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2341  Other / Off-topic / Re: *Another* missing plane. on: December 28, 2014, 09:39:11 AM
I suppose, but the thing is, a sinking ship is a lot easier to escape from than being trapped in a metal box which is hurtling towards the ground, that's where my logic is going Tongue
Your logic's not going very far. If you escape from a sinking ship into freezing water, you've got less than half an hour before you pass out from hypothermia and drown. If the water's not freezing, you might be able to survive for a day or two, but what are your chances of being rescued during that time? And a lifeboat by itself won't save you: it just keeps you alive for a few extra days. Unless your ship sinks close to the shore, you're pretty much fucked.
2342  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can block rewards be sent to a multisig address? on: December 28, 2014, 07:30:03 AM
Of course. There are no special requirements for the output(s) of a generation transaction.

EDIT: Freakin' ninjas, man.
2343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't think of it as selling on: December 28, 2014, 05:09:36 AM
You can't possibly think objectively about Bitcoin while you have a few in your pocket. Put down the kool-aid and step away from the keyboard
You can't possibly post seriously in the speculation forum while you don't have a speculative financial position. Put your money where your mouth is and step away from the keyboard.
2344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Probability of Next Block Within 10 Minutes on: December 27, 2014, 10:06:06 AM
It's a Poisson process, with a mean of 10 minutes. So...

What is the probability that the next block will be found within 10 minutes from now?
63.212%

Or within 1 minute?
9.516%

Or 10 seconds?
1.653%

Or 1 second?
0.167%
2345  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price insurance on: December 27, 2014, 04:41:03 AM
If a person has 1000 bucks, buy 250 bucks worth of bitcoin. The remaining balance is your insurance *if the price goes down*. If it does happen, use another 250 to buy more. whatever balance remaining is still your insurance in case of a drop. As it goes down further, use that to buy more until you are dry  Grin

It sounds silly because if you don't believe in any of these insurance thing, then use the whole of 1000 to buy at the spot price.

You really have no idea how hedging works, do you? I, for one, would value BTC derivatives. At the very least, I expect a lot of attention to married puts.

Hedging is a form of investment insurance. If you bet 250 and pile up another 500 when price goes down, basically that is done to protect your position.

2346  Other / Off-topic / Re: I know there is no such thing as 'free energy' but what if it was possible? on: December 27, 2014, 01:34:00 AM
When we understand that Tesla's "flying saucer" was powered by a so called "free energy system", a.k.a. 'over  unity'-system (you get more energy out than you put in) at a time when the fledgling aviation and motor car industry was based on the oil and petroleum, it is quite easy to understand what happened to these inventions.
Yes, it is quite easy to understand what happened to these inventions: they never worked is what happened to them. Roll Eyes
2347  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many triangles do you see? on: December 26, 2014, 12:03:10 PM
What are you people on about? It's not subjective. It's a geometric figure composed of 15 vertices and 30 line segments. A closed figure composed of three sets of collinear line segments forms a triangle. How many triangles can be so formed from this figure? That is an objective question, and has a definite answer.
2348  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price insurance on: December 26, 2014, 10:54:53 AM
Haha, thanks. We will probably release vanilla options by the end of Jan. I just want to know whether people need it.  Grin
Yeah, I just found your other thread about that, thereby making my earlier response seem redundant. I've spoken on numerous occasions about the need for vanilla options, and now you're making me put my money where my mouth is. I'll need some time to think about this.
2349  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price insurance on: December 26, 2014, 10:06:27 AM
Do you need some kind of insurance that will compensate you if the price goes down?
We already have some kind of insurance against that (you should know, you're providing it). What we need is a better kind of insurance, ie, vanilla options. Get to it.
2350  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many triangles do you see? on: December 26, 2014, 04:41:55 AM
However, one could also argue the title contains the word "triangle" as an additional one.  (27+1)



With that said, I had a strong feeling that Foxpup would not only answer the puzzle...but be one of the few to answer it correctly.
I actually wasn't going to until I saw all the incorrect answers. I can understand 26; I can see how people might miss that the whole thing is a giant triangle. But 22? 34?? How do you get that? Do other people just suck at counting? Huh
2351  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many triangles do you see? on: December 26, 2014, 01:29:05 AM
27
2352  Other / Off-topic / Re: So I abandonned these forums.... and what have you ppl dont to the price ? on: December 25, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
Anything exicitng been happeing ??
Cops arrested some of the degenerates yet ?
Charlie Shrem was sentenced to 2 years jail, finally putting an end to that little debacle. I think that's the most interesting thing that's happened during your absence. The US Marshals Service auctioned the second lot of coins seized from the Silk Road, but that's less interesting.
2353  Other / Meta / Re: Petition to unban dank on: December 25, 2014, 08:08:49 AM
Whole threads of utter bullshit - in the altcoin or speculation sections, for example - are somehow exempt?

Hmmmkay...
Utter bullshit is allowed if it's on topic. I think that's the reason dank wasn't banned sooner - he used to keep all his bullshit posts to his own bullshit threads.
2354  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-12-22] Why Bitcoin’s Erratic Price Doesn’t Matter on: December 22, 2014, 02:58:53 PM
cant read it, i get an error  Embarrassed - paywall?!

Works for me.
Not for me. Sad
2355  Other / Off-topic / Re: I have nothing to say.... on: December 22, 2014, 09:34:04 AM



Read the first comment after watching the 30 second video
What's wrong with donkeys?
2356  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I see bitcoin as a ponzi scheme on: December 22, 2014, 09:04:45 AM
I'm inclined to think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme for a number of reasons:
Actually, there is only one reason to think that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme, and that is that people are paying its inventor who promises to invest those monies profitably, but instead he is merely using the money to pay out earlier investors. But this is plainly not even remotely true of Bitcoin, therefore it is not a Ponzi scheme. It may overvalued, a speculative bubble, or any number of other things, but not a Ponzi scheme. A Ponzi scheme is a specific type of scam which Bitcoin is not.

1. Quality of a currency - It fails this for me in terms of lacking the tangibility of gold. Now people will say that gold or fiat is not 'tangible', but the guns that enforce currencies are, and the fact that millions of ignorant people want to adorn themselves with gold, makes it a value for at least the next 100 years.
So, something is only valuable if you can force people to accept it? Funny, I thought thought something was only valuable if people are willing to accept it without being forced to. And I guarantee that very few of the people who use gold as money do so because they want to adorn themselves with it.

2. Bitcoin's usefulness - I've just been to a bitcoin conference in NZ. Unquestionably cryptocurrencies are 'useful'. The technology is amazing. This however does not mean 'coins' are valuable; only that the technology is useful. People will say the technology is the coin, but actually, one of its appeals is that it is scalable, open source, but that just means to be that it will be duplicated.
It has been duplicated. Many times. The duplicates are, without exception, almost entirely worthless. If you want to separate the coin from the technology, go ahead and try. Let us know how that works out for you.

3. Bitcoin's evolution - Some critics to me at the conference told me that bitcoin can develop insofar as the protocol can be changed. I'd like to know more about this. How a consensus can be reached to change it, because it strikes me as a rubbery problem. My understanding talking to everyone was that 'all parties' (miners, developers, users, et al) have to be satisfied to make changes. I was also told that architecture-wise, some changes are very hard to make. I was told this by developers.
And the problem is?
 
4. Inflation from mining - Bitcoin is limited to 21 million BTC. The implication is that there is 42% of inflation to arise over the next 10 years. That is plenty of timer for a new coin to develop without inflation. Why? No mining. Mining is a cost. I'm told that mining adds a cost of 10% to each coin, but that seems too high. Maybe they mean something else. Ultimately the cost is 42% over 10 years.
Without mining, how will you incentivise the security of the blockchain? Oh right, you were going to separate the coin from the technology. Carry on.

5. Redemption - There is a problem getting bitcoins into something I really need - cash. I've heard that its hard to get the currency you want; which strikes me as a liquidity issue.
You've heard wrong.

It seems likely that banks will create their own coins, and that these will get far greater credibility.
Really? Every bank using its own currency? How will you pay people who use a different bank? Will you have to exchange your currency every time you go to the store? That doesn't seem very credible to me.

They have 10 years before the inflation of mining expires with bitcoin.
Why 10 years?

The reason I think its a ponzi scheme is that I think developers, having invested in the development of their coin, they want a pay-out.
How does that make it a Ponzi scheme? In fact, how does that make it different from any other business?

I think anarcho-capitalists, as many are, ethically believe 'market rules', so if you can make money on this 'unregulated market', then why not. Ethically, I think it eases their conscience not to consider the negatives.
Elaborate. What are the negatives? You can only make money in a free market by selling something people want to buy. You can't force people to buy something they don't want. Seller gets money, buyer gets something they want. What's the problem?
2357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [2014-12-17] FBI INVESTIGATE FUNGAL MENINGITIS on: December 22, 2014, 07:03:09 AM
I don't get it. 64 dead and 687 injured from contaminated medication? That sounds like something worthy of investigation by the FBI. What's so controversial about that?
2358  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does volume of transaction matter while theres so many bots trading? on: December 22, 2014, 04:14:14 AM
So we can assume that the transaction volume doesnt necessarily reflect people demand?
No, of course it reflects people demand. All bots are trading on behalf of real people, using real people's money. If there was no demand from real people, there'd be no bots.
2359  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shrem to jail for two years!!! Holy shit! on: December 20, 2014, 07:30:43 AM
That's terrible news. He didn't do anything ethically wrong.
He was BitInstant's AML compliance officer. By taking the job, he accepted a duty to report money laundering and ensure his company was complying with all relevant laws. The moment this duty conflicted with his own sense of ethics, he should have quit. Whether money laundering is ethical is beside the point, since he voluntarily agreed to enforce the laws (and the money laundering charge was dropped anyway).

Throughout all this, I've been wondering how much he was actually complicit in the Silk Road stuff. Apparently he knew that btcking had something to do with the Silk Road, but was it just a bit of passing knowledge, or was he actually very purposefully trying to help btcking with money laundering? I'd feel better if it was the latter, since at least he'd have known the risks ahead of time.
It was the latter. Not only that, he used his position in the company to prevent btcking's transactions from being flagged as suspicious, and hide those transactions from the BitInstant's founder, Gareth Nelson. He abused his power in a blatantly illegal and unethical way, that's all there is to it.
2360  Other / Off-topic / Re: mutually inducing electromagnetic generators on: December 19, 2014, 02:59:45 AM
Take two independent wire loops and stack them on top of each other (not touching)
like this (perspective):   
      (-E) ----o----- (+E)
      (+E) ----o----- (-E)
material: conductor with fixed protons and movable electrons.
Impossible. An ideal conductor cannot have a potential across it. An electric potential can only exist between two points if there is electrical resistance between those points. Maintaining that potential requires a constant power input. If the reasons for any of these points are not obvious, you need to go back to school.

The electric potential will be orbiting around part one loops in the positive x direction.  Like potentials (both positive or both negative) will always be on opposite sides from each other.  This is caused by charges orbiting in the +y and +z direction.
This is the point where I gave up even trying to make sense of what you're saying. Orbiting potentials? Anyone else want to take a stab at it?


While I was at the bank waiting, someone entered my car and lifted keys from it. 
You left your keys in your car? What kind of idiot are you? Well, I guess you're only an idiot if you make the same sort of mistake twice.

He robbed me of my laptops and tried to set me up to get killed.  The Toshiba laptop had 50,000 DTC on it at 2:30 pm on Aug 27th.   The password is packed with it in the back pack.
Okay, now you're an idiot. Roll Eyes
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