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As discussed, everybody's investment/living style is different. I hear from people who have rental properties that it is very bothersome because of the need to provide the upkeep (albeit you can hire a company that would "eat" into your income). That said, right now it is not very economical as well because income from rentals is roughly equal to what you get from a money market fund, while doing absolutely nothing and having virtually no risk. Canadian real estate has been appreciating for decades, though, so maybe this is a plus in your particular case. However, my personal opinion is that RE is vastly overpriced around here, so I cannot take this risk. I routinely see $$1.5-2 mil houses which I think should be more like $500-700K in value at most.
Renting can be nice. It only takes one bad renter or squatters to give you a really bad time though. Exactly … For in Belgium it’s almost impossible to get that renter out of the place as well… With renting out a place it only becomes a good thing when the place appreciates in value overtime. Otherwise with a good renter and no broken things you can have an extra income but still there are plenty of downsides as well… most of the time when the place appreciates in value and the renter is a good one then it’s a good thing. Very true. Renting out property can be a very bad experience, often leading to court cases, lawyers, and lots of wasted time and money. A colleague of mine rented a 3-bedroom apartment to a family. They paid 3-4 months rent and then stopped, and refused to leave. The police could not do anything--the case had to go to court, which would have taken a long time. Eventually, my colleague resorted to using the services of a local mafia ring! He paid them to go and beat the shit out of the tenants, threatening to break arms/legs and worse. The tenants got scared and left the place, after completely destroying it. The place was like a war zone, all electronics/appliances destroyed, taps/pipes bent, graffiti all over the walls. They even spread excrement on the walls. I own a second house, and was tempted to rent it out. After hearing this story, I decided not to. Not worth it. I'm OK financially, don't need the extra money, and certainly don't need to add worries and troubles to my life. |
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[...] I wouldn't call Bitcoin (or, perhaps, "Bitcoinism") a religion, although it may seemingly share some similarities with religion, mostly attributed to Bitcoin by those who don't understand it. It is not a religion, because it is based on objectively true, real-world, physical, repeatable, verifiable processes (i.e., math & science)
I can see that you are serious, especially since you use maths and sciences in the singular. Haha, I was thinking of putting "TM" next to "math & science"... , and does not rely at all on dogma or faith in a metaphysical set of principles.
There's gotta be some faith in there, even though there is a lot of laden maths and science.. I am not going to deny the existence of maths and science, yet one interesting thing about bitcoin is that it has some ways in which it ties back to human behavior, human incentives, which is the proof of work part that can be gamed and manipulated, but it would have a lot of difficulties to overcome the built in incentives and even the presumptions that man will work in his self-interest. Sure, many of us likely realize that satoshi came up with something that must be very close to a perfect design, but bitcoin is still man made and likely and invention and a discovery all at the same time. Even the traditional (and scientifically acceptable) notion of "trust" is taken out of the picture ("Don't trust, verify!"),
remember the Regan statement. Trust, but verify. We have to have some of that going on, too. Surely not every normie is going to want to or be able to run a node, so we have to have some trust and faith that some of the open source aspects of bitcoin are going to be checked-and-balanced by some other people who have the skills to do the checking (the crowd sourcing idea) and if enough eyes are on bitcoin, then likely any flaws that exist are going to mostly get fixed... maybe not perfectly, but perfectly enough.. and surely the older people might not be able to change careers and learn how to code and to check code, but we still have to figure out the extent to which we are going to run some of the software and the extent to which are going to try to verify some of the matters for ourselves, to the extent that we are able to verify, and maybe those difficulties to verify matters scare away some of the older people, but some younger people may well be more than willing to go down the road of learning some of those kinds of bitcoin-related things. [...] Not disagreeing with the above, or any part of your post, but I'd like to add a comment. All things considered, yes, there is an element of faith involved. A kind of faith that has always been there. Faith in humanity, perhaps? There's definitely some degree of faith in the Bitcoin code, in the sense that you're describing, i.e., faith in some competent coder(s) or institution(s) discovering (and disclosing) bugs or even backdoors that could compromise Bitcoin. This is unavoidable. We are all bound to this. We can't know everything about everything, so we trust the experts. And the more experts get involved, and the more time a piece of code is out there, verified, scrutinized, attacked, the more that faith gets transformed into fact. Not 100% in the rigorous, mathematical sense, it's not a proof, but pretty close. I see this as a kind of Darwinian law. Let it loose in the wild and see if it survives. Considering the fact that its market cap is nearly one trillion USD as we speak, it wouldn't be able to survive for so long if there was a fundamental flaw in the code. This is certainly not the kind of faith that is related to religion, where people blindly trust a single person or small group of people, who died hundreds or thousands of years ago in most cases, and who have said some pretty crazy, illogical, unprovable stuff, unprovable even by using the law of large numbers, so to speak... Returning to where this discussion originally started, I don't think an informed coiner has any reason to be bitter, toxic or aggressive towards nocoiners, aside from the occasional Bat-slap, rusty pipe, and other amusing funzies and mindrustenings. For one thing, a coiner, depending on the size of his/her stash, is likely not going to need to be bothered by the opinions of others in this matter. A bit of disappointment, perhaps, an urge to spread the word, maybe, but no bitterness, no hate. Just look at the price: $42,208 as I type this. How can you not believe? LOL
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For what it's worth, my experience with people of faith (mainly Christians, bus some from other religions), has been pretty negative, on average. I find many of them to be among the most aggressive, intolerant, arrogant, stubborn, closed-minded, bitter, toxic individuals I've ever met. For me, the fact that someone is deeply religious is a pretty accurate predictor of one or more of the above traits. There are exceptions, of course, but the norm seems to be like that. It's sad, really... I wouldn't wish it on anybody. I don't really like to subscribe to the theories of Bitcoin as a religion, but it seems that some of us can become the same way about bitcoin, and so to the outsiders (or the non-believers) or those who do not get bitcoin, we can come off in those kinds of similar ways in terms of our having a kind of vision that might not be shared by others - and so many times, even when people are seeming to be closed-minded and stubborn, they frequently will still like to consider themselves as being reasonable and open to a variety of views, but at the same time, are going to be wedded towards seeing the world through their own ways of framing matters... .. so I am not sure, I am feeling mixed on the topic regarding how strongly even some people feel about their beliefs, because they might actually be open in regards to some topics, while at the same time being stubborn in other topics... and yeah, sure, I have met people who are irritating to be around.. and sure sometimes it might go back to seeming to be about religion, but I am not sure the difficulties of dealing with others is merely religion.. Of course, in recent times, we have been seeing a lot of political divides, and so worship of the state or being anti-state and then dividing of camps on these kinds of grounds, but then how much anyone divides or how much they believe their party might resolve their issues might depend upon which issue(s) we are discussing.. and looking towards leaders to rescue us from our broken money system while not necessarily recognizing that the various aspects of the broken money system might be the cause of the problems and/or disagreements about not getting enough, while at the same time blaming the problem on other kinds of ways that there are inequalities and differences of opinion regarding how the pie should get divided. I wouldn't call Bitcoin (or, perhaps, "Bitcoinism") a religion, although it may seemingly share some similarities with religion, mostly attributed to Bitcoin by those who don't understand it. It is not a religion, because it is based on objectively true, real-world, physical, repeatable, verifiable processes (i.e., math & science), and does not rely at all on dogma or faith in a metaphysical set of principles. Even the traditional (and scientifically acceptable) notion of "trust" is taken out of the picture ("Don't trust, verify!"), and this is precisely what makes Bitcoin so important, so revolutionary, so scientifically significant. Contrast this with religion, where everything is based on metaphysics, dogma, and blind faith in some supernatural, all-knowing, all-powerful entity, whose existence appears to be unprovable by design. Blind faith in the success or superiority of Bitcoin, just because some fancy, self-proclaimed Bitcoin "priest" says so, is the wrong way to approach this (did you know that Craig S. Wright is [also] a theologian, and calls himself a " pastor"?). Satoshi Nakamoto is no God, and the White Paper is not some Bitcoin bible to be worshiped and blindly accepted as truth, but a scientific paper, open to scrutiny and experimental evaluation. This evaluation (which is extremely brutal, as there's big money involved) has been going on for nearly 15 years non-stop, and no fundamental flaws have been found. Even with such a great track record, I will be the first to reject Bitcoin the moment a weakness is discovered in its code base, that makes the code so fundamentally flawed that it cannot be patched. Surely, I will be deeply disappointed if this ever happens, but I don't expect it to happen any time soon, if ever. This reminds me of Bitconnect (some old lulz here), where all the people in the video were effectively disciples of a religion/cult, driven by greed. And we all know what happened. Not with Bitcoin. This is science, not metaphysics, and those who see it that way are missing the point. But I do see the logic behind the points you're making. Humans have a tendency to want to "belong" to some superior group, call it a society, cult, religion, whatever. So people may see Bitcoin as a kind of special club they want to belong to, even though they don't understand it. Come to think of it, still good for them if they become coiners, as long as they stick to BTC, rather than BSV, BCH, or other "crypto" varieties. That's why understanding is so important. |
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AYH attained.
Everything's green on my screen.
Q1 should be fun.
Chopper's rising high,
Soon to reach $70k.
Elon's rocket next?
Buffett said it best:
Getting richer while you sleep.
Living while awake.
Pre-Halving action:
ETF, then God candle.
Then Halving top-up.
First they ignore you,
Then price gets to 6 digits,
Then you get the calls...
No coincidence,
That "religion" and "prison",
Rhyme well together...
Not much else to say...
Even with a U-shaped dick,
A coiner life's good!
#7wodigestsundayhaikus
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Another fun fact :
Christianity also revolitionized the Music and made the world more bearable and fun.
Happy Holidays Beautiful Christians !
Well, then i'm probably missing the fun?! As an ex-member of the Christian Church, but as a man who is acting on Christian values, more than less, i can only say that the Christian Church is not acting very Christian, probably almost never did. I believe Jesus Christ would turn in his grave if he knew how things turned out regarding "Christianity". I wonder if Jesus Christ, if still alive, would be a Bitcoiner... I bet you are mising out on a lot. I bet you werent very Christian either.. It is not about the Church either dumbo.. I believe the same for Muslims how it all turned out. Cant cure human nature eh dumbo?!? Imagine thinking Jesus of all People would need or Have Bljatcoijns.. Listen to yourself 😆 Spoiler alert.. He would snap it out of existence. oh dumbo dumbo.. whats gonna come from you huh 😆 Turn the other cheek? Love thy neighbor? He who is without sin cast the first stone? Guess those only apply when it's convenient huh? For what it's worth, my experience with people of faith (mainly Christians, bus some from other religions), has been pretty negative, on average. I find many of them to be among the most aggressive, intolerant, arrogant, stubborn, closed-minded, bitter, toxic individuals I've ever met. For me, the fact that someone is deeply religious is a pretty accurate predictor of one or more of the above traits. There are exceptions, of course, but the norm seems to be like that. It's sad, really... I wouldn't wish it on anybody. |
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OT: UNLV is upsetting...professor (even if currently unemployed or underemployed) shooting other professors, possibly because they did not hire him. The last part is a conjecture, but he was looking for a job there and did not get one. Make you want NOT to be on hiring committees  . "...Polito earned a master’s degree in business from Duke University in 1991 and a Ph.D. in philosophy from the University of Georgia in 2002"
You can never be too careful around those wanna be philosophers - especially those from the Cynical school of philosophy - isn't that right, Antisthenes? "He wanted papers stacked in a certain way on his desk, and there was this one pen that I wasn’t allowed to touch [...]" This behavior suggests Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), like Asperger Syndrome (AS) or similar. These conditions can even be beneficial if they are manageable, but can lead to incidents like the above if they cross a critical threshold. BTW, Craig S. Wright has them too... |
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Killing someone at a distance of 2.5 miles is impressive! The bullet would typically take more than 5 seconds to reach the target. And then there is the ballistics to take into account. |
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finally a wall worth to observe! looks massive! You will watch with awe how it's going to be sliced like butter when we break $50k next week. |
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Interesting article https://www.kitco.com/news/2023-12-05/Bitcoin-breaches-44k-as-BlackRock-secures-seed-capital-for-spot-BTC-ETF.html"BlackRock sees a high probability that its application will be approved, and Bloomberg Intelligence ETF analysts Eric Balchunas and James Seyffart say there is a 90% chance that the first spot BTC ETF will be approved by Jan. 10. Max Keiser, a well-known Bitcoin maximalist, has also caused a stir of speculation by tweeting about “rumors” that the sovereign wealth fund for Qatar – which is responsible for managing the nation’s vast oil and gas-generated wealth – is “looking to buy” $500 billion worth of Bitcoin. Keiser suggested that this could lead to a “$100,000 God Candle” on the BTC chart" God candle! I like the sound of that! |
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Another day, another AYH. Getting richer while sleeping and all... Life's good. #blessed$43K in one hour confirmed  I concur. |
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Think Bitcoin, Bitcoin is every where, Saylor said.  I get more excited when I see Bitcoin passed $40k. Though the shade makes the picture a little weird Yeah, and her head appears smaller than it should be... AI? (knuckles seem OK) |
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[...] 3. Pfff. I see this every night man. Check this out. Thanks a ton, AlcoHoDL, for putting my search for the perfect christmas present to an end  Glad I helped. I don't actually own it, but thinking about buying it. I discovered it a few days ago, in one of Sabine Hossenfelder's videos: YouTube — The Do's and Don't's of Good Sleep, According to ScienceYou can get 15% off your order if you purchase it by clicking her link in the video's description. I hope it is as good as it looks in the video... Found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WWvYCSq_uwGo near the end of the video, there's a half priced alternative made by "BlissLights". Looks like the same asian product got re-branded by more than one "manufacturer"  Good find. I looked for "BlissLights Sky Lite 2.0" and found the site for it, but it says "Out of stock". Amazon too. Edit: There are some similar products on the BlissLights site, not sure how similar they are, will check it out. I have a thing for lighting, and this sure looks very interesting, both for myself and as a gift. |
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[...] 3. Pfff. I see this every night man. Check this out. Thanks a ton, AlcoHoDL, for putting my search for the perfect christmas present to an end Glad I helped. I don't actually own it, but thinking about buying it. I discovered it a few days ago, in one of Sabine Hossenfelder's videos: YouTube — The Do's and Don't's of Good Sleep, According to ScienceYou can get 15% off your order if you purchase it by clicking her link in the video's description. I hope it is as good as it looks in the video... |
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1. Huh? That looks like a salted caramel donut. My favorite, but the good doctor says I should cut down on those... 2. Have you ever been to Nebraska? 3. Pfff. I see this every night man. Check this out. |
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Another attempt at crossing $42k forming.
Volume rising.
ETF nearing.
December will be fun.
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Ok we need a new poll @infofront
AYH for this year what will it be?
And one of the answers to pick should be "ATH". |
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