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2161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ripple XRP Price in 2021 on: January 06, 2021, 07:43:58 PM
Obviously they are not going to end up giving up right away, thats not possible for a company this size and a currency this big. We are not talking about some small case here, even tron had a problem and they end up paying a small fee and still going strong right now, which means if tron got away with it and continues today, I am sure xrp will be fine in the future as well. Don't get me wrong I dislike both xrp and tron, only thing good about tron is that you can send it instantly for either cheap or even free, which is why I think tron is still better, but I dislike both of them anyway.

However just because I dislike them doesn't mean that I will be ignorant to community, there is a huge community behind xrp and sec only charges you a penalty, which they will for ripple, and ripple will pay it and everything will continue without interruption.
2162  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you Interested in trading? on: January 06, 2021, 07:02:22 PM
absolutely yes, although it is a kind of rush, I'm still trying because I also satisfy in the trading industry perhaps it is my additional asset for my duty in destiny and seems to be a good one of the artists in Crypto trading, by now I've also followed the real strategy of a crypto trading signal on how it works, to buy then waiting for the good timing, but it is also complicated but nothing went wrong for, seems like normal even you gain with small amount of profit, it is also valuable.
Trading is the best way to make profits as long as you are knowledgeable and capable to do it. But trading following some crypto trading signals may be quite risky and may put you more losses. It's always advisable to follow your own tips from your own experiences. So if you'll lose, learn from it and do better next time.
Before we start trading, we should learn some lessons, and we need always to learn because the market will always change. I am still trying to trade, but I admitted that this time would not be easy because if we do not analyze carefully, we can buy the coin at a high price. I do not recommend following the crypto trading signals because I feel that we better analyze by ourselves to get a new lesson from what happens in the market.
I gave up a long time ago Cheesy. I am not joking, back in 2015-2017 period I was trading a lot, and I liked it as well because it was something that brought me joy and fun, thanks to that I made a decent amount of money as well, the latest one that really sealed the deal was me selling at 20k during 2017 peak, so I assumed I have managed to sell at the top and I felt like there was no better trader than me ever. What happened?

Well, I saw price going to 12k and staying there for a while, and I bought some, which ended up going to 3k as we all know, and at that point I realized the best way for me to deal with this is buying bitcoin and keeping it there, there is no reason to keep trading all the time because I am good at it when it happens to be a bull market and bad when it is bear market and I wouldn't know when it will be bear or when bull, so just keep buying and be done with it, it is still profitable anyway.
2163  Economy / Speculation / Re: What you'll do when BTC price will go down heavily and fast? on: January 06, 2021, 12:56:35 PM
assuming the history of BTC from 2017 - 2018 will repeat this year, what you'll do with your BTC?
I think it is not going to be that difficult to actually get out, but wait out would be easier as well. Last time bitcoin reached 20k, there weren't really that many people who bought there, but even worse, we went to 3k, there were tons of people who bought over 3k, so everyone lost money, only very early birds didn't.

However this time around, the price went over 20k very quickly, we were all here before 20k, it was a loooong time before we broke over 20k, and we could say that even if it crashes to 20k, we are going to be fine, and if it stays above 10k+ there are tons of people who would be fine as well. So long story short I think people will be fine even if the price of bitcoin suddenly crashed and we will not have to do anything radical neither. I am not afraid honestly, it can drop to 13k and I would still be fine, which I doubt it would fall.
2164  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The viability of Trading Bots. on: January 05, 2021, 05:57:34 PM
I have to say that trading bots are doing it 7/24 and that is the difference because of that we are not really doing the same thing as humans. Technically you could do better than a computer, that is no doubt, but it is also has some advantages of their own as well, there is really no other way around.

Bots could make a profit by checking things 7/24 and doing it non-stop and every time whatever you told it to do, it does that without missing a beat, that is some marvelous thing. What makes bots good or bad is not the bot itself, bot just does what you tell it to do, what makes bots great is the fact that you may not be able to find a right indicator or anything to put in there, so it would look like your system you put in the bot could be wrong. Hence this is why I do not think that we should be really doing comparisons between real people and bots.
2165  Economy / Economics / Re: China Economy Forecasted to Surpass US Economy by 2028 on: January 05, 2021, 12:23:46 PM
People are forgetting that this has changed because China was on route to making a decent amount of profit with all the work they do from other nations, plus USA was in a horrible situation because of Trump as well. You might be someone who loves Trump, which I am sorry for you, but if you check the stats it is obvious that Trump turned that nation into a horrible economic place, every single stat shows that dude basically tried to bankrupt USA just like he did with all his other business' as well, having hundreds of millions of dollars worth of debt is "normal" to him, so he tried to basically mimic the same thing for USA as well.

Now that Biden is the president (well soon) and now that China is known to break sooooo many international laws with hong kong, muslims in their nation and indian border, we are going to not have any Chinese economy passing American anytime soon, not in 2028, not in 2038.
2166  Economy / Economics / Re: IF USDT would collapse what do you think will happen to the BTC price? on: January 05, 2021, 09:24:56 AM
The collapse of USDT will set the space back for at least two years, the money that is being used to pump BTC comes mainly from USDT and when the source of the fund is gone the house will collapse, I just hope Tether team settles their issue with SEC this year because USDT has done more good than bad for the space

First of all, Tether is just a token issued by the Bitfinex exchange. If the SEC classifies USDT as a security, then Bitfinex needs to take back all the USDT tokens and reimburse the users with actual US Dollar funds. This won't be difficult, as they already claims that 100% of their tokens are backed up with real assets. There is only a very small chance of SEC targeting Tether, but even if that happens there is not much to worry about.
Tether is also keeps all their money on bahamas, which means that bitfinex can't and won't deal with USA authorities, if SEC decides that USDT is an illegal thing, the worst thing that could happen would be the fact that they can't deal with american companies and that's it. You will not have usdt in places like Coinbase for example, but as long as it is out of USA you could still continue to work with USDT without a problem and they won't need to shut down or reimburse anyone at all.

However I still think the "demand" for USDT is not as high as they claim to be, they keep printing USDT and probably buying bitcoin with it, which made them richer than the amount they probably printed, but it also doesn't mean that they will end up with any legal problems neither. Even if they were delisted from all USA exchanges, it is still not going to crash the market too much.
2167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 05, 2021, 08:23:37 AM
PSG could have won even last year, everyone looks at hindsight and say that Bayern was the much better team, however finals have this sort of magical situation where you could be any great team and you could still end up losing for just one game, look at the leagues, does PSG never lose? They lose to teams that are much worse, look at Bayern, do they never lose? They can even lose to teams bottom of the league, it is all luck in football at certain point and sometimes players are not on their days.

With Poch, I am sure PSG will get better, not only because he could be a better manager, but also because it would be fresh situation and everyone will get a reset. Think of it like your computer starting to run slow, you close it, wait a few minutes, reopen and suddenly it is better, you didn't change anything, but it is still better, think of this addition like that.
2168  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: January 05, 2021, 05:43:46 AM
The 'inflated balance' thing (if true about Roo, which I don't doubt) isn't new - Stake.com does it too. Stake gives inflated balances to certain streamers and they can only take a fraction of the winnings, but the bigger amounts look better on streams. It's borderline scamming especially considering the fact that people wagering in the 'races' with non-inflated balances are at a clear disadvantage, but hey, if people's withdrawals aren't explicitly being blocked, no one gives a shit...

Yikes, that would be mighty disappointing if true. It's explicitly illegal in a lot of places (e.g. Nevada); and for pretty good reason.


One of the things I really liked about the early days of bitcoin gambling was even in the absence of regulation, the major players were reputation-driven and there was virtually no bullshit and it was clean/honest/transparent. You could even give them your email without fear of being spammed by promo shit, etc.

I guess it's a bit like that batman quote: "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
It is nice to see you outside of bustabit and bustadice places, I feel like you should be around more often in everywhere. I see you like kind of stamp of approval but also someone wise enough to know every gear that makes the machine work Cheesy. I feel like the casino world had to get more ruthless with the amount of competition, that is the problem with all those new stuff.

I mean think about it this way, back in the day we only had just-dice and primedice, and nothing more, they could have done it anyway they want because they were the only off-chain ones, whereas satoshidice was ondice start of dice gaming. Obviously you could be a "hero" in that situation and do everything right by gamblers, because you have no competition at all, but in the end with more competition you have to grow bigger and do a bit more things that bothers but still gets results.
2169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yes, you who are waiting, what is your excuse now? on: January 04, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Unfortunately not everyone knows when to get in when the price is so high, and I understand them. I do not get involved all-in, that is not my style and I would advice everyone against it as well, but there are tons of people who do that, and when you want to get involved this much all at once, you have to get in at a right price.

When the price went down, it was obviously a chance to get in, and everyone who had a bit of money should have bought some, but at the same time there were tons of people who waited for a crash, not just $28k but even further down as well, so they probably waited for it to go down even more before they got involved. The good thing about it is that since price went low but then skyrocketed back, that means price obviously recovered by a lot of people who bought, which means there were tons of people who bought when it went down.
2170  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Far is GrayScale & Other Institutions Going to FOMO Bitcoin? Poll! on: January 04, 2021, 01:36:39 PM
These are companies that do not have any rush like we do, when regular people end up buying bitcoin they usually just do that to get rich quick and they invest that into alts, defis and many other things or they just hope that bitcoin makes them super rich and when it doesn't they end up selling it.

So, what I think will happen is that these type of companies will get more and more bitcoins because regular people keep on selling bitcoin, they trade it at best (meaning they do sell but buy back and keep on doing this over and over again) which means there will always be more bitcoins on the market to buy for these big companies. This is exactly why I think it is quite obvious that these companies will take us to moon, since they only buy and never sell that means they are going to keep making bitcoin more and more valuable over time without a doubt.
2171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: do you trust social media influencers on cryptocurrencies. on: January 04, 2021, 09:16:42 AM
Honestly, i have followed lots of twitter influencers and i can say that most of them are active during bull market and goes silent when the market is dull. you see post like btc pumping, lets go to the moon and so on whenever the market turns green. looks like most jump out from Nowhere to proclaim the BTC goodness. My opinion, if they failed to inform their followers and  listeners to be careful and never to be greedy, then they are not truly crypto influencers. all they wanted to do is dump on their fallowers and move on.
Well, you called them social media influencers, and guess what they do? Social media influencing is their business, and they will be ready to do anything or promote/shill any coin on pages for money or for whatever benefit they are going to get from doing it.

So, it’s not whatever they tell you that you’re going to believe, you have to be very careful and do your own research when the so called social media influencers tells you what to do. Don’t be too quick to run and go invest in coins just because they told you that it is good or something, they can be paid by any team to shill their coins or tokens.
2172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We can reduce our chances of loss on: January 04, 2021, 06:10:45 AM
I am writing this specially for newbies

Rather than investing in a shit coin to have 2x 3x profit within a day,If we invest in the top alts when it is in the Deep, then it can give a good profit.
Specially in a case of newbies, they always run behind 2x or 10x profit and in maximum cases they loose their money , but my friend's 10-20% profit is also very good.
 And please don't enter in market when everything is pumped,if you miss this opportunity then wait for the other one.

That is how you basically earn money, through waiting for the top altcoins to drop down low and start investing on it then afterwards holding. As time passes by, since they are the top altcoins, there will always be a possibility that their value will massively grow. It's not really a good idea to enter a market full of crypto on their bull run because instead of earning profit from it, you would instead experience possible loss. Be strategic and wise with your decision as you enter the crypto world, if you will become like that, you might end up being a big shot just through strategically holding really good coins.
I would agree normally but there are few points I would like to change with it, otherwise it is definitely a good one.

First of all we do not know when they are bottomed out, so it is hard to know when to get in, my alternative to this is getting in all the time, I try to put aside a bit of money (which I failed in all of 2020 unfortunately) and I spread it on my portfolio, which means I keep buying almost every month, or at least whenever I can, that way I do buy at the bottom, I also buy at the top, but I keep getting crypto richer, that's a safe bet, that's how I do not have to worry about trying to guess the bottom.

Secondly, not all top coins always profits, depends on the top coin you would like to invest, BCH for example is a miners coin that is run by two big miner, that's it, or XRP for example.. well we know what happened to them, so you have to pick carefully.
2173  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: January 04, 2021, 05:01:23 AM
I have to say the more things added constantly, the more people must have been coming here, freebitco.in became something much bigger than it started with. About 5 or so years ago I suppose, I remember there was this advertisement network, people paid for ads on famous bitcoin related websites, it was kinda like google ads on websites but it was purely for crypto related things and it was a network for that.

I remember freebitco.in getting the most money out of anything else, but it was still a faucet, mainly a faucet and seen like that, it was a period where faucets were very very famous because you still could made some real crypto with it, even though it wouldn't worth much in dollars, it would look good for bitcoin number, if you worked hard for a month you could have collected nearly half a bitcoin (which is 15k+ dollars now if you kept it Cheesy) and from those days to now being probably one of the most visited crypto website out there. Its really a huge improvement.
2174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2020/21 Season on: January 03, 2021, 06:04:07 PM
I would have to say GS was still the better team playing thats for sure. There were some occasions where they could have scored but got unlucky, and in football when you get unlucky after unlucky positions you end up getting more angry. If you check the guys face who got red card during the position, he didn't even aimed at the ball, he didn't cared about the ball and the ball was very far from him to slide tackle, he was just super angry and slide tackled with anger, obviously he knows that is a red card but at that split single second when you are that angry you just do it. Same happened with many players all night.

Antalya just got 6 goals scored on them, they were not really after any win, so obviously they didn't played with anger, hell 1 point from league second is more than enough for them, but galatasaray tried to win against such a low level team and got unlucky so many times, which explains their anger. Obviously a wrong thing to do, but we can't say all teams play fairly, every single team have these kinds of games.
2175  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fast ways to lose money trading on: January 03, 2021, 04:48:03 PM
This is one of the best logic right here. I know they look very obvious, I know that if you are a newbie even you think you know what this post is talking about, but believe me there are so many people who have ended up doing a trade out of emotion and broke at least one of the rules. My biggest mistake has always been using more than 6% for example, I try to keep myself within 5% for each of my trade, and each time I did any of it, I ended up using as much as 40% for some of my trades.

To give you the worst example, I once bought Nano with about half of my coins, nearly at least, and that crashed HARD, I have lost almost all my investment during that period, thankfully I am better right now but that sucked for a while. Long story short, write these down, and when you are trading, check them out one by one before you make any trade like you are a robot and leave all emotions aside.
2176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin ETF by 2nd quarter of 2021? on: January 03, 2021, 04:12:26 PM
I have no reason to believe that the SEC will approve this proposal after rejecting it repeatedly in the past. Even if by some miracle they approve it, I don't think that it will be ready by the 2nd quarter of 2021. Because the entire reviewal process by the SEC takes around 8 months to get completed. And the point now is that VanEck hasn't made a formal application yet.
SEC doesn't want people to do things they are not aware of or not allowed and thats the key here. Crypto people got very scared after the XRP thing but the reality is that we are not really living any worse than we did before that, look at bitcoin for example its almost 35k, so its obvious that one thing doesn't reflect on the other things.

If any ETF happens, it is going to be in a way where SEC allows, and they will list bunch of requests, and if the company that does the ETF accepts the requests from SEC, there is no reason why there shouldn't be one. I mean there are exchanges that has been active for nearly half a decade in USA and nothing happened to them, why? Because they do whatever SEC asks them to do, simple as that. However if you make up an ETF in your mind and show that to SEC and say you want to start that, obviously its going to get shot down very easily.
2177  Economy / Speculation / Re: another major resistance broke and the FOMO began on: January 02, 2021, 05:47:30 PM
Bullish sentiment is something that can be erased very very quickly. I remember why 2018 was such a bad year, because when we reached peak point at November 2017 there were tons of whales who ended up selling, those were the days most of the early investors got out, all those people who bought under 30 dollars started to sell, I am sure some of them are still around but a lot of them sold and considering they were capable of selling thousands of bitcoin easily (because they made so much bitcoin on early days even with mining) that became something a bit more different, where people would come out and sell tens of thousands of bitcoin.

This time around we do not have that just yet, so it looks like its bullish right now, but the moment someone comes out and sells tens of thousands of bitcoin, everyone else will start to sell their bitcoin as well.
2178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What altcoins/s do you think will trigger the alt season? on: January 02, 2021, 04:16:31 PM
It is commonly happening like ETH always has a trigger on alts, whenever it makes a move the whole market suddenly starts to move. I would say bitcoin has made a lot of news this year but the fact that ETH made even more profit to people who bought at the start of the season should tell you something, if you had ETH instead of BTC you would have made a lot more money.

We still all remember when ethereum phase 0 news broke out and launchpad was opened so that people could invest their ETH for the eth 2.0, it was I think early November if I am not wrong, or maybe late October give or take those were the days and said 3rd December will be the end of it and they will need some ETH tied there. As soon as news broke out, the whole market suddenly started to go up like crazy, first it was ETH directly then Bitcoin as the biggest and after that all other altcoins became higher too.
2179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wow, The Best Crypto Christmas 🌲 Ever! on: January 01, 2021, 06:22:38 PM
Bitcoin had a marvelous year that is for sure, it had a marvelous week as well, but it has done so much and increased so much that I really don't know what it can do after this. I really hope that we can see more increases, my nation is doing horrible in economy for the past few years and I would love bitcoin to reach to 100k+ levels in order to save my life, that is what I am aiming at.

You mean there are no ceiling? Yeah, possible, with this huge runs and the sentiments of investors like big companies - bullish, then definitely $100k levels could be achieve and I'm sure everyone's dream to see it and the massive increase in our portfolio, in terms of fiat.

Although the world economy is still suffering, I would say that crypto more than ever will be the safe haven for the rich and even us average Joe. And could potentially make us live above normal if the price goes to 6 digits in the future. So let's see if we can repeat another good and bountiful Christmas in 2021.
Technically speaking there is really nothing that can make bitcoin cap at a certain level, sure it is not logical to say bitcoin will be 1 billion dollars per bitcoin, that would be naive to say that, but it is "technically" possible that's all. I just want bitcoin world (all of cryptos) to help us, the ones that are involved, the ones that have been around for a long time, the ones that made it what it is today, a bit richer so that we do not live a bad period.

Unfortunately not everyone lives in USA or UK type of nations, we live in some worse nations, and even on those "great" nations there are many people who are struggling and living a bad life there as well. So at the end of the day there are too many people who are financially not in a good situation, which is why I hope it will be fixed soon and crypto would be the one who will help us.
2180  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long will go Bitcoin? on: December 31, 2020, 05:02:33 PM
December is over already, and the price is still moving, from $26,000 early this week now we have it at $29,000. Even at that, the market is still not showing any signs that it will drop, it keeps moving slowly upwards, and I believe that we will reach somewhere around $30,000 or $29,000 before the price will fall.

There are possibilities that it can get pass that price and reach a higher price than expected, but not like the wild speculations that people are making, like $100k, $300k, and all that. The last time there was a bull run, we stopped around January and getting into January in the next two days, let’s wait and see what next the market will be surprising us with.
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