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2181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 30, 2014, 05:47:34 PM
All the above comments are correct. What I was talking about was about the ability of one specific authority to link your IP with your XMR address. Many people out there (including me for a rather long time) were using their exchange addresses for donations and/or transactions. Like you said, this is a fatal error. Sorry if I was misunderstood.

I agree with you, exchanges will have data that is linked to both your ip address and your account on their website. Apart from using email addresses that are not tied to you, and even possibly accessing the exchange from a vpn/tor service, the incoming and receiving transactions on the Monero blockchain will be tougher to link, in the future, with an ip address.

The ongoing work on the i2pd development, and (assumed?) future integration into the Monero client will make ip addresses unlinkable with addresses in the wallet, even though that would be very tough to do anyways even without i2p.

So, worst case is that the exchange can be asked to provide only proof of an account you managed to authorities, and not necessarily be able to provide proof that you owned the money in the account. I believe that will give an edge, if nothing else.

So your choice to claim ownership or not, is still largely in your own hands.

ADD:

Of course, if you were to purchase XMR on the exchange with an altcoin or bitcoin that you purchased with fiat money/something else, and never withdraw it from the exchange to your own wallet, then of course your movements can be identified. This will also be addressed, as the tools of mass adoption are refined to the point where an average user feels comfortable and is capable of running the wallet software on their computer.

Perhaps large purchases might best be done by renting or purchasing mining equipment, as that can already be done through a vpn/tor service IIRC?

a. This is an extraordinary prospect; thanks for bringing it up. I do have a question though... Could the ISP of yours (provided they're aware) pinpoint your XMR transaction in some way? (ie: by sniffing header i2pd packages?)

b. This is the way I bought the majority of the stash of mine. I mine a little right now with a small office farm. Are you referring to the possibility of renting a botnet just for the mining purposes? Hmm... Depends who's door you're going to knock. Wink

Addition for your consideration (rather old article but describes what I had in mind):
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack-tor-network-encryption
2182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 05:37:47 PM


How many customers do you suppose those poor kids have? (Other than dad) Cheesy


Dad probably set the whole thing up so he could con suckers into donating to him err I mean his kids "lemonade stand."
This is cute enough though and I wouldn't mind donating some satoshis. Smiley
2183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 30, 2014, 05:21:59 PM
Nothing (I'll type it again: NOTHING) is anonymous if it happens online. There are allegedly anonymous solutions like Tor or secure VPNs, but if somebody wants to find you (provided he has the resources) he will do so. A word for XMR. Do not post your addresses online, for this is the only address you have. I've seen many people doing so; dood if you don't mind revealing your address, what's the point of using XMR anyway?

This is small misunderstanding. Monero addresses are safe to post online, list in a public directory etc. They don't appear on the blockchain, and the only thing you can do with an address is send coins to it. You can't identify transactions that were sent to the address.

Of course, nothing is ever quite 100%, it is possible there may be bugs or flaws. However, that is the intent of the design.


If you buy your XMR on a centralized exchange, though, and the exchange keeps records of your withdrawals to that address, it could be linked back to your personal information if the exchange's records are ever disclosed.

Even though somebody else knows that you own that address, they cannot see what is inside that address. You can send money from that address to another address. That would make it unlinkable.

Yes that is correct. I think what he meant was something like: If you have your public address on your web site (along with your name) and use that same address for an (otherwise anonymous) exchange, then the exchange account can then be linked to you, not through the blockchain, but through the exchange's own records of your address matching the address on your website.

Then that's not the protocol's fault but that of the laziness of the user

All the above comments are correct. What I was talking about was about the ability of one specific authority to link your IP with your XMR address. Many people out there (including me for a rather long time) were using their exchange addresses for donations and/or transactions. Like you said, this is a fatal error. Sorry if I was misunderstood.
2184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 05:09:37 PM
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2185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 1. GCoin [GCN] Unique & Wide Distribution! Have Fun & Earn GCoins Without Mining on: October 30, 2014, 03:00:53 PM
I was busy for the past 10 days too. Real life is a bitch Smiley I promise when I find some free time to resume testing. Keep up the good work Dekker3D. Smiley
2186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 29, 2014, 10:33:18 PM
Nothing (I'll type it again: NOTHING) is anonymous if it happens online. There are allegedly anonymous solutions like Tor or secure VPNs, but if somebody wants to find you (provided he has the resources) he will do so. A word for XMR. Do not post your addresses online, for this is the only address you have. I've seen many people doing so; dood if you don't mind revealing your address, what's the point of using XMR anyway?
2187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.8 Required Update on: October 29, 2014, 10:26:39 PM
Doge has -hands down- the best community members from all crypto coins. It surely deserves a better future and I think it won't be long before the next pump. For this to happen though, BTC should break out from its bear market route. After that, DOGE ----> Moon.  Wink
2188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MAX] MaxCoin - MANDATORY UPDATE 9.3.1 - Sept 12 on: October 28, 2014, 09:14:25 PM
I've got the OSX Macoin wallet and it is still stuck on 'No block source available'. How long should I leave it until it gets a successful connection?

And if i do have to change anything, that would be my main gripe. For those who aren't savvy about the technicals, it should already be working without any changes.

That's what the problem is. The MAX wallet for OSX has issues. It was supposed to be updated but it's almost a month now. Anyone?
Ah, right-right-right  Tongue

Bloody hell. This was the issue before the update as well, which you might be well aware too.

What's the go, MaxcoinProject?
Quote from: maxcoinproject
#MaxCoin 0.9.3.1 for Mac OS X available at http://maxcoinnews.net/maxcoin-v0-9-3-1-release-notes/ … Please download ASAP.

The previous wallet had no problems for me whatsoever. Sad thing is that the "mandatory update" alters the db and I couldn't get back to the previous one. Nevertheless I fired up a VM and loaded up the windows client in there, but it's not what I want to do with my Mac. If any of the devs are active in here and want to share some news, please do so.
2189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 28, 2014, 09:09:33 PM
For whatever you do, you should first read carefully about it and then dive in. I'm not into alts a lot, only mining a couple just for tips & buying more BTCs. XMR is a bit different for me though; I'm holding a good portion and I probably will accumulate more as time passes by. The reason is mainly that it's not "just a copy-paste" from the BTC code; it incorporates new technologies, it's backed up by a team of devs, plus some respectful vip members in here.

The risk though is always 50-50. You do the math.
2190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2014, 04:43:21 PM


Yum. Delicious reptilians.




I had conducted an internet search on eating lizards, and there does NOT seem to be too much information about the nutritious value of lizards.  I would think that lizards would be pretty nutritious - especially since they eat a lot of insects, so lizards should be fairly high in omega 3 fat... but what do I know?
Daaaaeemn!!!!
If trolling would ever be illegal, 99.9% of this thread's posters will definitely be imprisoned... (myself included)  Grin
2191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2014, 12:37:36 PM
Yeah, because having the possibility to go in a random torrent site and download torrents for almost any movie, ebook, song and file in general without any repercussions sounds like "curtailed digital piracy".

A total success.

Sadly most of the people won't understand the essence of sharing, but the allegedly called "piracy" is most of the times the best way to promote some movies/songs/ebooks etc. As per their "regulations" I'd like to share a memory of mine since I was a kid. No digital copies then; when we wanted to find a reason to get closer to a girl we liked, recording some songs from our favorite radio shows to a tape and give it to her as a gift was the way to do it. If you were nerdy enough, you might wanted as well to give her away an Isaac Asimov book from your collection.

If this is piracy, I'm proud to be one. Cool
2192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 27, 2014, 12:52:01 PM
if you observe more than 3 posts of Sroomshy in 1 page the price according to my sources will be flat (+/- 5) Cool

There. FTFY!  Grin
2193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MAX] MaxCoin - MANDATORY UPDATE 9.3.1 - Sept 12 on: October 27, 2014, 08:16:14 AM
I've got the OSX Macoin wallet and it is still stuck on 'No block source available'. How long should I leave it until it gets a successful connection?

And if i do have to change anything, that would be my main gripe. For those who aren't savvy about the technicals, it should already be working without any changes.

That's what the problem is. The MAX wallet for OSX has issues. It was supposed to be updated but it's almost a month now. Anyone?
2194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MAX] MaxCoin - MANDATORY UPDATE 9.3.1 - Sept 12 on: October 26, 2014, 10:22:29 PM
Anyone has got any news regarding the OSX wallet? Has the project been abandoned? Hate to fire up a VM for storing my coins inside...
2195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
Back to low volume transactions and flat we go. It's one of those times that you wish you'd never got involved with BTC at all... and then; a spike occurs. An interesting week ahead, not more exciting than the next 20 days though...
2196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 11:24:35 AM
Whenever the trend reverses... YET another huge dump and down we go. Free market, no manipulation. Seems legit. Grin
2197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 08:44:43 AM
in my noob opinion, all this whale surely be big miner selling cheap coin because their miner already roi and they can sell at any price above electricity and still profit.  why they sell cheap, so that new miner are discouraged and keep them in power literally. this is a race to the fair price, which is their price for bitcoin. as new miner are discouraged they assume that difficulty will soon be lower further increase their profit.


true, and by the end of the year new or small years might also face the increasing difficulty problem, which might further decrease the number of small miners in the mining competition.

This is accurate. Another possibility is that the strongest remain last. Don't forget though, that when the halving occurs, the mining profits (at these prices) will be a "no go" towards any small or bigger farm. Interesting to see what happens by then though.
2198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
i'm gana... i'm gana take a walk.



later...

Cya later buddy. I'm off to sleep. Goodnight everyone from Greece.
2199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
351 wall is made of shitty fiat idk if its gana hold man  Undecided
Volatility is MIA for the last few months Adam, I say: Bring it on and let it roll! It's a great change for me to be able to look at the charts again! Smiley
2200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 23, 2014, 10:28:28 PM
If it drops below 300 for too long, the miners will lose their shorts. Granted, the newer miners are much more energy efficient, but the miners are partly to blame, they should hold more and just sell enough to pay for expenses, but I do think that some of this sell of is due to bitcoin thefts, there have been plenty of them in the past year, im only guessing, but thats all you can do in this fucking game. Im considering selling off and catching at the bottom, I feel that we may test 250 or lower.. I hope im wrong, but not if I sell, lol..

Ill stick to my guns and hodl, I just need to find some cash to buy at the low prices.
There has been a sort of a spike in days destroyed, earlier this month, so this may be accurate. I've expressed my musings on this and still think though, that it's been orchestrated by some (or many) large pools. At these prices, if you don't have a great stash of fiat/bitcoins you're simply out of business.

https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed
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