Calling him dangerously insane because he argues for synthetic beef isn't a great starter. Producing beef is incredibly wasteful, not to mention you have to butcher an animal.
I'm a proud carnivore, yet I would gladly switch to synthetic meat when it is similar in taste and cost. There's simply no reason not to. After what I have read on the subject so far, it seams that synthetic meat lacks a lot of the nutrients that natural meat has. Cows and what not, eat natural food and get all the nutrients in that food, synthetic food is just cells grown in a dish (or similar) with only the basics for cell survival. I wish it would be as good as real meat, it would help stop the maltreatment of animals that takes place in many countries. Until then I will just have to try to chose meat from good farms. Ok, i start straight away and hope i don't lose track. I'm a Vegetarian. Don't judge it yet. Why? I (thought) i always liked meat. I had pretty much of it, in it's more ugly and more delicious forms. But then, my wife made a hypnosis cert. When she was learning it, we did some practice sessions, which you need to get the certification. One of these sessions ran under the topic "I'd like to be more proud of my values, to act more faithfully towards them". Spoiler: Turned out that the first animal i killed as consciously, as a kid, a toad, raised an unknown level of shame and guilt in me. I remembered that months after the actual hypnosis session but i knew it was related. After the session i couldn't eat meat any more. I could well taste and chew it, but i couldn't swallow it. I had to spit out. I also saw pictures of the living animals in my mind when i tried to. Fine. In the end i didn't care. I am also forgetful, as most of WO might know, so i always tend to forget that i am a Veggie, bite into a sausage, but then i realize  So i had plenty of occasions to discover the dynamics behind my new unwanted "lifestyle". But i also forget about many problems i have, and this one was just in line with others i encounter over time. This way my mind brought up that event from my childhood, when i killed that fat toad, by putting it in a jar and throwing stones at it, so it bleeded to death by the cuts. I didn't think about the outcome, but when the obvious happened, it struck me. There was a second kid, he was amused. I wasn't. This event made me really take care to not ever hurt or kill an animal. Decades later, i thought it is an idea to raise chicken and slaughter them. Said and done. But i the meat tasted horrible, while everyone else said it was tasting really good. So as long as the animal is hidden by the product (in form of ready cut meat and meat products), i had no problem eating and enjoying meat. I also don't care if everybody else enjoys meat. I don't see the "lambie killer" ( sorry Lambie Slayer) in a person that likes to eat meat or slaughters animals. When i go fishing, one of my kids has to kill the fish, but i still prepare (and sometimes) cook the filets without a bad feeling. As a side effect, i learned to honor animals as the source of one of our most important foods. Which takes me to the point, after writing 15-20 minutes on it, that animals and their meat should be treated and eaten respectful. I even would recommend everybody to slaughter an animal to finally eat its meat, before judging over vegetarians. I never judged them. Sure, we know there's many of them that are veggies to put themselves unconsciously above ordinary meat-eating people (lambie killers and all), but it is exactly the motivation that is to be judged, not the lifestyle as such. EDIT: Producing and eating "artificial meat" would be just the same as tofu. Even vegetarians should have not much of a problem to eat it. What bugs me the most about it is that it's not a 100% substitute (nutritional aspects, mainly) and it's also fucking disrespectful to nature (which isn't exactly unusual in most of our cultures). |
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Heh, i am still holding for the spirit of the squeeze |
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And this is the kind of banker statement that makes me sick.
In my opinion, the "then they will fight us" era is still ahead of us.
This is well behind us, they are just doing everything they can to keep the price down while they secretly accumulate. German banks? I ain't so sure about that. Otherwise, i don't know for sure, so... |
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I sometimes have prophetic dreams.
... common sheeple folk.
to rodeo some billionaire pricks.  *edit(): I also am perverted sometimes and think I am "a God" and like to pretend like I'm knowing when the price will dip again and I buy the dip so I can sell/dump later to buy the next dip. Easy on the coke, it might wreck you faster than you think... @Gyrsur, @Karartma1, thanks guys, for the useful info/links.
@Gyrsur: Yes, using Kraken, and everything goes through Fidor Bank (Munich). When you say 1000 € upper limit, you mean per transaction? Can I transfer, say, 900 € on the 1st of the month, another 900 € on the 10th, and another 900 € on the 20th? Haven't been able to check the link you provided, sorry if this is already mentioned there.
I know for a fact that we Euro-landers will face difficulties in enjoying our newfound wealth... I think the IRS in the USA are better. They are brutal and check everything, but at least they seem to be more knowledgeable and once you pay your dues they don't bother you. Or so I've heard.
I as understand it right if your crypto-related transaction from/to the bank is over 1000 EUR the bank is forced to report it somehow. this are just plans at the moment to go in this direction. but it will come, I am sure. Hmm, strangely i only read about "bitcoin transactions with value over € 1000". Means that wallet providers have to implement an interface to track KYC bitcoin transactions over a value of €1000. I don't see tracking EUR transactions from exchange to bank here. The government wants to restrict the anonymity of crypto payments. It will not succeed in doing this, but will only sell wallet providers and custodians abroad. Legal uncertainty will be the result. The fight against cryptocurrencies is part of the financial repression of this federal government. Only a year ago, the anonymity of gold transactions was reduced to 2,000 euros. With crypto assets, the government is now going even further.
It's more clear in untranslated version, imho. It wouldn't make much sense to capture EUR going from/to wallet providers to banks, but they want to sniff into btc transactions, because they lack the ability to monitor money flows like with fiat. Prove me wrong  It's only my opinion on the contents of the article. I don't welcome monitoring and control of flows (whichever currency) at all. still not convinced about the direction how it should developing (Banks included)? https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fder_boersen_tag%2FBankenverband-fordert-strengere-Regulierung-von-Kryptowaehrungen-article22382819.htmlAnd this is the kind of banker statement that makes me sick. In my opinion, the "then they will fight us" era is still ahead of us. |
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@Gyrsur, @Karartma1, thanks guys, for the useful info/links.
@Gyrsur: Yes, using Kraken, and everything goes through Fidor Bank (Munich). When you say 1000 € upper limit, you mean per transaction? Can I transfer, say, 900 € on the 1st of the month, another 900 € on the 10th, and another 900 € on the 20th? Haven't been able to check the link you provided, sorry if this is already mentioned there.
I know for a fact that we Euro-landers will face difficulties in enjoying our newfound wealth... I think the IRS in the USA are better. They are brutal and check everything, but at least they seem to be more knowledgeable and once you pay your dues they don't bother you. Or so I've heard.
I as understand it right if your crypto-related transaction from/to the bank is over 1000 EUR the bank is forced to report it somehow. this are just plans at the moment to go in this direction. but it will come, I am sure. Hmm, strangely i only read about "bitcoin transactions with value over € 1000". Means that wallet providers have to implement an interface to track KYC bitcoin transactions over a value of €1000. I don't see tracking EUR transactions from exchange to bank here. The government wants to restrict the anonymity of crypto payments. It will not succeed in doing this, but will only sell wallet providers and custodians abroad. Legal uncertainty will be the result. The fight against cryptocurrencies is part of the financial repression of this federal government. Only a year ago, the anonymity of gold transactions was reduced to 2,000 euros. With crypto assets, the government is now going even further.
It's more clear in untranslated version, imho. It wouldn't make much sense to capture EUR going from/to wallet providers to banks, but they want to sniff into btc transactions, because they lack the ability to monitor money flows like with fiat. Prove me wrong It's only my opinion on the contents of the article. I don't welcome monitoring and control of flows (whichever currency) at all. |
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Good morning WOers! I see Warren Buffett's wisdom has worked again nicely while I was sleeping. We've crossed $50k, then pulled back to just under it. It's just a matter of time (hours/days) before we leave $50k behind for good. I believe the recent correction showed that there is good support at lower levels. This is not just a bubble ready to pop, as some falsely claim. This will pave the way for a slow and steady rise to $60k, $100k and beyond. I haven't sold a single sat during the dip (and, sadly, I haven't bought a single sat either). We may need some time to reach the above levels, but we will. My SOMA guess: Q2: attack on $100k, Q3: $100k (stable), Q4: $200~400k (unstable).
Regarding my earlier post/query about Bitcoin-funded Credit Cards, many thanks to those who replied. I checked out 2 companies ( Binance and Crypto.com). They both offer such services and I may consider applying there, just for a test drive. Still, IMHO, the best course of action in this matter, as Richy_T has pointed out, is total transparency, i.e., declaring everything and doing things the legal way. Paying taxes too. That way, no one will bother me and question my financial status change (quitting my job while being able to increase my spending activity 10-fold). It's one thing to become super-wealthy, it's quite another to be able to use your wealth without raising red flags and being labeled a criminal. Got to be careful with such things... Fortunately, my expenses and desires are not too extravagant, so I could stay under the radar, but still, this is an issue that needs to be looked at.BTW, $50k crossed again, and rising.  very important flying under the radar! IMO it means < 1000 EUR transactions BTC to FIAT.  https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.btc-echo.de%2Fso-will-die-bundesregierung-die-krypto-anonymitaet-einschraenken%2FWho is using a german online wallet, anyway? Bitpanda is the only one i can remind, and coinfinity as a broker, but are there more than five services like these based in Germany? Thanks for the info, might address some people. * OutOfMemory stroking his hardware wallet |
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Oh by the way, anyone around here know how to get ahold of Zhou Tong? He's still got like 120btc of mine and I'd like to sell them as quickly as possible before this thing crashes to $0.
bam bam dilla Epic. Bless up! |
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I know we are all hardened holders here... but my soul still hurts a little. That said we needed this drop. I just wonder what the concurrent stock market implosion will do to the corn overall...
I just recognized signs of the "implosion": Identified - The root cause of the issue has been identified and our developers are working to fix it.
Additional information will be provided as soon as possible.
We appreciate your understanding and apologise for the inconvenience.
Sincerely,
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Feb 23, 15:14 UTC
Update - We are continuing to work on a fix for this issue.
Feb 23, 20:09 UTC
5 hours downtime is much in modern times... EDIT: And i thought Binance was shitty  |
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computer says no!
that must be the calculator of proudhorn. BS! It's just a portable CD player with no disc inserted |
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BTC destruction derby, while i was on the road  However, as a 2018 veteran, i smelled the stink of red candles in the morning, sold half my "trading reserve" at around $49k - $50k (IIRD), which will be used for living anyway and already paid off for some weeks now. Bought back at a little under $46k. i had several buys pop off lowest was ~45.5k helps that i actually paid (a very small amount of) attention to price the last couple weeks and tweaked ladders a bit every couple days instead of every few weeks. Attention generally pays off. And i see we're over $48k again... Rinse, repeat. Nothing to see here |
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BTC destruction derby, while i was on the road However, as a 2018 veteran, i smelled the stink of red candles in the morning, sold half my "trading reserve" at around $49k - $50k (IIRD), which will be used for living anyway and already paid off for some weeks now. Bought back at a little under $46k. The correction was clearly needed. I even got a warning shot via twitter and the espresso blog, but i fell asleep yesterday before i was able to sell. #hodlings unaffected |
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has anything happened?
a bat with laser eyes let fell a sack of rice in China?
It doesn't matter if the bat has laser eyes. It matters which color they are. (ask Bob  ) |
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Hello WO. Big dip today, any reason for it ? Are you buying the dip yet ?
El duderino_ : is that Igor on your cap ?
I did buy the dip, but too soon. When it went lower than we currently are again, i had no more fiat to burn. You can't have it all, but i'm satisfied. I was already getting over-excited by recent BTC price rises, a pretty reliable indicator for corrections
As far as we are concerned, it may as well be. The difference between 18 million and 21 million, ... ok fine, it's still 3 million, but that doesn't matter in the long term. Plus, it will take a hundred years anyway.
recently, some WO fellow calculated that the 21m hardcap will be reached way sooner, around 2080 (iirc), while most of all coins (20.95m) should be mined until 2040 or so. |
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R.I.P. The video left me speechless. |
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looks like going down a bit.
buy order set at $54.321.
I don't know, but somehow i don't want it to get filled this time.
Stoner eyes?! No wonder bitcoin is down I can tweak those fir you after work tonight if you like. Yes, thanks in advance. BUT only if it doesn't stress you out. It seems like you do a lot of hatjobs lately |
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EDIT: Is it just me or does my avatar look really like laser eyes or more like laser glasses, i mean John Lennon -stlye?
Looks more like a serious eye infection maybe. Shame the avatars need to be so small. Max couldn't get his fingers off my weed, i fear... |
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Looks like we're headed down for a bit
No problem, probably good to cool down a bit, shake some weak hands out. I wouldn’t mind a bit of sideways, low volatility before we start moving up again. The market is heating up, lately. dips became shallower, times of going sideways got shorter. This is why i considered Feb, by looking at my silly lines i was choosing the 23th. EDIT: Is it just me or does my avatar look really like laser eyes or more like laser glasses, i mean John Lennon -stlye? So much for my lines... Best part was when i stopped work for a coffee break and checked the price. BUT.... I have had switched to EUR and almost got a heart condition Until i realized Too bad i already bought the (higher) dip today... #hodl |
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Looks like we're headed down for a bit
No problem, probably good to cool down a bit, shake some weak hands out. I wouldn’t mind a bit of sideways, low volatility before we start moving up again. The market is heating up, lately. dips became shallower, times of going sideways got shorter. This is why i considered Feb, by looking at my silly lines i was choosing the 23th. EDIT: Is it just me or does my avatar look really like laser eyes or more like laser glasses, i mean John Lennon -stlye? |
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@OutOfMemory like your laser avatar Thanks, homerx10 had so many requests, so i decided to offload him by one and did it myself. Welcome Max Headlaser! As my last buy order got filled, i recognized that i got sufficiently good at evulating the charts and moves. Let me thank my "mentors" of Bitcoin management and trading: JJG, HML, LotV8 and the few i likely already forgot. |
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btw ... we all know it, Bitcoin is dead ... 8% down ... this is the end ... again ... XD
WO's still having fun when staying poor I voted 60K for today. Still possible Feb 23. Missed it last time for a few hours. But this time, this time.... |
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