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2241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if you generated a Bitcoin address which had 100btc in it. on: November 05, 2013, 12:18:23 PM
- Every human has 10 000 addresses with balance on it. This makes with 10billionen people 100 trillion targets or 10^14

This is why you want to focus your search on an address you select as your target.

If Bitcoins were evenly distributed over 100 trillion addresses, there would be 0.00,000,021 (21 Satoshi) in every address. Running the generator randomly would certainly be a waste of time.
2242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if you generated a Bitcoin address which had 100btc in it. on: November 05, 2013, 12:07:36 PM
But not secure enough? Then just transfer you wealth from one to another address every few minutes.

Moving your wealth will not have an effect, in your example you are just as likely to transfer your money into an address controlled by someone else as someone else gaining control of your address.

The real solution to collisions (not that it is a real problem anyway) is to spread your wealth over as many Bitcoin addresses as possible. If it takes a trillion x trillion years to have a 50% chance of getting the correct key to an address with 50,000 Bitcoins in it, the attacker might not bother if the 50,000 Bitcoins were stored in 50,000 addresses of 1 Bitcoin denomination. This will mean the attacker will have to expend 50 x trillion x trillion years to get all those juicy Bitcoins.

- you want to find a private key to any address, not to one, to get a collusion
- checking balance cost you time,too

The checking of balances will cost time, and you might expend a trillion years to only find 0.004 Bitcoin. The best thing to do is choose a valuable target and focus every key attempt on that address.

If we now focus on the FBI address, the gain for all that hashing might be worth it (for an attacker capable of turning the entire energy of a star into pure computation.)

This way we do not have to check the balance every time and we can eek out more efficient computing.

2243  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if you generated a Bitcoin address which had 100btc in it. on: November 05, 2013, 08:56:39 AM
Also do not forget that even if you find a valid address, chances are much more than 99.99 % certain it is a wallet with no coins (generated by another vanitygen).

You are always finding valid addresses with VanityGen, however if you set VanityGen to find a solution for a full length address you would obviously make sure that address you are bruteforcing held Bitcoins.

Its logical to brute force against the largest address because its illogical to search for any other address due to time and energy requirements.

2244  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 05, 2013, 08:51:42 AM
What happens if you send the shares after the 6th? or is that not allowed? I would love to do a last minute buy in on bitfunder before it goes down.

My question is are you not allowed to send shares to AMC-TENDER after the 6th of november?

This rule was made in place before the Bitfunder events.

We are waiting on Ken to give us an update, hopefully he will implement direct shares. This will allow other people to set up pass throughs on cyrptostocks and havelock.
2245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if you generated a Bitcoin address which had 100btc in it. on: November 05, 2013, 06:25:08 AM
After reading this topic, I am going to generate 1million address a day... Smiley

lol, I was thinking about making software to to do this. Generate address and see if one address has any balance

This has already been done.  Read this thread:  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=107172.0

You can download the program and start searching.

You will never find one but if attempting impossible things is something you like to do, have at it.

Incorrect!

It is certainly possible to run that program and guess a correct key to gain Bitcoins.

Its infeasible sure, the likelihood of this working approaches the impossible but never ever touches it.

Impossible is defined as never able to be done under any circumstance.

Just because the key space is large and searching it may take a trillion trillion years does not make the task impossible.
2246  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if you generated a Bitcoin address which had 100btc in it. on: November 05, 2013, 02:18:02 AM
wow thats alot.

NOTE: My math may be wrong!

Well if my computer can check 200,000,000/Sec then thats 17 trillion addresses per day.

Lets see how close I can get to guessing a private key.

addresses per sec * seconds * minutes * hours * days in the year * age of Earth * some other number to get us close to guessing all possible combinations.

200000000*60*60*24*365*4500000000*10000000000000000000000 = 2.8 x 10^47 (close to how many possible combinations would have to be checked (I think))

So my computer would have to run constantly for the age of the Earth times 10 thousand billion billion (note that about 3 times is already older than the known universe)

So my computer would be running past the heat death of this universe and probably still would have not guessed a key with a balance.
2247  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 05, 2013, 02:07:50 AM
Any updates on VMC's hardware?

I don't own any stock in AM, but through my group buy, we spent more than $10,000 on two Hash-Fast-One units.

Have there been any updates? Or is everything under NDA.  Roll Eyes

ROI looks miserable..

I might be wrong, but I think the first units will be ready end of November. Do you remember your estimate date?
2248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if you generated a Bitcoin address which had 100btc in it. on: November 05, 2013, 01:41:57 AM
After reading this topic, I am going to generate 1million address a day... Smiley

lol, I was thinking about making software to to do this. Generate address and see if one address has any balance

I think you can use VanityGen to do this.

I know that VanityGen can generate 200,000,000 addresses a second on my computer, but it would be slower if you had to compare with your local blockchain for a balance every time. Also my computer is slow.
2249  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 05, 2013, 01:06:52 AM
Well if Ken goes the way of Direct shares, it leaves one of us free to create a pass through on HaveLock. (Instead of Ken having to keep micromanaging the shares)
2250  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 04, 2013, 05:12:52 PM
I can appreciate that.

My only counter would be that AsicMiner has not had any real problems dealing direct.
It may even improve liquidity as people deal p2p on the forum who are currently spooked by the exchange

And no things are not working fine... take a moment to peruse the forum before posting your "omg noz!" reply

Dealing direct is a possible solution and I understand that WeExchange is having withdrawal issues, however until Ken can run direct shares or whatever plans he has I prefer my shares to be unlocked and free to move them into Bitcoin when I see fit.
2251  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 04, 2013, 04:58:41 PM
You can save yourself from looking so foolish by educating yourself on the issues first.
Hell you dont even need to read the funder thread. I kindly provided you the two largest problems.
The first one mentioned was account access.

Look, as long as its possible to sell shares I want that option, I don't care if WeExchange is having issues. The last thing I want is a ton of shares I can't trade.
2252  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 04, 2013, 04:51:51 PM
One of the security features implemented at bitfunder is the public asset list
This list enables issuers to move to "direct shares" in the event the exchange begins having difficulties / is compromised

With the recent bitfunder issues (account access problems, cant withdraw from weex, etc)
Now may be a good time to freeze the asset (not like we will lose any liquidity lol) and deal direct until colored coins come
Havelock might be a quick and dirty fix.

Please do not send dividends into bitfunder while weex withdrawl is broken

If you want your shares frozen you can send them to Ken, he has said this many times.

I would prefer my shares not to be frozen.
2253  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 04, 2013, 04:32:11 PM
DAMMIT DRAWINGTHESUN!!! Will you never learn?!

Soz Sad
2254  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 04, 2013, 05:38:17 AM
If you hold over 100,000 shares the divs are just about enough for an entry level McDonalds burger.

However I just worked out my magic number, if the dividends ever go to 2000 satoshi per share, ActiveMining would double my yearly income (I am a student so my yearly income is small)

However that would make me very happy. Come on 2000 satoshi divs per week!
2255  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 03, 2013, 09:53:07 PM
...So a month without divs might lead to a way higher div later. Of course it had to be calculated through thoroughly if it would work this way.

We're talking ActM divs here.
A month without your divs might pay for a McD dinner & even super-size it, or buy a nice clean pair of pants, but i'm afraid that's about it Sad

If you hold over 100,000 shares the divs are just about enough for an entry level McDonalds burger.
2256  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 03, 2013, 05:12:38 PM
Ken, can you confirm that https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DJpsvnM7xTnQbWEhLYyCyfxQyxwupEzCa is the correct and only ActiveMining address?

My guess is yes, the Bitcoin income is the same as last week meaning it includes the added hashpower, if this address had no new hashing power it would be a lot lower.

In short, the added hashpower has gained us a week.
2257  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 03:57:00 AM
As far as i know, either the SEC asked them to fold up their circus tents like they claimed they did, or the exchanges are lying through their teeth.  I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.

None of the exchanges specifically said anything about SEC contacting them so we cant just assume they were given an ultimatum. It is more likely in my eyes they finally came to see the legal risks they were undertaking and didn't want to spend the time/resources to make their operations legal/safe from SEC. (its easier to just ignore them and keep collecting them bitcoins from the non-americans)

The SEC is our friend here, they JUST passed crowdfunding laws and still I doubt we are on their radar.

We need to stop acting like this is a big deal and just carry on with business
We're probably not yet on their radar, but I don't see the SEC as being our friends here. Unless they come up with some new, more relaxed regulations then they are going to suffocate the Bitcoin securities market because of a high cost of compliance.

Yes, we are on there radar, as they have talked to Ukto about us last month.  I sent Ukto our Belize documents so he could send them to the SEC.

At least we can confirm the SEC has had some contact with Bitfunder, even if it was just about ActiveMining.
2258  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 02:03:51 AM
no, they'll just seize the servers.........

And have a massive law suit on their hands? Doubt it. It is not worth their time to go after a company that is operating legally in another country.

Isn't that what they did with Mega?
2259  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com on: November 02, 2013, 01:05:56 AM
Crumbs, if this turns out to be legit and ActiveMining becomes legit by going through whatever legal securities process HackLock have, what would you do? I know its unlikely those two things happen but if they did I wonder how you would respond...
2260  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 02, 2013, 12:48:23 AM
When the worlds first fully US licenced exchange does appear and starts listing companies, I strongly suggest that ActiveMining file its paperwork with the SEC and attempt to gain listing on such an exchange. The legal part will bring a huge amount of liquidity to the market.

However I see no legal exchange on the horizon, and this Havelock news does not seem legit at all.
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