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2261  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-09] Microsoft Allegedly Stops Accepting Bitcoin Once Again on: July 09, 2018, 08:58:51 PM
Coinbase has been the biggest factor in merchant contraction. Switching to making merchants control their own private keys was always going to make most of them abandon the idea.

Bitpay is the only alternative with banking integrated and they're doing their absolute best to deter custom too.

Slightly strange that the only two payment processors that count appear to want to kill off BTC spending. I guess that still makes it political but it's the payment processor's politics, not the merchants. I'd very much like to know what their agendas are.

I think Bitpay is still pathetically trying to leverage their position to push protocol development in a direction that suits them. They should have gotten the message a year ago, but I'm guessing some of their shareholders have that agenda.

I think Coinbase has put payment processing on the back burner if it's not bowing out of the sector entirely. They obviously want to shift resources elsewhere and put the brunt of integration on merchants. I think their exchange and custody products are their priorities now, probably rightly so.
2262  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-07] Bitcoin Mining Giant Bitmain Worth $12 Billion After Latest Funding on: July 08, 2018, 05:44:00 PM
This article left out the most interesting piece of all. Look at the top investors:

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According to local news sources in China, Sequoia Capital, Coatue, and EDBI were among the leading firms in the Series B funding.

EDBI is backed/controlled by the Singaporean government. The chairman of EDBI's board is also chairman of Singapore's state Economic Development Board, a government agency. The Economic Development Board is tasked with "planning and executing strategies to sustain Singapore as a leading global hub for business and investment." EDBI is known as one of the venture capital arms of the Singapore Government.

Very interesting to see a nation-state investing in a Bitcoin mining company! Bitcoin bears, watch out...
2263  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018/07/05]BIS Chief to Crypto Coders: 'Stop Trying to Create Money' on: July 06, 2018, 10:33:13 PM
At the end of the day, it comes back to what Satoshi said years ago:
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But if there were nothing in the world with intrinsic value that could be used as money, only scarce but no intrinsic value, I think people would still take up something.

And he was right. For something to be money, it doesn't need to be useful or have an actual purpose. It just needs to be scarce and transferable. Markets have never supported this idea that money must be "backed." That's easily disproven propaganda.

To some extent I agree that this shitty 'money' creation needs to stop, because it takes away liquidity from the coins with an actual purpose. How shitty is this industry? Plenty of shitty.

But that's the beauty (and hassle) of replacing central authorities: anyone can create their own money/token and there's no one to stop them. It just takes time (and fear/greed) for the market to figure out what's really valuable.

It reminds me of the dot-com boom. When money is being thrown around left and right, you've got to expect that greed.
2264  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-06] Israel Bitcoin Exchange Agrees to Share Customer Info with Tax Auth on: July 06, 2018, 09:06:13 PM
Wise people used to say that the weakest point of BTC are exchanges. You can't do without them, at least in the early stage, because you have to redistribute coins somehow, but using them not only carries a risk of losing your coins permanently, but also of losing your privacy, wealth and possibly freedom.
If only people stopped using centralized exchanges....

People in the states have been getting arrested for years for trading P2P via Localbitcoins without MSB licenses or implementing KYC.

And decentralized exchanges simply can't have fiat money exchange -- it's impossible. Maybe stablecoins, but those just outsource third party trust to a different party. And that third party will be subject to all the compliance and banking woes that plague current exchanges (see Tether).

Centralized exchanges aren't going anywhere.
2265  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018/07/03]Japan’s Internet Giant GMO Launches New Upgraded 7nm Bitcoin Miner on: July 05, 2018, 10:52:50 PM
Is there a reason for bitcoin dot com articles to be here at all?

All you're doing is promoting traffic to Roger Ver's site -- the same individual that is actively trying to usurp Bitcoin.

Why are you helping him?

No major news site except Bitcoin.com covered the retail launch of the B3 miner, so it appears to be the only legitimate source. Roger's a dick, but I don't see the big deal.

In all honesty, the news section of Bitcoin.com seems no worse than Coindesk, and it's better than all the click-bait sites (Cryptocoins News and CoinTelegraph come to mind).
2266  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cryptocurrency-related tax frauds on: July 04, 2018, 09:41:47 PM
It depends on your jurisdiction, your filing status, the amounts in question and other details. You might have more success asking on the Legal board. That's where most tax discussion takes place.

In most jurisdictions, you'll owe capital gains taxes on any trading/investment profits. For example: If you buy 1BTC at $1,000 and sell at $10,000 that's $9,000 in capital gains. That gets multiplied by your capital gains tax rate to determine your tax liability.
2267  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018/07/03]Japan’s Internet Giant GMO Launches New Upgraded 7nm Bitcoin Miner on: July 04, 2018, 09:27:09 PM
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The price tag for each GMO miner B2 unit, launched on June 6, was $1,999.

The B3 model will be sold at the same price as the B2 model.

So, that's a 37.5% increase in hashing power -- 33TH/s for $1,999 -- but power consumption has also increased to 103W per TH/s.

Let's see how it compares to Bitmain.

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By comparison, the current market leader – Bitmain's Antminer S9 – offers 14TH/s at a power consumption of around 1,300W.
[...] That's compared with $837 for the Antminer S9.

Looks like Bitmain still edges out GMO in terms of both output and power consumption. But it's close -- less than a $1 per TH/s and ~ 10W per TH/s. Seems like good progress in the battle to chip away at Bitmain's market share.
2268  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-03] Economist: Bitcoin Futures Killed the 2017 Bull Run on: July 04, 2018, 06:20:24 PM
This doesn't apply to cash-settled futures markets. Cash-settled = real arbitrage is impossible. You can set up hedge trades to profit from the price gap between markets, but there's no way to withdraw BTC from the futures side. So, there's no additional supply being dumped on the spot markets.

If contracts require delivery in BTC (supposedly this is how the ICE contracts will work), then I could see them affecting spot markets because it will be a legitimate avenue for investors/traders to buy actual bitcoins. That means real demand meeting real supply, and real arbitrage.

It doesn’t really matter whether the contract is cash settled or settled by delivery, as long as (this is a crucial assumption) you are able to execute a transaction in the spot market for the settlement price, at the settlement time. That is the reason why cash settled contracts exist. Think about it - it doesn’t matter whether I get 5 bitcoins delivered to me in the futures market, or X $, with which I can buy 5 bitcoins. The arbitrage trades still hold good.

You're making a big assumption with that condition (highlighted in bold). Sure, you could do that, if you can afford to trade CME contracts, and if you want a super inefficient way to accumulate bitcoins -- which still doesn't solve the spot market counterparty risk problem. The primary motive to trade regulated cash-settled futures is lack of counterparty exposure to unregulated spot exchanges. But that fundamentally means you're trying to profit from spot market moves (in cash), not move the spot market. CME traders aren't turning around and wiring their profits to Bitfinex, etc. That would be an outlandish assumption.
2269  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-03] Economist: Bitcoin Futures Killed the 2017 Bull Run on: July 03, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
If people (and let's remember: everyone has access to the BTC market) buy Bitcoin up, and these official financial system futures markets got the market sentiment wrong, what are CME or CBOE gonna do, tell everyone they have to give the Bitcoin back to make it right again? Cheesy

This also ignores the most crucial fact from the BTC futures contracts that exist on exchanges in the official markets: no BTC ever changes hands, they're not settling in BTC or directly participating in the Bitcoin market in any way (or at least not publicly). That means they must follow the real markets, they cannot lead the BTC market.

I am not sure that is the case. Even if no BTC changes hands in the futures markets, they can lead the BTC markets. If I open a big short position in the futures market and drive the price down, the BTC spot market will follow. Arbitrageurs would see the price difference and try to bridge the gap, driving down the price of Bitcoin in the spot market.

This doesn't apply to cash-settled futures markets. Cash-settled = real arbitrage is impossible. You can set up hedge trades to profit from the price gap between markets, but there's no way to withdraw BTC from the futures side. So, there's no additional supply being dumped on the spot markets.

If contracts require delivery in BTC (supposedly this is how the ICE contracts will work), then I could see them affecting spot markets because it will be a legitimate avenue for investors/traders to buy actual bitcoins. That means real demand meeting real supply, and real arbitrage.
2270  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is the attack "51%" legal? on: July 03, 2018, 09:59:27 PM
If it's decentralized, there can be no enforceable terms. So, the only thing we have is the code itself. I don't see how the DAO hack could be illegal on that basis according to most common law systems.

Ethereum has a big single point of failure called Vitalik Buterin. It's also not even decentralized. The mining is even worse than Bitcoin, and the nodes is definitely WORSE than Bitcoin at such insane level of growth rate.

I recognize that Vitalik and the Ethereum Foundation have significant influence over consensus forks, but that doesn't equate to a "single point of failure." I also recognize that ETH pool mining is highly centralized, but given the state of Bitmain and its proxies, I'm not sure I can agree regarding mining centralization in Bitcoin.

In any case, the Ethereum protocol is properly described as decentralized. It's just a description of how validation works in the protocol. I have no interest in engaging in a pissing contest between BTC and ETH with regard to "degree of centralization." I don't care about that.

There was never an alignment to fork. The fact that Ethereum Classic was created and still exists shows that it was a failed hardfork. A successful fork doesn't generate an altcoin, if there is consensus the legacy chain dies.

As a starting point, we should assume that consensus never exists beyond the protocol one has opted into (by running a node).

Actual consensus to incompatibly fork is logically impossible; that requires 100% of users to not only upgrade, but to agree absent coercion. That's why I oppose any miner-backed hard fork "upgrades" in Bitcoin: if backed by hashpower, they are coercive and therefore unethical.

As such, I'm not of the belief that a "successful" hard fork requires 100% of users to upgrade. There's nothing wrong with communities splitting, and that's exactly what should happen sometimes. The fact that some level of hash power and user base remained on the Classic chain casts doubt on your idea that Vitalik Buterin is the ultimate arbiter as well.

Vitalik and friends lost a lot of money and they recovered it via hardfork. Ethereum is a joke. No "code is law", not a safe store of value, doesn't even scale to be an usable token for common payments. I still don't see why ETH is worth what it is other than it's ability to generate ICO's and Vitalik having big connections like Putin, certain banking groups etc, to keep it in the news.

Okay. I guess Ethereum really gets your goat, huh? Cheesy

Anyway, I don't have a dog in this race. I have no reason to have strong opinions or argue about this crap. If Ethereum only exists as an example of what not to do with Bitcoin, then perhaps it even provides some value to Bitcoin development...
2271  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is the attack "51%" legal? on: July 02, 2018, 08:56:00 PM
Governments most likely don't care as long as you aren't dealing with fiat.

For instance, was the "DAO hack" legal? It was just the code itself, exploited, but if "code is law" applies then it was not a crime from a strict crypto perspective.

If it's decentralized, there can be no enforceable terms. So, the only thing we have is the code itself. I don't see how the DAO hack could be illegal on that basis according to most common law systems.

What's clear is these funds were bailed out and for me when that happened the whole dream of "smart contracts" collapsed, it's really nonsense. You either get hardforks to recover money (so code is not law) or you get in legal trouble because of governments making laws about outcome of smart contracts.

I'm on your side regarding the ethics of bailouts. However, I think it's really interesting that such bailouts require a hard fork and therefore a high level of community support. If such a hard fork succeeds, that suggests to me: 1) incentives were aligned to fork, 2) users were coerced by miners backing the fork, or 3) some combination. The ethics of any hard fork (aside from one where 100% of users are incentivized to fork, such as to address an existential protocol failure) are complex. Any given user may disagree, but they may feel forced economically to follow the herd.
2272  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 27% of England’s Male Millennials Say Bitcoin Better Investment Than Property on: July 01, 2018, 07:54:02 PM
Well, the ROI is much faster. That's for sure. And we can see that wages, benefits, pensions and social services are in decline as inflation eats our savings. So making capital work for us is increasingly important.

"27% of Male Millennials" -- fairly limited group. Good; still lots of room to grow. When "27% of retirees" agree, I'll probably be selling. Tongue

However, the survey shows that the new generation is more comfortable with the crypto investment. The only issue is that they don't have much investable funds in hand.

However, once this mass will start working and earning money, we will be able to see a lot of funds coming into the crypto economy. That change is not visible now, but it will be more evident within next 3-5 years once this new generation people will join their workplace. A change is definitely coming, slowly but surely.

Millennials go back as far as the early 80s -- we're all part of the workplace already. The survey = 21 to 35-year-olds.
2273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitPico throwing down against Roger Ver on: June 30, 2018, 03:21:13 PM
Sorry but from a technical standpoint ,
if the 32MB is a security problem, but can only be exploited if 32 mb blocks are created,
A hard fork dropping BCH back down to 8MB limit would circumvent the problem.

Actually, only a soft fork is required, since lowering the block size limit doesn't remove or relax consensus rules. All that would be required is 51% hash power support, and then users would follow the forked chain by default.

The problem is more philosophical: big blocks = BCH's raison d'être. If it turns out big blocks are unsafe, and block size must be lowered to just 2x that of Bitcoin, why does it even exist? What's the point?

It might be one of Roger Ver's sock puppets disguised as a Core supporter, deceiving everyone that it is "attacking" the Bitcoin Cash network only fail on purpose.

The end of this drama will be, Roger Ver "wins" and then announces that Bitcoin Cash is resilient to network attacks. Hahaha.

BitPico also backed Segwit2x and tried to carry it out even after everyone else had abandoned it. I wouldn't assume anything about their motives here.

This could certainly be a ploy to execute a "failed" attack against BCH. If such a highly publicized "attack" were to fail, BCH might come out looking good, yeah?
2274  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: helpful tools to analyze BTC-TX on: June 29, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Hello,

are there any helpful tools to analyze BTC-TX over more than one wallet ?
blockchain.info is not unseful for the purpuse.

Any idea ?

lotstep

Do you mean to link addresses/wallets together? Taint analysis?

Blockchain.info used to have a taint analysis tool, but it seems to have been removed. It wasn't very easy to use anyway.

Walletexplorer.com groups addresses together into wallets based on public transaction history, allowing some level of blockchain analysis. It seems to support bech32 addresses as well. According to the blurb at the bottom, the site developer works at Chainalysis now...
2275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitPico throwing down against Roger Ver on: June 29, 2018, 08:51:44 PM
Here is why I think BCH is Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vufeM92bfJw

I gave clear and consise reasons why I think that is the case.  Feel free to refute them with logic and evidence.

Whether or not "BCH is Bitcoin" isn't the issue here. This isn't a philosophical argument about bigger blocks.

BitPico is claiming the network is extremely easy to attack, and is supposedly mounting such an attack to destroy public trust in the coin. I'm not convinced their attack model is viable, and this feels like a publicity stunt. But I'm watching to see what they produce.
2276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitPico throwing down against Roger Ver on: June 28, 2018, 11:55:20 PM
That's cute, but it's probably not going to work. The article's author is confused about how a 51% attack works. What BitPico seems to be planning is a "stress test" of extremely large transactions. They believe the following will result:

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the network will start forking into multiple chains as the backlog in this manner impacts subsets of the network. It’s a global blockchain stall that would eventually reorganize or recursively reorganize until time to infinite.

They plan to release a hard fork and they believe this will cause a multi-chain fork. In reality, the 5000 "attack nodes" are irrelevant in a hard fork because legacy nodes won't communicate with them.

And something tells me Bitmain won't let their baby be attacked so easily. If the majority of Bcash's hash rate is controlled by Bitmain or its proxies (and I believe that's true), they may be able to sidestep the attack very easily by censoring the attack transactions. The attack transactions will apparently be extremely large (their example is an average transaction size of 0.6 MB). BitPico assumes that only rational mining incentive dictates which transactions are mined:

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So no there is no motivation to mine small transactions over large transactions as it comes down to maximum profit; something complex blocks guarantee.

That's pretty absurd when a well-capitalized company like Bitmain is extremely invested in Bcash's success. I would also be very curious to see what funds BitPico has set aside to pay transaction fees. Attacks like this are not free, and their model depends on driving transaction fees up.
2277  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Cashing out bitcoin income paid under the table on: June 28, 2018, 09:48:59 PM
I'd like to start this off by saying I am really young and have never had to deal with taxes, I'm also new to Bitcoin.

So lets say I get paid under the table (off the books) in Bitcoin, could I simply claim that the Bitcoin was mined by me, pay capital gain tax (or equivalent of that in my country) for selling the Bitcoin, and be safe? There's no way to prove I mined the Bitcoin myself (especially if I claim I do not have access to the wallet anymore), surely I can't get in trouble for that?

What country?

It sounds like you're not planning to report the mining income as a business. As such, I'm not sure I understand the need for this.

If the coins were mined by you, that's still considered income. You're just calling it mining (hobby?) income instead of wage income, but there are still generally taxes due on both. So you have two separate tax liability issues: 1) the income and 2) capital gains.

Depending on your jurisdiction and the amounts involved, there may be no tax liability if the coins were gifted to you. Then you might just have capital gains taxes due when you sell.
2278  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are you running a Bitcoin node? You SHOULD be on: June 27, 2018, 10:59:06 PM
So it seems that the disincentive is the time spent in downloading the blockchain, and having to store it.

You don't need to run an archival node in order to have full node security:

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Archival Nodes
A subset of full nodes also accept incoming connections and upload old blocks to other peers on the network. This happens if the software is run with -listen=1 as is default. Contrary to some popular misconceptions, being an archival node is not necessary to being a full node. If a user's bandwidth is constrained then they can use -listen=0, if their disk space is constrained they can use pruning, all the while still being a fully-validating node that enforces bitcoin's consensus rules and contributing to bitcoin's overall security.

With features like blocksonly mode and pruning, bandwidth and disk space limitations aren't as problematic now. So bootstrap time is indeed one of the biggest disincentives, but even that has improved by leaps and bounds over the last few years.
2279  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-6-24]Cardano Co-Founder: Wall Street Will Bring ‘Tens of Trillions of. . . on: June 27, 2018, 09:13:49 PM
"40 trillion USD crypto market is possible"What a joke...
It`s possible only if 1 billion people from the rich countries start using cryptocurrencies every day to buy food and pay the bills.I don`t see this coming in the next 100 years.Maybe in the next century, our children will use crypto everyday.

Nope, not really. It's true that for an asset to retain value, there must exist transaction liquidity and volume -- people need to use it. But beyond some basic threshold of network liquidity (which is surely less than 1 billion people), that's a tertiary concern.

The primary factors are supply and demand -- there are two sides to that equation. We don't need 1 billion people demanding cryptocurrency for basic spending; we just need demand that overtakes supply. And demand is measured in $$, not people. If BTC owners stop selling, price will rise. If BTC becomes increasingly accepted by the mainstream as a store-of-value asset, institutional demand may skyrocket as BTC owners restrict their coins from market. You might be surprised at how fast price can rise under these conditions.
2280  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-06-25] Controversial Tether Releases $250 Millions in USDT on: June 26, 2018, 10:46:16 PM
It's not that controversial as it passed an audit

Sadly not.  The report was published by a law-firm, but that's not the same thing as an audit.  An audit would give a full history of how much money there was at any given time over a set period.  All the notarised documents show is where the money was on June 1st.

For example, someone who was in debt for most of the year might still be able to convince you they don't have an issue if they can show you a bank statement of the one day in the year when they had some money spare.  It doesn't rule out the possibility of having some serious financial difficulties in future if the money is invested poorly.

Friedman LLP did a similar "balance check" last year before their relationship with Tether was dissolved. Since no real audit is taking place, one major problem with these statements is that the firms have no way to verify outstanding claims or liabilities on the deposited money. They can only verify that assets and liabilities roughly matched at one time, based on the information Tether provides them. That should give discerning people little comfort.

Anyway, I'm not too concerned. This whole spectacle is no different than any exchange being accused of insolvency. Other exchanges just don't announce publicly when bank wires are received...
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