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2321  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 17, 2019, 07:05:55 PM
User duesoldi added by coinlocket$,
He have left 9 positive feedback starting from 2019-01-11, and also by local language. No any reference link or no any negative feedback.

User Micio  added by coinlocket$,
Although his all feedback old. He does not leaving feedback from last 2 month but all the feedback is positive, no any negative feedback there.  

@coinlocket$ can you please revise your custom list (DT2) ?
I've sent him a PM about this. Hopefully he will respond soon.
2322  Other / Meta / Re: [TOP-200] Members who have a lot of earned sMerits on: January 17, 2019, 07:04:25 PM
I'd like to see a list of the Legendaries who have earned more than 1,000 merits.
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LoyceV            1567    Legendary
suchmoon    1327    Legendary
The Pharmacist    1320    Legendary
hilariousetc    1277    Legendary
Last of the V8s    1217    Legendary
There you go. Source: https://bpip.org/.

I suspect there's an easy way of seeing that data, but I don't know how to do it myself.  Does Vod's BPIP site have a way to collate that info? 
No per-rank breakdown, just a 'top merited' list.
2323  Other / Meta / Re: Meta posting - summa cum Lauda (sic) on: January 17, 2019, 06:07:16 PM
Watch out which coin you choose, someone might dig it up 5 years later and claim you intentionally supported some scamcoin.  Cheesy
I'm hoping to dig up some 5 year old Bitcoin. I've even got a domain name for the search. Smiley
You need to change your name to bitcoinhunter and it might work. Just watch out that you don't go crazy. Tongue
2324  Other / Meta / Re: Meta posting - summa cum Lauda (sic) on: January 17, 2019, 06:02:20 PM
Right at this moment I'm more interested in deciding if I should start to use Grin or Beam. Grin seems to be better for everyday payments, but some people think Beam is better for asset transfers.
Watch out which coin you choose, someone might dig it up 5 years later and claim you intentionally supported some scamcoin.  Cheesy
2325  Other / Meta / Re: Show your trust list! on: January 17, 2019, 05:59:15 PM
cos drug addict lauda
What is this? Are you Quickseller's trusted source of the pill abuse accusation? Cheesy
2326  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Statistics about bounty campaigns? on: January 17, 2019, 04:33:39 PM
No, and it is hard to know given that there are:
1) An unknown number of users using an unknown number of multiple accounts.
2) An unknown number of fake bounty managers.
2327  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Max Property Group (formerly known as Dominium), Millions of Tokens Evaporated on: January 17, 2019, 04:25:39 PM
Are there any other accounts related to this project other than the bounty managers? Please list them if they exist.
2328  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 04:12:44 PM
I wasn't referring to you specifically
However you support OP (7 merit) who include all participants of thread in 1 distrust list regardless of their opinion and experience.

Haste makes waste.
The list in OP is a bit excessive; I was more conservative and excluded about ~12 users. This may drop a bit with more analysis. Referring to opinion and experience in general is pointless here.

you are dog of lauda you are lie
Yes, cats keep dogs as pets.
2329  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 04:03:31 PM
TMAN, you're coming across as a real asshole here.
RIP TMAN; but this is something that we all knew. Cheesy

People who make these reports should separately report groups where there is no merit and where merit is being abused.
okay, but it is not obvious for user who just try to make local board a little cleaner, isn't it? Merit abuse and hundreds of posts with low value from farmers it's same shit for me.
It isn't for you, which is why you should not be part of DT. I've tried suggesting that we should start tagging excessive spammers a long time ago, but it was ultimately rejected by theymos despite the support from many DT members.

We had a good approximation of what was actually written in there.
According what you did, you had not.
I do, and I stand by my tags (which were handed out only to two users that I've spotted in that thread).

It doesn't look like they have a mature candidate for DT1 though. That's just my personal opinion.
Given how hard it was to get added into DT2 up until recently, I'd even state that they almost have no mature candidates for that layer either. Nice analysis though.
2330  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 02:46:21 PM
xenon131 - seems to think that anyone not explicitly trusted by theymos is a "manipulator":
By the way, if you want to see whom theymos trusts, remove the DefaultTrust entry from your field and add only theymos and nothing more. Click Update. (this can be done with respect to any member of the community) Then Depth 1 will show a list of people he trusts himself. And there is NO one of his algorithm. This means that the existing DT1 is created (by an algorithm) by manipulating a certain group of the community, while all others are / are in the dark.
And this "manipulation" sentiment is echoed throughout the thread as one of the reasons to vote Russians into DT1.

We are not abusing anything. Just spreading the word about changes in trust system.
2331  Other / Meta / Re: Farms of account sellers in the Russian branch "Off-topic" on: January 17, 2019, 02:36:01 PM
Code:
Name	    User ID	Position	Registration Date	  Last Active	Posts	Activity	Trust	Merit
sergoia65 2366970 Jr. Member 8/27/2018 9:30:21 PM 1/13/2019 6:29:39 PM 169 140 0 6
sergoya66 2366949 Member        8/27/2018 9:03:05 PM 1/13/2019 6:21:01 PM 124 124 0 13
serquia54 2366974 Jr. Member 8/27/2018 9:34:44 PM 1/13/2019 6:52:40 PM 79 79 0 2
cryptocrys7 2366965 Member        8/27/2018 9:25:49 PM 1/13/2019 6:36:57 PM 107 107 0 10
sergeyawa1 1857021 Jr. Member 2/20/2018 2:07:07 AM 1/13/2019 6:14:10 PM 1411 322 0 2
sergeyawa4 2317796 Jr. Member 7/31/2018 1:34:24 PM 1/14/2019 11:54:39 PM 161 161 0 2
sergeyawa3 2317790 Member        7/31/2018 1:30:37 PM 1/12/2019 5:39:41 PM 182 182 0 10
sergeyawa2 2296106 Member        7/20/2018 10:55:18 PM 1/14/2019 11:41:58 PM 248 182 0 10

can you link the accounts please ill happily tag these for you
sergoia65
sergoya66
serquia54
cryptocrys7
sergeyawa1
sergeyawa4
sergeyawa3
sergeyawa2
2332  Other / Meta / Re: Another spam farm "is grown" on: January 17, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
Yeah, he's building farms like a conveyor belt. Based on the analysis of the history of sending merits Mal Reynolds found another farm - Members:

raditerko
rondafke
amorfuse
orelache
ultofresto
dreklapse
roweakler
There's a problem with handling this: he could have sent merit to more than just his own accounts or the accounts of the buyers of merit. The users who have received merit from someone else other than Mal Reynolds I can't be sure.

Farm send merit each other. All their posts is shitposting.
Clickable usernames would be helpful!
2333  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 02:18:32 PM
Indeed. I think he meant that xandry as a somewhat more reputable member and staff member should have pointed this out to the rest of us.
Post in Meta or talk to other mods those are expected actions of a person of responsibility. I do think the ~Defaulttrust user should of been banned and post removed though - that is shoddy as hell leaving that there - what if It actually worked?
Indeed. I've confirmed with theymos that it can't work and that you need to escape the exclusion character to trust a prefixed (~) username. The account should have been nuked and the registration of such accounts disabled.

snip
Distrust all users only because they posts in thread that you can't even read properly? Well done.
We had a good approximation of what was actually written in there. I don't need to be able to read the original if the approximation is good.

Right, and you've contacted people about this how many times? Tagging zero merit newbies that are only shitposters is pointless because:
1) DT members try to avoid tagging someone solely because they are a shitposter (theymoses 'rule').
2) It's a waste of time.

People who make these reports should separately report groups where there is no merit and where merit is being abused.
2334  Other / Meta / Re: [Graph] Account farmers now in Signature Campaign on: January 17, 2019, 02:12:00 PM
For Bidooh, tokens distribution still pending.  I already removed stakes of these participants for signature campaign and currently checking for other parts of Bidooh campaign.
Good.

For CDRX, I need to verify this since we already parted ways to this project and we don't do the tokens distribution.
Not good.

For campaigns I actively managing, I always have this "NOte" from my pinned message that all concerns should be discussed in their respective bounty telegram groups and I am the one who will pm them first if the issue is sensitive or shouldn't be known by others.. I am managing multiple campaigns and it's hard for me attend each concerns if it will be carried out to different places.
That should be a note solely intended for participants. You should not expect external members to join any TG group just to report abuse. This will not help in defending your actions (or lack thereof). Just an FYI.
2335  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 02:09:44 PM
and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.
Please, re-read my post:
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Of course they were upset when their one behind another was thrown out from DT for some strange reason (I didn't read a detail).
It means I don't read a detail in English thread the reason why TheFuzzStone was excluded from DT.
He should have never been there to begin with. If they respond emotionally to one of "their" getting excluded, then they should all be excluded far away from DT. Just the usage of that wording symbolized gang.

no you didn't do what you should - and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.
stop lying about this, there is obvious blatant collusion after the 14th when your "comrade" was excluded - then mob rule came along, some scammer tried to break the whole of DT with ~defaulttrust and I still see that now - why no ban? why no tag?
you are not suitable to do this job, god knows what else goes on in that section. And no I am not racist or whatever else you want to say, I was one of the members who added Alex_SR onto DT.
TBH I wouldn't want moderators to start removing posts on topics like that or otherwise interfering in trust system matters. We're supposed to police ourselves. I'll be excluding some of the obviously unsuitable members, even if they're not malicious but merely misguided. That's all we really need to do. The attempts to game the system are fully expected and even if that thread didn't exist it could still happen via PMs, telegram, etc so we better be ready and check and re-check those DT1/2 newbie lists.
Indeed. I think he meant that xandry as a somewhat more reputable member and staff member should have pointed this out to the rest of us.
2336  Other / Meta / Re: [Graph] Account farmers now in Signature Campaign on: January 17, 2019, 01:23:11 PM
I got negative trust due to this complain. You only wrote about this issue once and I overlooked this message. I barely check my messages here in Bitcointalk and definitely not checking BTT reputation section. I encourage everyone to state their issue to respective bounty telegram groups so I can easily consolidate complains.

To Lauda, could you please be considerate? It wasn't my intention or knowingly involve to this fraudulent activity.
Did the involved users all end up receiving rewards?
2337  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 12:55:58 PM
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taikuri13 (-5)

Just excluded him too.

Lol, for two years he was a member of this forum and sent only one rating and suddenly 3 on the same day....and in English.
This is Farmville 2.2
Nah, this is the evil catbat witch's fault! A good starting point for Trust Lists [The Cult of Lauda] My Trust List. I might add elaborations one day just as Loyce did.

I guess it's time to poke the Turkish and Indonesian section a bit also... Grin Grin
I expect them to be worse, especially Indonesian.

We are not abusing anything. Roll Eyes

The problem isn't the thread itself, it lies in the content of the posts.
Do you really think that if a group of people really want to conspire and start manipulating the trust system they will create a topic and will tell everyone about it?
Haaaa.... Under the table....
Do you really think so? Why so naive?
You're the naive one, thinking that established forum members are going to let this fly.

2338  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 12:42:29 PM
LOL, there, everyone just shares his opinion and peloso speaks about that because has red trust. Did you see that someone support him?
Yes, quite many. Endorsing mutual inclusions is also colluding. Do you really want someone to dump all your trust lists and merit histories? Just don't try to upset marlboroza. Cheesy You should have mentioned it to someone, somewhere after reading it (e.g. opened a thread about it).

There is no such a topic you say? Isn't that the topic? I created mine topic by her example...
The problem isn't the thread itself, it lies in the content of the posts.

We are not abusing anything.
My avatar is not a cat. Both statements are equally honest.

Reminds me of:

Whataboutism
I'm waiting until someone says something in the lines of "they may also be doing this in another local section, so why are you only looking at us?". 
2339  Economy / Reputation / Re: Reference post: Why have I excluded members on my trust list? on: January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
May I suggest not bloating your trust list with exclusions of scammers or other abandoned (neg. rated accounts) that have near zero chance of ever being excluded? For example BITMIXCOIN.IO, with -256:

Quote
Last Active:    June 20, 2018
2340  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 11:11:47 AM
A similar thing happened with the Turkish section. I strongly believe that they keep each other's abuse hidden/protect each other because of it.
I never looked in the Turkish so I am not sure about them but I did some deep investigations in the Russian section back that time when I used to investigate merit abusing. What I learnt that they work together and support each others to kick out others who they don't like.
I'm just waiting for someone to start screaming "Racist" at us. Roll Eyes

Each user can write anything-see who trusts this user and many things will become clear to you!
You can write whatever you want, but be ready to face consequences. That thread is full of collusion, and given that we can see everyone's trust list it is clear that the users have agreed to it.
Read carefully the topic and you will see that all problems are rooted in misunderstanding the system of trust on the part of some users.
I did. While I have not seen signs of direct collusion from you, I have seen it from others. They are prone to 'mutual inclusions and mallicious exclusions', which also tells me that they are pro trust-farming.
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