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2281  Other / Meta / Re: Captcha bypass on: February 23, 2019, 10:25:58 PM
Personally, I think more should be done to make TOR users have to jump through hoops to access the forum, not the other way around.  This is probably outstanding news to those who use alt accounts regularly though.
The administration does not do anything about alt accounts, even those of scammers well over 99% of the time, and does not even put much effort into finding alt accounts of banned users.

Also, it is possible to find alt accounts that are all using TOR, even if they are taking a lot of precautions against detection.
2282  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: (H) Bitcoin (W) long term consistent partner to cash them out on: February 22, 2019, 04:59:46 AM
www.gemini.com
www.coinbase.com
there are many others Smiley
2283  Economy / Reputation / Re: ▄▀▄ REMOVE LAUDA FROM DT ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄ LIST UPDATED 2/5/19 ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄π on: February 21, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
In all fairness; H8bussesNbicycles deleted many of their replies.
^-- THIS

(82 posts by 26 users with 23 merit deleted.)

It is impossible to have a reasoned debate, when one side puts their fingers in their ears and say "blah blah blah, I'm not listening to you"... which is effectively what has been happening with all the deleted posts.

I get that it is a self-moderated topic and OP is free to do as they please in that regards, but isn't it slightly hypocritical to complain about "abuse of power" and then abuse your self-moderation "power" by simply deleting one side of the debate?
I have seen many posts quoted (and responded to) prior to being deleted.

Perhaps the deletions are to prevent the thread from being derailed.
2284  Other / Meta / Re: I got banned... Can i get a ban for just one message or was this mistake? on: February 21, 2019, 05:14:31 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1137389
nobytes

Your mistake, because your account is forbidden because: copy / paste, plagiarism.
Copy:
Nope, you can find that from their ico page:
"(a)while purchasing Tokens you acknowledge that you are not a permanent residence permit (green card) holder in the United States of America, or (ii) a citizen or a resident (tax or otherwise) of the United States of America, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, or any other possessions of the United States of America, or People's Republic of China, or a person of these countries or territories or (iii) a citizen or resident (tax or otherwise) of any country or territory where transactions with digital tokens and/or digital currencies are prohibited or in any other manner restricted by applicable law."

Original:
Hereby TedLab disclaims the following: (a) while purchasing Tokens you acknowledge that you are not a permanent residence permit (green card) holder in the United States of America, or (ii) a citizen or a resident (tax or otherwise) of the United States of America, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands of United States, or any other possessions of the United States of America, or People's Republic of China, or South Korea, or a person of these states or (iii) a citizen or resident (tax or otherwise) of any country or territory where transactions with digital tokens and/or digital currencies are prohibited or in any other manner restricted by applicable law."
This particular post should be acceptable because the context of the post is clearly quoting another source.

The post that hilarious quoted is not acceptable IMO. I am not sure if there are other examples of plagiarism or not.
2285  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: February 21, 2019, 06:10:45 AM

Poor fella inherited the false-flag gene but not the get-away-with-false-flag gene(ology.)  Sucks to be him...he should have chosen a different mother.


Perhaps when the judge asks him how he wants to plead, he can say that he identifies as innocent.

He was indicted by a grand jury earlier today, and will face felony charges related to his alleged false police report.

This story on its face was ridiculous and not believable. It does not sound like he had any help in planning this scam, at least not from anyone smart.

If I had to guess, I would say Smollett is an extreme liberal who surrounds himself with others who agree with his views, no matter how ridiculous, and never has to defend his views. 

Yeah. What had me shaking my head at the beginning was the fact that people recognized that he was an actor on Empire. Now if this was a pleasant Spring day, then sure, that wouldn't have caught my attention. But it was -10 degrees on a Chicago night and, for those that don't know, Chicago is known for it's biting wind. Everyone has on hats, and hoodies, and balaclavas. They are hunched over and walking quickly to get to where they are going. No one is going look up, no one is going to recognize him with a hat on and hunched over.

And this has nothing to do with all the other sillinesses and inconsistencies in his story.
That and in general, Trump supporters don’t watch Empire.

If anything, this was gang activity if the attack was real.
2286  Economy / Lending / Re: How to put fiat at collateral to take loan from forum members on: February 21, 2019, 04:12:00 AM
You can use a stablecoin.
2287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: February 21, 2019, 03:58:52 AM
I want Bernie or Warren to win, mostly because it will be so awesome to watch Republican talking heads exploding for 4 straight years!

I wonder if Biden is going to run, does he want to go out out on top or risk losing to primary voters who may have shifted to his left too far?  I wonder if Biden is more worried about the primary than the general?

Are you enjoying watching the Democratic talking heads exploding? I think that the Democratic Party may come to an end if the Sanders wing wins. Neither the corporate Dems nor the Labor Dems can stand their identitarian, intersectional view of the world. The corporate Dems know that their money will dry up and the labor Dems know that they will be sacrificed at a heart beat for the next cause de jour.

Sanders has helped move the Democratic party to the left as many of the major contenders are emulating his socialist economic views (such as proposing medicare for all).

Obama was accused of being a socialist early in his first term, which he denied and many of his defenders refuted. Today, many in the Democratic party proudly wear that title, and back socialist proposals. 
2288  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: February 21, 2019, 03:54:53 AM
He was indicted by a grand jury earlier today, and will face felony charges related to his alleged false police report.

This story on its face was ridiculous and not believable. It does not sound like he had any help in planning this scam, at least not from anyone smart.

If I had to guess, I would say Smollett is an extreme liberal who surrounds himself with others who agree with his views, no matter how ridiculous, and never has to defend his views. 
2289  Economy / Reputation / Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★ on: February 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Perhaps you should learn what it means to respect someone who doesn’t want something.

Yet your faux ethics justifies doxing someone "who doesn’t want [to be doxed]". I don't think I should learn anything from you, scammer.
In case it was unclear, I don’t respect you.

In addition to the above, you failed to respond to my criticism and instead resorted to ad-hominem attacks.
2290  Economy / Reputation / Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★ on: February 20, 2019, 06:35:49 PM
Remove marlboroza (me, me) from DT2

Go here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Add this to your trust list:

~marlboroza

I respect him by including him in DT2. [...]
You have a different definition of respect than I do.

Perhaps you should learn what it means to respect someone who doesn’t want something.


Am on mobile and voted yes because I misclicked. I meant to vote 🗳 no.
2291  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: February 20, 2019, 05:13:38 PM
Trump is not in your poll Huh (To win the presidency). 

I expect Sanders to make it past the early primaries because of his grassroots fundraising ability and as such will likely be one of the last to be eleminated from contention. Out of those who have a realistic chance of winning the nomination, he has the least damaging platform as the party has moved far to the left.

Biden is very well known and may win the primary but if he does, he may have exposure from his potential involvement in the spying on the trump campaign (this mat have to do with why trump hasn’t declassified relevant information that many are calling for).

Harris was too hard on crime during her time as CA AG which will make her struggle with those who might have voted for her because of identity politics.

Booker has written he has sexually assaulted a woman in the past and should have no chance of winning the presidency because of this.

Pocahontas has too much baggage from pretending to be an Indian for her own personal financial gain and it will be easy to highlight the unfairness of forced “diversity” in addition to the fact she is a fraud.

Klobuchar Is too moderate to have a realistic chance. She has the least damaging platform of those I am familiar with. The WSJ editorial board endorsed her candidacy.

Beto Francis seems to have come out of nowhere and likely raised as much as he did because Democrats were trying to win the Senate and that seat was the easiest path to do so.

Gillibrand has changed her views so dramatically it is difficult to tell what kind of administration she would run. She appears to take whatever position she thinks is most popular and has the best chance of getting elected. I don’t think she is a serious candidate.

Everyone else I either don’t know enough about, haven’t heard of and/or doesn’t have a realistic chance of making it past the early primaries.

I suspect someone with extreme views/platform will win the nomination and lose to trump. Trumps criminal reform will likely get some moderates on the left to vote for him and more will vote for him once the effects of his tax cuts are more well known and understood by the masses.
2292  Other / New forum software / Re: Merit isn’t enough, tipping using LN on: February 20, 2019, 01:11:00 PM
The forum will never hold users’ money.

People are free to open LN channels and send tips if they so choose.
2293  Economy / Services / Re: Earn BTC even if you have RED TRUST on: February 19, 2019, 07:40:34 AM
You have nothing to lose here my friend, anyway you have a red trust already in this forum, so why not try this, i wont ask anything from you especially a payment and also no referrals here.

p.s. those who dont have a red trust can participate and earn btc too

just pm in me telegram account @rotation.

reminder: you need to have an account from Member to legendary

adios
sounds interesting
These people are alts.

Also this is very likely a scam.
Yeah seems so.

Out of curiosity I added him on telegram and this was his offer :
Quote
Cancerous:
this is a signature campaign in bitcointalk.org but you need to register in our websites.

rates per week in btc
.0025 member
.0037 full member
.0075 sr. member
.013 hero
.025 legendary

once you register in our website,  you will only put your referral link in your signature, its ok even if you dont post for a week, just dont take away your referral link in your signature

your username in our website should be the same with your bitcointalk account

Edit : When I asked if he'd escrow the amount, he stopped replying.
hisori approached me via PM and offered similar rates. I tole him I would require advance payment and that I would want to review what I would be advertising before agreeing to any deal, to which he replied in essence he would not pay in advance. I responded I would be willing to use escrow at his expense, but did not hear back, although he likely hit his PM limit when he sent his second message.
2294  Economy / Reputation / Re: Need community opinion regarding negative feedback. on: February 19, 2019, 07:24:33 AM
He is not making a fake vouch (or any vouch for that matter), he is only disagreeing with your conclusion that on its face that thread is a scam.

I think vb2005 is wrong, as I think the claims the OP made in that thread regarding the specs of their miner are fraudulent on its face. However this is based on my own experience, and if anyone wants to disagree with me, I am willing to back up my position with my reasoning.

I don't think it is appropriate to label someone a scammer because they disagree with you as to what is automatically a scam in non-explicit cases. It would be more appropriate to explain to him why you believe his conclusions are incorrect/inaccurate, and hopefully he will change his position. 

Perhaps his (what I believe to be) flawed reasoning is due to his inexperience. Some in this thread say patriotism might be influencing his stance. His worldview might be causing him to make this conclusion. Or maybe he is in fact a shill of that scammer.

I would not say it is a foregone conclusion that vb2005 is a shill, and I cannot rule out other reasonable possibilities. Until and unless you can reasonably rule out alternatives to him being a shill (within reason), a negative is not appropriate.



You can ignore anything suchmoon says. She will never tell anyone with power they are wrong, except in a dispute with two people in power, in which case she will take the side of the one with more power. She is a "yesman", or in her case, a "yeswomen" and should not be taken seriously. Any advice you get from her will not be useful to you.


Your negative is appropriate; if others talk you out of preventing this scam, I will tag him myself.
tagging either one of these people is not going to prevent anyone from being scammed. Potential customers can read Phil's comments and reach the conclusion not to do business with that person. Tagging vb2005 is certainly not going to prevent this specific scam. 
2295  Economy / Lending / Re: Bitk0ynR2’s Loaning Discord Server on: February 19, 2019, 06:21:04 AM
Quote
What are downpayments? --
The amount of bits you have to transfer to me first to receive your loan. After successful return of the loan, you will get your downpayment back
This sounds like a scam. There is no reason to ask for this. 🧻
Ive never asked for his reasoning behind this but I’m sure its to help preventing himself from being scammed. Ive given the downpayments myself along with many others on the server and still got the loans.
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Member]  200 bits - Return in 24 hours - 75% downpayment - 0%
No. in the above example, a 50 bit, no collateral loan is being made after the “down payment” is accounted for. There is no reason to require a down payment.
2296  Other / Serious discussion / Re: The idea of taking away all of Satoshi's bitcoin? on: February 19, 2019, 05:36:00 AM
if we really recycle those 10-year-old unmoved bitcoin into new mining rewards, then all of Satoshi's addresses will be emptied too! This could possibly boost up the confidence of investors/holders, as the fear of Satoshi dumping his/her bitcoin will vanish.
Just playing devil's advocate here. Cool

TL;DR: The idea of "recycling" unused Bitcoins is intriguing.
Unfortunately, it is most likely unusable any time soon.


1. satoshi's stack is a ticking time bomb
We're using a currency where at least 5% (probably much much more) of the supply are in the hands of a handful of unknown entities.
They could, at any time, drop their stash on the markets and crash the exchange rate, thus destroying the wealth of thousands, if not millions of HODLers.
No prudent person, responsible for the wealth of others, e.g. a pension fund manager or a secretary of the treasury should even think about storing a significant share of his funds in Bitcoin, as long as the time bomb is active.
No prudent politician should advocate the widespread use of Bitcoin for fiscal matters.
Thought experiment: let's assume I'm an advisor to POTUS and he asks me "should we stop using the Dollar and use Bitcoin instead?", my unequivocal answer would have to be "no Sir, Satoshi could be the Chinese or the Russians, and once we're at war with them, they'll destroy our economy".
Destroying the stash could defuse the time bomb.
You could make this same argument for anyone who has a very substantial stash of coins. I believe Tim Draper purchased enough coins from the DOJ (who got them from SR/DPR) to do similar damage that you describe. The Gox trustee is in a similar situation (who actually represents the interests of thousands of people), and ACTUALLY DID crash the price by nearly 2/3 in late 2017/early 2018 by selling off a portion of its stash. Once the GOX coins are eventually distributed to former accountholders, there is a good chance many will sell, similarly crashing the price as if a single person was selling as many coins.

Similarly, we do not know if satoshi is one person or a group of people. We also do not know if he was mining for himself or mining for many people when he was mining -- for example, 10 people could have each given him a list of addresses to payout the block rewards to, and satoshi used a custom implementation payout the block rewards to those addresses.

2. diminishing block rewards might become a problem
The general consensus when it comes to ever decreasing block rewards seems to be that "transaction fees will cover that".
But the truth of the matter is: we don't know.
Transaction fees are a special case of "tragedy of the commons" where higher fees might be in the interest of everyone, but each and every single one's interest lies with low or zero fees.
This situation is prone to abuse.
Political entities might take over from economically driven miners, concentrating mining power in the hands of states rather than individuals, offering low or zero fees in return.
A situation with an overwhelming percentage of mining power in the hands of states is ripe for censorship (if not worse).
Even the build-up of "51%-first-strike-capabilities" in an arms race of deterrence in the age of cyber-warfare is not an unthinkable scenario.
Recycling "unused" coins into new block rewards might defuse that situation, by incentivizing private miners.
You are highlighting a flaw in a POW based cryptocurrency that has diminishing block subsidies. I believe etherum initially had a solution to this by never dropping the block subsidy to nearly zero, and having constant, small inflation (which actually also solves some economic problems, but that is off topic here). IOTA's solution to this problem was to require a small amount of POW to confirm your own transactions, and have nothing resembling a block reward.

Your solution also will only delay the inevitable when these long unspent coins are "recycled" back to the miners. It would also encourage spending coins without a corresponding economic transaction, which will result in higher tx fees for everyone. 
2297  Other / Meta / Re: This Is NOT A New Problem... A Walk Down Memory Lane on: February 19, 2019, 05:18:40 AM
The majority of ratings seem to be warning people about red flags, not punishing provable scams.
A lot of the controversial ratings are highlighting what is often a far cry from a "red flag" although it is often framed this way; there is often a weak/no link between the highlighted "red flag" and the potential to scam in the future. There are also some instances in which someone is displaying a lot of actual red flags, and would be appropriate for them to be labeled a "scammer" because the only reasonable explanation is they plan on scamming in the future.

I would argue when there are a small number of "red flags" AND when all the red flags taken together do not indicate this person will (try to) scam in the future, a neutral would be most appropriate.   


Predictability and guidelines are often good. I wrote some Trust guidelines recently, and I may write more. But I don't believe in having a set of hard rules which is to be applied to all cases.
The guidelines have little effect if you are explicitly saying you will not enforce them (within the DT network).

If you have a set of rules and exceptions are consistently being made (or not being made) to a certain person or group of people, then perhaps there is a problem. If there is clear overreach, without accountability or at least an explanation or defense of a rating, there is another problem.


When the DT system was first introduced (or at least when I joined the forum), those on DT1 were businesspeople with a lot of (ongoing) trading/business experience within the forum. These people would select who would be on their trust lists, and when someone they "sponsor" did something wrong, their reputation would somewhat suffer, especially if this person was not removed from their trust list. A good example of this happening was CITM who had an outsized trust list that was not kept up with, which resulted in many scammers eventually getting onto DT via him; after some time, it became widely known his trust list was not good, and there became calls for him to be removed from DT1 (IIRC, he was only removed when he gave a frivolous rating to Dogie, which IMO was far too late).

I think a good solution to DT troubles is to display the sponsor of each rating for ratings given by someone not directly on a person's trust list. For example, if I was looking at kano's trust page, I would see a rating from -ck, who is in my trust network because theymos, OgNasty and cyrus all sponsor him, who are all in my trust network because they are trusted by DefaultTrust, so adjacent to ck-'s rating would be an indication I am seeing this rating because of themos, OgNasty and cryus, and that each of them are in my trust network because of DefaultTrust. This would give a bigger incentive for those on DT1 to maintain a trust list comprised of good/accurate/fair ratings.

In addition to the above, the DT1 selection criteria should be changed back to those who have an ongoing business interest in the forum marketplace.   
2298  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos It's time to make DT blacklist. on: February 18, 2019, 09:36:54 PM

Thread link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.0;all


I am not aware of any allegation that anyone in that thread has stolen money/property, or tried doing the same, nor am I aware of any of those people doing anything that might be consistent with a long con. Do you care to explain why you believe these people are untrustworthy?

I think there's no explanation need about those guys but you wanna hear from my side . yeah they are untrustworthy and there's no reason here to hide it. These guys have got several negative feedback on their trust section and have enough referrence link there to know their past records.I don't know why are you feeling so jealous with that,,,Maybe in your eyes they are trustworhthy because you also bearing multiple red colour on your trust section.

Actually there isn’t any allegation that they have done anything that is reasonably described as a scam or scam attempt, not on their trust page or elsewhere. The negative feedback they have is from people not liking trying to get people to distrust Lauda and using negative trust to discourage others from siding with them. 

I don’t think any of them are particularly trustworthy, don’t have any of them on my trust list and certainly would not trust them with money. I would treat them as any other person with neutral trust and little/no trading history.

I don’t really understand why so many people are willing to defend lauda. He is a scammer who has extorted at least one person (unsuccessfully), is not transparent in his business dealings to the extent it is likely he was advertising multiple scams and stole hundreds of bitcoin (priced at 10k+) in his escrow dealings and is very immature. I have not seen him provide any original research in finding alleged scammers, as he is mostly reacting to reports found in reputation and scam accusations. If you ask my opinion, I would say he is using his title of “scam buster” to shield himself from criticism and from being held accountable for stealing from others.
2299  Economy / Lending / Re: Bitk0ynR2’s Loaning Discord Server on: February 18, 2019, 05:49:30 AM
Quote
What are downpayments? --
The amount of bits you have to transfer to me first to receive your loan. After successful return of the loan, you will get your downpayment back
This sounds like a scam. There is no reason to ask for this. 🧻
2300  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mining causes global warming?! on: February 18, 2019, 03:41:57 AM
With the Green New DealTM, fossil fuels will be eliminated, so no matter how much electricity crypto mining uses, it will not add to global CO2 output.

Electricity will also probably be too expensive (and unreliable) for mining to make sense unless price or difficulty changes dramatically if the GND is passed.
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