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2221  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any football betting site best current ? on: April 25, 2015, 08:11:58 PM

hmm this isnt true about jetwin
jetwin has instant cashouts,jetwin also has a casino
these should be updated,plus they deserve a much bigger grade

Thanks. I will update the list and agree that Jetwin is a good book. If there are any more mistakes, please post them.

and also jetwin minimum bet isnt 0.01 its less,i know becuse i once betted 7mbtc on one of my parlays
you have lots of things to update

Thanks again.

Books, if there are more mistakes,post them here to update the spreadsheet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

2222  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any football betting site best current ? on: April 25, 2015, 08:09:26 PM
Hi Peeps Place,

This is really a great appreciation not only for me but also for most people who want to bet. It's too great for me to refer

I sincere thanks for your help !
You're welcome.
2223  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any football betting site best current ? on: April 25, 2015, 08:04:05 PM

hmm this isnt true about jetwin
jetwin has instant cashouts,jetwin also has a casino
these should be updated,plus they deserve a much bigger grade

Thanks. I will update the list and agree that Jetwin is a good book. If there are any more mistakes, please post them.
2224  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any football betting site best current ? on: April 25, 2015, 07:59:48 PM
2225  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 25, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
Majicmexican
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At this point i am forced to leave the negative feedback.

Ddos or not, holding the funds for that long and stopping answering my emails is unacceptable.
2226  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 24, 2015, 04:18:01 AM
4/23/15

Magicmexican
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Ye i stil cant withdraw part of my funds, i've been trying since april 17. I will give them another 24 hours and then i think it will be in my rights to give them negative feedback.

BTCBook 
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Hey everyone,

We are working to get the site back up now.

We have been hit with a few DDOS attacks over the past week, including another one last night, and have had to switch servers a few times to help mitigate the attacks.

All funds are safe and all withdrawals will be processed as soon as possible.

Thanks for your understandng.

Magicmexican
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Ok

But i cant even initiate my withdrawal at the moment, so its not even pending. When i fill in the btc address, amount to withdraw&password and click 'withdraw' - nothing happens, page just reloads.
2227  Economy / Gambling / Re: Need sportbooks site with bets on badminton on: April 21, 2015, 07:19:49 PM


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.msg8109572#msg8109572
2228  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 20, 2015, 05:03:48 PM
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2229  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 20, 2015, 04:44:31 PM
Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating


Posters open my eyes to a lot of things through their experiences and posts. One of the best things about this thread is when players post their experiences. The more that is out there, the easier it is for everyone to make their own decision. These ratings should not be the sole determinant when choosing a book.

Posters can ask books questions here. If a book doesn't answer, a link will be sent by PM to make sure they are aware of questions or accusations. The idea is to get as much information on all books in one thread. Very few, if any, can read the dedicated thread of each book.


I see, are you doing this alone? Because basically I do see some problem in nitrogensports thread or their chat that they are slow in processing a huge withdrawal. If you are doing this alone, you cant possibly keep track of all the negativity in the sportsbook isnt it?


I run all my opinions behind the scenes with others at peepsplace to see what they think after they take a test drive. The people that I run it by have extensive gambling backgrounds. Some have dealt with cash book complaints in the past. I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

Nitrogen is a huge operation for a bitcoin book. They are located in Costa Rica with a marketing department in Canada. Because their player base is so big, they are going to have complaints. If complaints were tracked by percentage of players at Nitrogen, it's very low compared to other books. Small books shouldn't have as many complaints because their player base is much smaller.

It's safe to say that Nitrogen knows what they are doing and take all complaints seriously. If anyone has a problem, submit a support ticket and they will take care of it. They are also very open and transparent with me. I'm on Skype with 3 different people at Nitrogen. If someone wants me to look into something, just give me your permission to see your account details and Nitrogen will tell me exactly what happened.


shulio - "Because basically I do see some problem in nitrogensports thread or their chat that they are slow in processing a huge withdrawal."


My last 4 withdrawals at Nitrogen took:

30 minutes
2.5 hours
a few minutes
5.0 hours

This is a problem.  

Peeps responses to Shulio's questions addresses none of this.
Have you made any recent withdrawals? I made one yesterday that took less than 2 minutes.
2230  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 20, 2015, 04:38:36 PM
xbet.io (Peeps NR - Not Rated)


"Website is offline"
Will give them a few days before deleting.
2231  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 20, 2015, 04:37:45 PM
Coin178.com - This is one of the only websites on Peeps' NR (Not Rated) list which looks like a sportsbook.


I sent them an email, and Skyped them. They responded to the Skype and I asked "Does anyone there speak English" and there's been no response.
Likewise no response to the email I sent (in English).

They have some English writing on the website but so far no way to communicate with them.

Anyone using them?

They have live chat. I'll deposit, play some and then make a withdrawal.
2232  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 18, 2015, 11:23:54 AM
Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating


Posters open my eyes to a lot of things through their experiences and posts. One of the best things about this thread is when players post their experiences. The more that is out there, the easier it is for everyone to make their own decision. These ratings should not be the sole determinant when choosing a book.

Posters can ask books questions here. If a book doesn't answer, a link will be sent by PM to make sure they are aware of questions or accusations. The idea is to get as much information on all books in one thread. Very few, if any, can read the dedicated thread of each book.


I see, are you doing this alone? Because basically I do see some problem in nitrogensports thread or their chat that they are slow in processing a huge withdrawal. If you are doing this alone, you cant possibly keep track of all the negativity in the sportsbook isnt it?


I run all my opinions behind the scenes with others at peepsplace to see what they think after they take a test drive. The people that I run it by have extensive gambling backgrounds. Some have dealt with cash book complaints in the past. I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

Nitrogen is a huge operation for a bitcoin book. They are located in Costa Rica with a marketing department in Canada. Because their player base is so big, they are going to have complaints. If complaints were tracked by percentage of players at Nitrogen, it's very low compared to other books. Small books shouldn't have as many complaints because their player base is much smaller.

It's safe to say that Nitrogen knows what they are doing and take all complaints seriously. If anyone has a problem, submit a support ticket and they will take care of it. They are also very open and transparent with me. I'm on Skype with 3 different people at Nitrogen. If someone wants me to look into something, just give me your permission to see your account details and Nitrogen will tell me exactly what happened.










2233  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 18, 2015, 12:59:17 AM
Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating


Posters open my eyes to a lot of things through their experiences and posts. One of the best things about this thread is when players post their experiences. The more that is out there, the easier it is for everyone to make their own decision. These ratings should not be the sole determinant when choosing a book.

Posters can ask books questions here. If a book doesn't answer, a link will be sent by PM to make sure they are aware of questions or accusations. The idea is to get as much information on all books in one thread. Very few, if any, can read the dedicated thread of each book.

2234  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
2235  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2015, 07:59:03 PM
Thanks jeremypwr, it will be added. Betcoin is another book that I like a lot.
2236  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2015, 07:01:55 PM
Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



2237  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2015, 02:55:14 PM
Reminder- Books must keep their discussion to their own book. There is no criticizing of another book. This is done to keep away from a book vs. book war. Players can talk about anything.
2238  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C+(2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)
BTCBook D (2014)

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014).............accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betkurus.com
bitsportsbook.org
Coin178.com
Flutterclub.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
2239  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2015, 02:39:39 PM
BetBTC - Your interface looks great. The negative is that you need more liquidity. Other exchanges offer more markets. Another thing is that there isn't much feedback at bitcointalk concerning BetBTC.

We just hit 10k bets and our website is much more active since we implemented the API.

You should take a look soon Roll Eyes

Will do and keep us updated on anything new. Longevity still keeps BetBTC out of the C's. It's best to take a cautious approach with ratings.

edit- The same goes for all books. Feel free to post on anything new.
2240  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.
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