Virtual money really sounds a bit like playmoney. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Though the first thought they will have is something like paypal. It is virtual money. Only on the internet. Easily spoken. And i doubt that someone gets the creeps from the word crypto. Yes, it might be that not everyone knows that crypto means encryption or something hidden but those people who likely will use bitcoin will know. It is still widely a geek currency. And they know what crypto is. So the impression is encrypted money, something hidden. Sounds like safe money. Everyone who doesn't know what crypto means most probably is not our target group for the moment. They won't understand and the internet most probably is something far away for them anyway. I know how the sheeple thinks so I think that it's just best if we got with digital currency. Virtual/internet/etc is not a good prefix because it implies non-existence, or lack of seriousity. People will think that its no big deal or not a real money (as if their fiat is ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) , we have to make it sound like serious , but not too serious because then they get scared of it. Crypto is also not good because it implies geekyness (how are you going to get 20 year old girls to use it?) and especially old folks, they will think it's their grave ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) So you have to understand that the sheeple doesnt think, they are based on emotions. So we have to find an emotionally neutral definition = digital currency is perfect imo ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I know what you mean but i think digital currency is already something that has a place in the mind of those noobs hearing it. They will think of money on the internet. And the first thoughts will be paypal, skrill, mpesa and so on. Digital currency is not specific enough to show that bitcoin really is a groundbreaking new thing.
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Hm, sounds like an interesting idea. Though you would have to assume that the largest shareholders would all be ok with screwing everyone then. I know many scammers are in bitcoin world but i somehow doubt that this could easily happen.
Though maybe it was no payout for the largest shareholders but for friedcats direct partners he built the company from the ground. There were a couple of them right? Three maybe?
And would the amount of bitcoins paid out make sense as a payment for the success of the company and for keeping silent over all things happened? I think they would not be happy if friedcat would take a enourmous share and they get, comparable, peanuts.
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Why? The rewards for miners are way way too high. Nowadays the networks hashpower is 100 times higher then it would be needed. The consequences of this are that each and every transactions costs electricity of the size 1.75 average US-households use each day. Bigger transactions cost even more.
How do you know that? Or, to put it in a different perspective, the rewards (taken cumulatively) are what the market sets them to be. If Bitcoin was cheaper, less miners would be interested in mining... That is from a study published some weeks, or months ago. The price of the currency unfortunately can't be found as the price of the currency and at the same time be found as the fair reward for miners. That doesn't work. So the price get's established by the users but the effect is that mining is so rewarding that bitcoin is a huge energy waste at the moment. Well, better then the opposite, bitcoin would die when it would be not secure enough. But still a problem i think.
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will not happen. it's something you can't mess with as satoshi made bitcoin in the way he think it will work in the best way possible for us. the community would defenitely not agree with this.
What is community? I think the reward halving might have devastating consequences on the Bitcoin ecosystem. People seem to forget that Bitcoin is not just a digital currency. It is also a payment system which is backing up this currency, and its success (or failure) predetermines Bitcoin's ultimate destiny as money... Why do you think it will have a devastating effect on the bitcoin ecosystem? The price of bitcoin is determined of the believe of those holding, selling and buying. The reward for miners does play no role in this I have explained my premises in another thread. In the simplest of terms, Bitcoin is more like a Ponzi right now. No one exchanges anything of real value ("real stuff") for it at the moment. Then again, the miners' reward is part of Bitcoin supply, their bitcoins are no different from someone else's, thereby it cannot be discarded as having no role in the price discovering mechanism (which directly affects the beliefs of those who hold, buy and sell)... If you stop considering just the nominal reward rate (25 BTC or whatever) and instead take the number of bitcoins that miners earn as an aggregate, you will see where your reasoning fails I think you make it too complicated. Yes, the reward is some kind of inflation maybe but in fact it isn't. The price ONLY get's established on the exchanges and markets. Which means only what all users believe bitcoin should be worth will be what bitcoin will be worth. And miner rewards and other things seems to have no impact on that. No real stuff, that is way too hard. The adoption is not as it should but still good. And real value... everytime someone buys bitcoins with fiat or sells it for fiat it means he puts value into bitcoin or takes it out of bitcoin.
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Na bitcoin.de wäre mir zu riskant. Da weiß man nie von wo man es bekommt oder ob clevererweise bitcoin auf der Überweisung steht. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Ich kenne ja dein Volumen nicht aber bei meinen paar tausend Euro im Jahr kratzt das meine Bank bisher nicht. (Volksbank) Alles ausschließlich über Bitcoin.de und Bitstamp gehandelt. Bei Bitcoin.de war bis jetzt bei ~50 Transaktionen zu 100% NUR der Pin-Code im Verwendungszweck. Da hat nie jemand "Bitcoin.de" oder so etwas reingeschrieben. Bei Bitstamp steht halt Bitstamp drin aber auch nichts vom Keyword "Bitcoin" in dem Sinne meine ich, ist schon länger her. Momentan eher niedriges Volumen. Aber trotzdem kommt mir bitcoin.de riskant vor. Gab es da nicht einige Fälle wo mit gestohlenen Bankkontodaten bezahlt wurde?
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yeah why need to add higher limit when 1 mb is just more than enough, its useless and pointless I'm not so sure that this is right for the current rally. A lot of legit transactions fill the mempools. If many noobs are in it they might get the impression bitcoin is slow. Not something good for bitcoin adoption.
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Is there any further progress with this ? thanks for any info ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm pretty sure there is no progress or at least when there is progress he would not be allowed to speak about. I think that is a real fundamental flaw in the law system. The things that can be said should find it's way in the newspapers. Sorry that i can't say more but it seems the handcuffs that law system lays on are quite hefty and punishable. Acting against that could be deadly in more than one way. So i think abinding on these rules is the only way to have a chance at all. Just wanna say thanks Sebastian for all the writing back and forth ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We will monitor this tread and see what happens.... No problem. I agreed on that when i agreed to be the escrow. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well and no new info is right unfortunately. It all hangs on the lawsuit and the special rules that are around it. It would not help anything if he spoke about what goes on and would instantly risk the whole case because of that. I imagine his role is not an easy one. All the pressure on him and he is not allowed to talk.
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Hopefully not too many noobs with them that could get the impression bitcoin is lame and slow.
Edit: I have a poloniex withdraw with enough fee that hangs since hours. And if really no spam is going on then i really would wish that some people wake up and realize that this IS a real problem.
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I am also in need of your escrow service, please let me know when your free, I will be available for probably another hour or so
I check this thread not so regularly, your chances are better to reach me via pm. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Yes SebastianJu I see that. I think 23who23 is trying to scam me, because in his screenshot you (SebastianJu) clearly stated that you won't escrow any account above $50, but 23who23 sent me a pm saying that you accepted to escrow for us. 23who23, you are so stupid, if you try to scam people at least put it some thought and effort.
I sent such a pm though the message said that i don't escrow bitcointalk accounts that are worth less than $50 anymore. The risk involved, the huge amount of time to spend on an account worth so few made no sense to me anymore since i had to use hours a day for those accounts. I agreed to do this trade because this is an account where the risk is considerably higher.
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By the way, here the very first pm i received from him about his sale: escrow « Sent to: SebastianJu on: November 03, 2015, 04:49:08 » « You have forwarded or responded to this message. » Reply with quoteQuote ReplyReply Remove this messageDelete !!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!! Hello!
Can I count on you for a deal as a escrow? I want to sell one of my accounts. You see, it was a day and 10 hours ago when he announced the sale.
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I have read the thread and yes, he contacted me some time ago to tell me that he wants to sell an account.
Though i don't know really what to say. It is unfortunately relatively common that users fake other users. Iam was faked by numerous new members with little variations in the name or by quotes that someone claimed came from me.
So if buybitcoinsquickly is right and these first fake pm's exist then there are some explainations in my eyes.
Either someone saw that you bid so many coins and that you don't care paying a premium. So a scammer thought that it is a nice idea to get these coins and created some newbie accounts.
Second idea would be that the seller really did that, it would not be a big risk since nobody could prove that he was it. But it would not be so very smart since he nearly had sold his account already, if there is any. Care to show me the account? Send me a pm from it maybe. I won't reveal it.
Third idea would be that buybitcoinsquickly was angry, he acted angry all the time, and created these other accounts to libel the seller and destroy his auction.
One way to prove this would be to prove that there exists a pm the seller sent where he claims that i gave him an address. I didn't. I would give the address to both parties always. So if a mod can prove that he really sent such a pm then it would be proof. Before something like that happens it would all depend on the word of a bidder who did not win the auction. I'm not sure if that should be believed so fast.
Let me know if i can help finding out the truth.
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The story sounds strange. As if Hitler would speak with that Mufti. Or take advice from him. Though what might be true is that there were jewish religious extremists that thought a biblical prophecy has to be fullfilled in order to give the jews their own land. See the fifth paragraph here: http://www.trumpetsounds.com/howawful.html (No, i did not really check if the website is political correct, only wanted a reference.) Though that Hitler takes advices from jews and that he wanted to help the Mufti so that jews don't go to palestine is simply stupid. Hitler had plans of deportation though first.
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Dont ask them, get attatched to them and wait for the right moment till you get signs from her. Saving for jesus ? JESUS !
Not asking her if she wants to lose her virginity is the right step, it would be too awkward. But not doing anything at all might make you lose her. She might think you are not interested in her or sex at all. Do the small steps... touching, kissing, touching at sensitive areas and so on. If she doesn't want be ok with it, if you love her. You need to show her that you want it and that you can handle her. It has a learning curve. Simply don't be in fear. If she loves you you can make errors. At least if you don't show a bad character at all. Good luck with it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Wasn't there some horrorstory of an eastern dictator where they found huge microwaves they claimed were used to burn his enemies?
Well, i think the feeling probably must be similar to being burnt alive. So nothing mankind didn't do already thousands of years ago. Unfortunately.
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That is some good insight and many things are things i had to learn already the hard way. Still i do errors i feel later that i should have known it before because i should have not done it with the knowledge i have. Mostly emotions of all kinds are involved when it comes to this. Emotions are the hardest thing to control in this game. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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will not happen. it's something you can't mess with as satoshi made bitcoin in the way he think it will work in the best way possible for us. the community would defenitely not agree with this.
What is community? I think the reward halving might have devastating consequences on the Bitcoin ecosystem. People seem to forget that Bitcoin is not just a digital currency. It is also a payment system which is backing up this currency, and its success (or failure) predetermines Bitcoin's ultimate destiny as money... Why do you think it will have a devastating effect on the bitcoin ecosystem? The price of bitcoin is determined of the believe of those holding, selling and buying. The reward for miners does play no role in this. In fact the halving should come to make bitcoin better. And we should avoid trying to enforce a "fee market" by forcing bitcoin transactions in 1MB blocks, like some propose. Why? The rewards for miners are way way too high. Nowadays the networks hashpower is 100 times higher then it would be needed. The consequences of this are that each and every transactions costs electricity of the size 1.75 average US-households use each day. Bigger transactions cost even more. This is not healthy. Miners had to be switched off as unprofitable. This has to happen again. The reward halving is a welcome step.
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i rather by a very good bicycle like the race on, car are overrated, you don't need a car in the city
much more healthy in this way and less costly, no gasoline, warranty etc...
Though you not only drive in the city alone. Maybe in huge cities. But even then, you are slow on longer distances, which means you lose time, which is money somehow. And you don't want to drive your girlfriend around on the backseat of your bike too. Girls look, don't believe emanzipation, still to what a man has reached to create a life for both of them. a well i don't have a girlfriend, and i don't think i need one, i can do 50 Km/h easily in a bicycle, this is more than enough to move from place in the city to another place always in the same city i can only agree if we are talking about travelling outside your city, to reach a new one, but there are bus for that... 50km/h is a lot in the city. Especially better than most cars in rush hour. And yes, if you don't go to parties or so then busses are fine too. Otherwise they don't drive at good times at the night too. Except it's a really big city. keep in mind that with all the traffic lights, that we have here, basically every 500 meters or so, you can't really go mad with speed, so a 20-30km/h in most cases will suffice, which is a joke if you have good legs i don't know how many there are where you live, but traffic lights are helping more us cyclist than anything ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yeah i know, since you can cross the streets, use the streets and all. Though hopefully you don't drive as crazy as these new york bike couriers. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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The only problem I have with Bitcoin being wide spread is that technology isn't even wide spread. There are people out there who do not have computers. Granted, most people growing up now will be fine with it but I don't see it becoming a HUGE adoption for another 20-30 years
Nowadays? Oo I really don't know anyone that comes to mind in the moment that does not own a computer, notebook or smartphone. Well, it might be different in developing countries but very often they have smartphones there. They have nothing but smartphones they have... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.
I mean it really can't be that hard for shareholders in china to investigate this, isn't it? Check out his wife, his employers and all. And surely you will get your own image of everything. Alone that fact that we "believe" that the story about his wife is only an invention is stupid somehow. Nobody can check it? Really? That sounds unbelieveable. If i would have been heavily invested AND still had enough money to do it, i surely would fly there for a month and check everything out. That this didn't happen is puzzling me... really. Nothing but mist clouds in this case.
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