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2341  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Do not deposit to betvip ... on: March 02, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
It was just a misunderstanding as clarified by betvip due to a glitch caused by either what ndnhc explained above or for any other reason. But I don't think OP's reason to post this topic was just to slander. If I deposited 1 Btc in any casino and it didn't show up in my account, I'd be very worried as well and would think I was scammed. That's what I think happened in this case, OP tried to contact the casino, the problem wasn't resolved and then he chose to report it here. So I don't think Casino or OP should be blamed here.

OP should mark this as solved and close this topic now.

The problem I had with the OP is that he stated he would only wait one hour and then go to posting boards and state that BetVIP was insolvent. He posted in multiple threads that BetVIP was insolvent. He waited less than one hour. I feel that is irresponsible.

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if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent
2342  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTCBook.eu – BTC Sportsbook | 20% DEPOSIT BONUS | UFC 184 PROP BETS! on: March 02, 2015, 04:00:11 AM
I hope they make it but we put them as a "F" on Jan 20th.

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Quote from: Peeps Place on January 20, 2015, 08:25:33 PM
BTCBook downgraded from "D+" to "F"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.640
2343  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: March 02, 2015, 03:58:28 AM
BTCBook downgraded from "D+" to "F"


BTCBook still not paying crazy
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Do not use this sports book!

I am waiting 2 weeks 16 days now to make a withdrawal, they don't answer my emails anymore.
There are 3 options:
They are completely incompetent to run a sportsbook
It's a scam
they don't have BTC to payout anybody

Either way, do not use this sportsbook!


edit- They have been replying to communications but have not paid.



Back to "F"
2344  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: March 02, 2015, 02:04:42 AM
PLAY WITH THE ESTABLISHED BOOKS AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.

Now is not the time to play at new books. It 's best to stay with highly rated books. After the Super Bowl is a popular time for books to run with player's funds. There have been many horror stories in February.


Just to repeat, only play at a top rated books for the Super Bowl as well as some time shortly after the Super Bowl. Many books have gone under after the Super Bowl. One book offered no juice for the Super Bowl. Another book had an off line giving them one way action. They lost the bet and went under.

The same goes for March Madness. This is a huge period for the books. For those that only play American sports, baseball is not very profitable for books. If they are going to shut down, they will do it after the tournament.

For books that cater to American sports, if you are going to play at questionable books, I wouldn't try it until June. If they make it this far they will stay open for American football.

Questionable books should only be played from June until January if they cater to American sports. It's never recommended to play at questionable books but for those that consider risk/reward there are periods that are safer than others.
2345  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 02, 2015, 01:57:00 AM
More BTCBook

spiz0r
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I sent a mail with my username, but we already had a conversation via pm. I replied you 5 times.
Please handle the cashout as soon as you can. Thanks.
2346  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 02, 2015, 12:23:04 AM
Betcoin already has a line up on a long awaited fight. I don't see anyone else with a line but I'm sure that I have to be missing someone.

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Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Set to Fight May 2, 2015 - Lines Available at BetcoinSports!
2347  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Do not deposit to betvip ... on: March 01, 2015, 11:47:11 PM
Although the OP stated that there wasn't a withdrawal page, BetVIP did have a withdrawal page up for all players. Some of what the OP posted is incorrect. The OP also stated the BetVIP was insolvent.
2348  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 01, 2015, 10:37:47 PM
soccerkings
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Re: BTCBook.eu – BTC Sportsbook | 20% DEPOSIT BONUS | UFC 184 PROP BETS!
Today at 10:16:10 PM
Reply with quote  #414
Quote from: BTCBook.eu on Today at 09:12:20 PM
SoccerKings,

Your withdrawal has been approved and will be sent momentarily. I apologize for the inconvenience. We will do our best to approve cash outs much faster going forward after clearing a deposit bonus.

Thanks for your answer but you said the exact same thing over 24 hours ago via email, and this is not the first time this is actually the 3rd time... the previous 2 were cancelled, once by me because I got tired of waiting for the withdrawal to process and the 2nd supposedly cancelled by the system due to a bug.

Btw the approval you mentioned hours ago is still pending and the 1.3BTC has not be sent to my address 19AZJsYUXJGsTSAHUtC8CzuS6SLdcmgDNu





After 6 days of unsuccessfully being able to withdraw ANY amount of BTC from your site I have to say that, If you are not a SCAM, you are at the very least a very horrible experience.

There are way better alternatives out there people, nitro withdrawal process takes 10 to 20 minutes and that is long because lately they have been verified manually, directbet payout takes only 6 minutes MAX

Quote from: BTCBook.eu on Today at 09:12:20 PM
spiz0r,

Please send an email to support@btcbook.eu with your account info and we will get you straightened out.
2349  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 01, 2015, 09:05:40 PM
BTCBook still hasn't addressed the two complaints.
2350  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 01, 2015, 11:05:44 AM
There are a couple of complaints against BTCBook

SoccerKings
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Hi, Btcbook could you please accelerate my withdrawal request of 1.3BTC to the address 19AZJsYUXJGsTSAHUtC8CzuS6SLdcmgDNu I requested it over 24 hours ago and its still pending; It would be nice if you could make withdrawals faster.. Instead of it taking over a day plus a couple emails and a forum post in order to get a withdrawal. It takes away all the sexiness that your offered lines have and disregards the benefit that BTC brings to the online gambling world.

spiz0r
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I am also waiting for a cashout for 5 days. There is something wrong.
2351  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 01, 2015, 10:26:31 AM
I want to make one correction. sbrzol "claimed" that he was owed 30 BTC from bitcoinlivebets, not BetVIP. I don't think that sbrzol disclosed the amount from BetVIP.

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bitcoinlivebets was the first bitcoin book that steal 30 BTC
2352  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 01, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Hi All,

We apologise for any delays in deposits, we are experiencing difficulty with our wallet functionality, as were other sites.

Having said this, we have had our customer service guys up all night this weekend responding to customers questions and concerns. All of which have been dealt with and ALL deposit amounts that are owed have been paid.

We are the worlds first fully licensed Bitcoin Sportbook so we cannot "scam" people out of their money without severe legal repercussions. We have done everything we can to help our valued clients during the last few days with their deposits.

Thank you PeepsPlace for your words on this thread, we appreciate the sense of Bitcoin community that we get from you! It is very damaging to a business for users to start using slander. We are here to help our customers and are always 100% open and honest. The user in question was even given an added bonus for the trouble and had the amount credited shortly after the request to do so.

Warm Regards,
BetVIP



BetVIP- Great news and thanks for jumping in this thread.
2353  Economy / Gambling / Re: ANY BTC Sports BOOK THAT DOES TEAM TOTALS? on: March 01, 2015, 12:38:58 AM
NCAA and or NBA?

Thanks
DBA

Jetwin
2354  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 01, 2015, 12:24:04 AM
There may be a problem at BetVIP. They go to NR

sbrzol
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Do not deposit to betvip

I think betvip is insolvent , your deposits never will be credited to you account and  your withdrawals never will be processed


i am not a noob, as you can see in my history,  bitcoinlivebets was the first bitcoin book that steal 30 BTC from me with a fake bet, they of course disappeared some months later as i predicted

This was posted prior to any posts here by sbrzol. BetVIP went to NR right away.

To all- Please continue to post problems and concerns.
2355  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 28, 2015, 11:31:15 PM
I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.




So to everybody : Do not share anything if you see something messy. (In my case it was at least 3 suspicious valid fact and unfortunately 1 false)  
Input do not wanted from anybody.  

You are the ONLY poster that I've ever criticized. Posters, including myself, posted many complaints against books. We need to see these complaints in order to judge books.

I'm not going to go around and around with you. If you have to justify in your mind what you did, then so be it. The one thing that is important to know is if you were paid or when you get paid.
2356  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 28, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
sbrzol
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if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.



Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

I also sent emails to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.


"I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk."

I've seen this excuse from several of the books when they don't answer questions/problems in their threads for a long period of time.

Every book can easily set up email notification every time there is a post in their thread. The email could go to their cs.
This is very basic.
Every book that has their own thread in the "Gambling" subforum should take responsibility for "keeping an eye" on it.

gogo- I always respect your opinion and hate to back books, but going to live chat and email are their priorities. The big books have a larger player base outside of bitcointalk. This may be a small percentage of their business.

It definitely is a bonus, a book such as Nitrogen is almost always around, but I don't think not being on bitcointalk 24/7 should be held against a book. Books may also have a presence at other forums.

Even the books that keep and eye here ask you to contact support when you have a problem.


Yes, I basically agree with all you posted above.

What I'm suggesting is that every book that has a dedicated thread here should set up an email notification, sent to their cs department, every time someone posts in their thread.

I'd also suggest that every book with a dedicated thread here post in their signature their cs email address.
This would also come in handy if their (the sportsbook's) website is down - readers of their thread will know how to reach them via email.
Great point.
2357  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 28, 2015, 11:16:31 PM
sbrzol
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if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.



Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

I also sent emails to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.


"I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk."

I've seen this excuse from several of the books when they don't answer questions/problems in their threads for a long period of time.

Every book can easily set up email notification every time there is a post in their thread. The email could go to their cs.
This is very basic.
Every book that has their own thread in the "Gambling" subforum should take responsibility for "keeping an eye" on it.

gogo- I always respect your opinion and hate to back books, but going to live chat and email are their priorities. The big books have a larger player base outside of bitcointalk. This may be a small percentage of their business.

It definitely is a bonus, a book such as Nitrogen is almost always around, but I don't think not being on bitcointalk 24/7 should be held against a book. Books may also have a presence at other forums.

Even the books that keep and eye here ask you to contact support when you have a problem.
2358  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 28, 2015, 11:11:14 PM
I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.




So to everybody : Do not share anything if you see something messy. (In my case it was at least 3 suspicious valid fact and unfortunately 1 false)  
Input do not wanted from anybody.  


You shouldn't blame the rating's guide for a "C" rated book when you falsely accuse the book of not having a withdrawal page and being insolvent after one hour.

This purpose of the thread is to post complaints and concerns but it's unfair to make false allegations.
2359  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 28, 2015, 11:01:09 PM
I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.

I took Anonibet down for a couple of days until I looked into some complaints.

2360  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 28, 2015, 10:55:01 PM
I don't think BetVIP saw what you posted.

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Name:   BetVIP
Posts:   319
Activity:   319
Position:   Sr. Member
Date Registered:   February 25, 2014, 10:34:02 AM
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