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2201  Economy / Speculation / Re: will the beginning of 2019 btc rise? on: September 16, 2018, 12:13:55 PM
We hope so that bitcoin and even the altcoins when 2019 comes will increase the value. New year new hope that possible will give to the coin who already dump in this yearm but better we can work this year let's start pumping again the value of the coins don't wait for 2019 do it this year.

Well we can only hope dude. Anything we do can't really affect the market unless we're.whales so we can just hope that good things happen in the next few months. A lot are still bullish in the long run though but that's counting probably years from now.
2202  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will reach $50k this year as predicted? on: September 16, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
As predicted earlier in this year BTC will reach $50k in the last quarter of this year. Do you believe? Need some opinion,pls drop your messages here.








And if you have some extra merit you can drop some of those. Thanks much appreciated. Grin Cheesy

Can you remind please who did that prediction ? 3.5 months left and I guess most people would be so happy if we will reach again the 20k$ level, but still have some doubts even on 20k$ level, not talking of a higher target yet..

Hell i'd be jumping with joy if we even reach 15k lol. Anyone can make predictions as bold as that but you also have to look at whatks happening. Of course the possibility is still there for the remaining quarter, but i find it really difficult to see how we can jump from 6.5k to 50k in 3 months.
2203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Better Late than Never? on: September 16, 2018, 12:07:46 PM
The reason I didn't buy in January 2013 was because I thought I was too late.... Never a bad idea to buy bitcoin on its lows.

haha, that is exactly right. I saw the graphic of BTC and saw that we are so far away from the starting point, where I thought in 2013 we can always return. However, I did buy some in 2014 .
Right now at least you have some charts and see where the token been and what kind of growth you can expect if it will hit the new highs. The choice is now huge, but it is easier to make, as you see what success those projects do have currently and if they deliver everything according to the roadmap. Decide now or regret later Smiley

Well you can't go back in time right so make the most of the current situation. I don't think anyone in 2013 though that btc would even value half it's current price. We wouldn't really know but successful people are those that are not afraid of taking risks.
2204  Economy / Speculation / Re: When to buy more? wait till 6000 or 5500? on: September 16, 2018, 11:58:36 AM
Technical data hints that it can go down to 6000 or 5500 level.
What do you think?
Btc is $6.5k today. It will not fall now. So buy at this moment and at the last of the year you can earn huge amount of profits because it will touch $20k at the end of the year. Now don't wait for btc to fall to $5500, it seems to be impossible. I am very sure that btc will not fall from $6.2k now, but still don't wait , buy btc at this moment and wait for the peak prices.

I'm pretty comfortable in buying at this price range actually. I mean it can go below 6k but we're almost at the 4th quarter of the year where the movement usually starts to go positive so i wouldn't want to be missing out while waiting for the price to drop more.
2205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bearish again? (Back at $5500) on: September 16, 2018, 11:56:24 AM
The Bitcoin pirce trend has always been clamped within $5500-6000. The spike pricing $7000 was too synthetic since an increase if 1k in a day was a bit sketchy. Will we ever see pricing skyrocketing again? What are your thoughts?
I think that for a very skyrocketing price, it will be very much later by the bounty hunters, hopefully by the end of this year the price of bitcoin will skyrocket again.

We probably will see less of that skyrocketing price prices now for any coin. Of course pumps and dumps will always be there as well as recoveries and corrections but a x100 or more movement could be pretty much unlikely.
2206  Economy / Speculation / Re: The value of Bitcoin is rising again? on: September 16, 2018, 11:52:10 AM
We are having some draw backs again because the market is dependent more on fundamental than on the technical analysis. It will rise again in the coming days
You can still apply technical analysis if that is what you want but with the market as it is, it is going to take a lot of effort to make profits, in normal market conditions more than 80% of the traders lose their money then it is very likely that with the market as it is probably 90% of all the traders are going to lose money, so only trade in this market if you are really good because if you don't then you will lose money.

Long time traders are aware of that i'm sure. They've seen and lived through this kind of  market before and though the scenarios are quite different given bitcoin's popularity now, they understand that it can't be down all the time.
2207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Bitcoin will not hit 20000 soon? on: September 16, 2018, 11:48:37 AM
Bitcoin's growth began in early 2017 and then it touch 20000. Bitcoin's largest growth is due to the ability to trade with tether dollar. With this growth, a huge growth in ICOs appeared. Nowadays about 30 ICOs are added to the market. This huge volume of ICOs, has taken the power of bitcoin growth. Like weeds next to a tree. Bitcoin will not grow until ICOs exists.
No, icos grew in price when the market was hot and the market was hot because investors were putting their money in bitcoin and they decided to invest in all kind of speculative coins not understanding why they were doing, if what you said was right icos should be dominating the market now and growing like we have never seen them before, but the opposite is happening with icos barely reaching their soft caps and trading way below their ico price after they are listed in an exchange.

Yes, that is true. I recently read an article about ico. Basically only a handful of icos made it far enough. I recently looked at ico stats and the statistics were not so bright for much of the recent ICO's. In a sense, projects attracted attention to crypto space because it looked innovative, a fintech revolution. Thus, people invested in ICO's but the ICO's teams don't invest in Bitcoin alternatively. So yes, lots of link between two subjects.
This is what is keeping icos down, it seemed that we were seeing some kind of revolution similar to what we saw with the dot com bubble, but now people have realized that it was not the case and many icos were nothing but scams or projects that were released by developers that had no idea what they were doing and now no one wants to invest in icos for the time being.

And that's why i don't think icos will have any significant effect in bitcoin movement this year or the years after. 20k is still achievable of course though people who bought in close to that value would have to have enormous amount of patience to hold that long.
2208  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will actually happen if bitcoin price continue to drop? on: September 16, 2018, 11:45:35 AM
Honestly, I don't think the price is going to fall further but we cannot really eliminate any possibility in crypto market. So, if the price keeps falling I think the miners will get affected the most. I have heard from my miner friends that the total cost of mining a Bitcoin is nearly 6,000$ now. So, once the price goes below that point, it will be very difficult for them to continue mining and getting profit out of that.

Well it's the miners that suffer really more than traders when the price plummets and there are those that would think about shifting to mining other coins that'll cost less. But i think they also understand that this won't go on forever and eventually the value will recover.
2209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Mysteries on: September 16, 2018, 07:33:07 AM
What are some of the mysteries you are curious about?

For example,
Who are the whales
How is the market manipulated
And so on

Can be any story about your experience related to crypto markets
From the over all sentiment to the big idealist/realist goals we are headed from and to

My curiosity is how the whales are playing between each other and how analysts see these behaviour and how they find it

I don't think analysts can exacty point out how these whales play unless they're inside their circle. And i would't call it a mystery as to how they manipulate priced since they have enough assets to do so. I'm curious though about who or what satoshi nakamoto is lol.
2210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Market END or MANIPULATION? on: September 16, 2018, 07:27:07 AM
how can ETH, which was supposed to be a "stable" coin, drop a 85% since ATH? taking in mind it is also used by nearly 90% of ICOs nowadays.. how can drop that much the price? absolutely nonsense
No, it was not because the Ethereum network is having some problem in terms of scalability which was also confirmed by their CEO and was the cause of Ethereum pumping the 85% you mention. Although, still gain the heart of ICOs owner but not investors and crypto trader.

Well what happened to btc happened to eth after hitting their respective aths it seems. But does it warrant panic about the end? I don't think so. As we're seeing the market now, btc is holding strong around the 6.5k level while eth has just jumped back abive 200usd. Good days are coming.
2211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin ready to pump (september 2018)? on: September 16, 2018, 07:21:02 AM
Well, it looks like bitcoin is just preparing for the pump, but until now it hasn't happened. Well, according to what I see, the price of bitcoin is even stable at the price of $ 6500 at the moment. well, I just hope that the price of bitcoin will rise in the past few weeks.

Well a lot of people are saying that an etf approval would start a run and it could very well do but not really something to compare to other pumps in the past. I'm happy if we get a run that could get us past 8 or 9k.
2212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Market Will ‘Absolutely’ Grow 1000x and More on: September 16, 2018, 07:17:02 AM
Well it's a good news mate .but i don't think people will believe on this kind of news because of being so hopeless as of now about the current situation of the market.  by the way thanks for sharing this good news mate because it's a big help to convince more investors to be brave on this circumstance. 

Well not being optimistic about that much growth isn't being hopeless but just a little realistic. Of course there's still a lot of room to grow for the entire market but i don't think a thousand times is likely. Bitcoin especially probably will have a steady growth but with everything that happened, i'm not expecting another '17 run.
2213  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fight between BTC and BCH communities drive away people from cryptos itself. on: September 16, 2018, 05:52:14 AM
Though I haven't seen any fight between BCH and BTC community, maybe only BCH owner claimed BCH is better than Bitcoin. A true bitcoin supporter won't fight with any other coins, because at the end of the day, we all know, we need bitcoin more than anything in the crypto field.


This fight is over a long time ago. Bch did have a good run last year when it was hyped up by statements from roger ver, that posed a challenge to btc but that didn't actually last very long. And when bitcoin made the late year rally, people forgot about bch.
2214  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we change the public's view of Crypto world? on: September 16, 2018, 05:49:09 AM
to change the view of bitcoin i think we should tell them about all thing that we know about bitcoin from the good things or a bad things that we know and i think we can tell them the advantages by using the bitcoin digital currency and many more

That would be difficult since you'll be going against the negative informstion being fed by the media. It's your word against such big institutions. Probably you can start with people that actually trust you and hope they spread to others what you've imparted them
2215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Uncertainty of Bitcoin's Value on: September 16, 2018, 05:46:38 AM
The price of bitcoin is in many ways unpredictable. It is also most likely that she is manipulated by whales. However, they do this in order to make a profit. If we understand the mechanics of this process, we can understand that there is nothing dangerous in such manipulation. Whales can not hold a market with low prices for a long time, otherwise they themselves will lose profit. Therefore, the growth of the market will be vseravno. We just need patience.

And these whales do make big profit so why can't you? You have to think like them to be able to ride with the waves that these whales make. There's no sense in dwelling in things you can't control  and are constant like bitcoin's ever changing value.
2216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you were to spread the word of Bitcoin.. on: September 16, 2018, 05:42:36 AM
Ofcourse you need to find for a person who is willing to be educated about it.A person who have determination and knowledge to understand what bitcoin is,techy persons will be the best examples.Teach them the basics about it and you'll be shocked that they will research on their own if they really want to deal with bitcoin

Well techy people would have already heard ir come across bitcoin at this point. What you would like to help understand it more would be the regular peeps who are being fed wrong and negative information everyday. That would really be a challenge though and you have to have a pretty decent reputation 😛
2217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will kill itself on: September 16, 2018, 05:38:10 AM
About the fact that bitcoin is dying or that bitcoin will soon destroy itself we have heard many times. All these dramatic and tragic predictions are nothing more than manipulations. I do not believe in that.

most people are almost unconvinced by the news that bitcoin will destroy itself, because the proof is not true, and they are likely to want to damage the reputation of bitcoin. so that bitcoinn decreases. continuously.

Yeah these have very shallow basis or based purely on rumors. Those that are still in the market today know all too well not to believe in these kinds of fud inspiring speculations.
2218  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How does bitcoin affects your emotional and mental aspect of your life? on: September 15, 2018, 03:06:35 PM
Bitcoin affected me in the most positive way, because I began to earn well, and this was my biggest goal in life. And it is the fulfillment of this goal makes me happy.
For influence, I think most users get a positive influence on their finances, but we know that bitcoin is at risk as prices fall very quickly and maybe it will hurt you very much, and if you don't get ready it might have a bad effect on you like your psychic shaken, or your head is dizzy

Right. It's not all rainbows and unicorns the way newbies see it. There's a huge risk in this market and it can also give you anxiety and stress. I know a lot who lost money or are having less sleep trying to monitor the price of their losing investments.
2219  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the existence of bitcoins a threat to jobs and national currencies? on: September 15, 2018, 02:54:16 PM
We all know how powerful bitcoins are especially in financial terms. Having one makes you feel like a newly-crowned king ready for his throne and lux. Its value and essence is something that we cannot just ignore, resulting for some people relying on these 'God-given grace' instead of working hard and gaining the money that their own country uses. Some thought that it would be better off to have bitcoins and convert it into any kind of currency rather than to get a job and earn some thing. What do you think? Will bitcoin be able to eclipse the existence of national currencies in the near future?
 

People tend not to look for jobs and earn their country's currency because the have the impression that crypto currencies value are on the increase and their value will never go down in contrast to most of the countries currency that has no value and devalues day by day

Well some bankers think that if crypto grows to mass adoption it could threaten them. That's why you won't see a lot of banks saying something good about bitcoin. Though we're looking at several years for this scenario.
2220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SHOULD WE GET ALL HATERS OF BITCOIN OUT OF HERE? on: September 15, 2018, 02:52:13 PM
This forum was created for people to learn more about bitcoin and not to hate it or spread false information about it. Guys, is it enough that these days we sit here Angry and here all sorts of FUD being spread about bitcoin saying all sorts of things which are not true???
Let's not forget that it is as a result of these these FUDs that brings all sorts of panic sells which brings the value of bitcoin down and what bores me is that at the end the come back here and say, "Finally bitcoin is dead" forgetting the very fact that they were the very ones that caused it. But they can't because bitcoin is still strong.

I think we should! Kicking the bitcoin haters in this forum is acceptable for a reason that first of all, this forum was created in order for those people who do believe in cryptocurrency will gain informations and knowledge about the bitcoin. It is a way or a platform to have the latest and current news and situation of bitcoin. It is exclusive for the believers of bitcoin so the haters or bashers aren't welcome here. They only spread the fake and negative news without thinking and considering the true circumstances of bitcoin in our society.

Well a free discussion is actually healthy for those studying and researching to be able to assess from both sides. I think we should filter those that are obviously just trying to be negative without any basis and just for the sake of it. Some people who have negative views are actually coming from a pretty sound observation or experience.
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