I reckon they're out there.  Ever see those muscle mags?  Where women are super beefy and no longer have tits?  I suppose there's always an exception Tongue  Even the average girl can overpower a man with no arms and legs.  I hope.

But it applies to more than just women.  Grannies, provided they can still be trusted with a gun, won't have to worry about a thing--except where they put the darn thing. 
2355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Taxation [discussion] on: April 25, 2013, 06:53:48 PM
You are throwing too much stuff into one pot. Just, because people messed up a lot of things in public education doesn't mean it's a bad idea.

On the matter of public education: I'm going to assume you're from the west and/or live in a capitalistic society.

I believe we can both agree that monopolies are bad, yes?  Fall in quality, rise in price.  Assuming the state is an entity, like any other individual or company, why would it be appealing for the government to own almost every school?  Wouldn't different schools competing for the same prospective students aim to improve their quality of education at a reasonable price, as opposed to everyone paying for the same schools (whether or not you attend them, go to private schools, or home school,) owned by the same entity, providing a similar service without worry of losing customers (students.)

We can compare the quality of state-owned schools to privately-owned colleges to draw a conclusion.  I don't have data at hand, but, in my personal experience, my local high school was a death trap of bullies, avoiding the ghetto, and studying for the TAKS test (a state test) more than studying stuff that actually mattered.  If you can't afford private education or a parent who can stay at home to teach you, you are coerced into going to the state school; it's involuntary, and students, on average, suffer.  OTOH, my local college provides a phenomenal service and the professors are all marvelous; compared to high school, even my worst professors would've made good HS teachers.  It's a safe environment with a lot of nice folk (excluding this weird trend of shooting up schools we're having lately.)

Thus, I believe the question becomes, "How could the average person afford private schools?"  But then we must go into another topic; the quality of an individual's career.  Assuming people are continuing to work for near minimum wages, state schools appear to be a must.  Everything's interlinked and related, and it's a tricky subject, that of taxes.  It pretty much boils down to a dependency on government due to the removal of certain liberties (for whatever reason, but I'll assume they're all a form of, "It's for your safety/own good.")
2356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How The Boston Bombing Is Already Being Exploited To Introduce Tyranny on: April 25, 2013, 06:33:01 PM
Attempts to read more deeply into it are a waste of time

The motto of the average citizen and the average despot.



Corruption?  In my government?
2357  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Bitcoin is not just a value transfer program but; Direct Democracy? on: April 22, 2013, 06:22:31 AM
Bitcoin is anarchy. Beautiful sweet anarchy.

The decision between vanilla or chocolate icecream is anarchy.  Tongue
2358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Taxation: You Can Always Leave. on: April 22, 2013, 05:56:17 AM
How so? You're making a LOT of assumptions about my behavior, most of which are entirely unfounded.

Seems to be the theme here.
2359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin: Believer, or not on: April 22, 2013, 05:44:19 AM
The Pandora's box has been opened.  It's never going away Grin
2360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Taxation: You Can Always Leave. on: April 22, 2013, 05:40:48 AM
Do you have personal experience with what happens? I'm assuming you don't. As someone else said, you're not as wise as you think.

I've never claimed to be the slightest bit wise, else I wouldn't ask questions.  However, I am certain America isn't going to sit around and let its citizens simply not pay taxes; after all, if evading or altering your taxes was legal, what use do we have of the IRS?  Let's get rid of them, since taxation is not enforced.

As I thought. You're only speculating. You don't have any fucking idea how the process works.

I can only imagine that you're some young rebel in search of a cause. Go get 'em!

Thanks, you too.
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