sbrzol if i do not get it within 1 hour i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you are inslovent It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent. Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes, they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again) still did not credit my account, only after i wrote into their topic Emails were sent to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk. |
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You waited one hour and then claimed a book to be insolvent. You falsely accused them of not having a withdrawal page. You think that "C" rated books aren't going to go under even though it's not recommended to play there. Do I have this straight?
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sbrzol if i do not get it within 1 hour i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you are inslovent It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent. |
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sbrzol - I can't try to help without your permission. Please send email address and include that I have permission to look into your account. Thanks
edit- You are understandably upset but there is no way in the world to prevent "C" and "D" rated books from going under. You should know that as well as anyone.
PanAm was rated "A", or a top book depending on rating system, at all rating's sites and ran away with millions.
BetVIP is located in Europe so I wouldn't expect them to answer until tomorrow, if they do decide to answer.
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They have NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?
I just looked and they have a withdrawal page. i have no withdrawal page , only deposit link , at "my account " there is only 3 data Account Summary Date Registered January 17, 2015 20:26 Last Login February 28, 2015 23:03 Current IP Address If I go to "My Account" I get this on the left. My Account
Deposit
My Betting History
My Account History
Withdrawal Wallets
Withdraw Funds |
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sbrzol - PM me your email address or account number. Whichever one that you use there.
There will be a lot of books that go under. You can't blame a rating's guide for the failure of every book "C" and "D" rated book. You should have taken it as a warning instead of blame. If an "A" or "B" rated site stiffs players, that's a different story.
Bitcoinlivebets was a top book at another rating's guide at bitcointalk and they were predicted to go under this thread.
As i said in the (original) betvip topic bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account and steal 30 BTC from me , I predicted that they will disappear, nobody believed me, the review site assisted to bitcoinlivebets stealing , bitcoinlivebets odds was totally messed up https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312080.msg8164716#msg8164716How can get a book (betvip) rate C if they have no withdrawal option on their page? Since when betvip has no withdrawal option on their page? How long they have the issue with the deposits? Why does it took 8 hours to credit my account? Why did not they send back my deposit as i asked them 2 times 3 and 5 hours ago? i think betvip has to answer my emails or send back my 1 BTC as i asked them. Why should you (or anybody) contact them to ask the same thing like me to send back my 1 BTC? I do not understand it. They have a withdrawal page. Once again "C" books are not recommended and many will go under. Send me your email address including permission to look into your account. Thanks |
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They have NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?
I just looked and they have a withdrawal page. |
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Seems like there are some people in the anonibet thread talking about having their withdraws sent without a miner fee. Is this a known thing?
Yes, I know about it and will look into it. There are complaints every day on other books as well. Just providing input, as requested. I didn't see anything about that on here and wasn't sure if it was something to be concerned about or not. Thanks for looking into it. Thanks, appreciate it and I sincerely mean that since I may miss a lot of things. |
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Seems like there are some people in the anonibet thread talking about having their withdraws sent without a miner fee. Is this a known thing?
Yes, I know about it and will look into it. There are complaints every day on other books as well. |
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sbrzol - PM me your email address or account number. Whichever one that you use there.
There will be a lot of books that go under. You can't blame a rating's guide for the failure of every book "C" and "D" rated book. You should have taken it as a warning instead of blaming others. If an "A" or "B" rated site stiffs players, that's a different story.
I will "try" to help. Another guy was owed a disputed 70 BTC and was paid after talking it over with BetVIP.
Bitcoinlivebets was a top book at another rating's guide at bitcointalk and they were predicted to go under this thread.
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your rating is good for nothing "C" rated books BetVIP C (2014) betvip is insolvent https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972053.0you Peeps Place should deposit and withdraw weekly at least one times to all your rated (above D) bitcoin sportbook to check them They have NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ? your work and topic is good for nothing They were rated "C"............. "A" and "B" books are recommended. They aren't insolvent. That doesn't mean they will pay. |
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There may be a problem at BetVIP. They go to NR sbrzol Do not deposit to betvip
I think betvip is insolvent , your deposits never will be credited to you account and your withdrawals never will be processed
i am not a noob, as you can see in my history, bitcoinlivebets was the first bitcoin book that steal 30 BTC from me with a fake bet, they of course disappeared some months later as i predicted |
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WEBcreator - "i've been wondering why i dont see directbet in any of these rating? they have been established for 1 year + anyway" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1380Post #1386 DirectBet - "It's time to put a stop to this practice, where hustlers are asking Bitcoin Sportsbooks for payments in order to get a good review and rating, or else they get discredited in forums along with a reduced rating. Peeps is in a conflict of interests as he is getting paid by some Bitcoin Sportbooks to advertise them on his website and promote them in forums and therefore he does not have the authority or creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks. If you want this thread to be a true discussion on books, remove the ratings. Otherwise, at the very least put a disclaimer in the opening post that this is a paid advertisement." this is enough proof and information why you dont list directbet in any of your rating and btw, do check the anonibet thread, there is an issue there with withdrawal, u might want to take a look there It was the other way around. DirectBet didn't like their rating so they strated throwing out false allegations. There was never a problem until their rating went up. I was going to leave DirectBet up. Others complained that they were ruining the thread and said that they should be taken off the rating's guide edit- The only thing that's ever been deleted is DirectBet talk. It's been well established here but will let the above stand. |
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stayeduptolate OMG THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 10 out of 10 betmoose thank you for this post Smiley
guys can we please just move on directBet do you and run your book and make it Hugely successful peeps good job with the thread no more bickering lets get back to making sports books better by the day!!! and then the new ghosts - peepsplace This poster here registered July 28th. Many backing DirectBet have just registered. |
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BetMoose on DirectBet ................ bashing down what WAS before this shitstorm a decent thread for news, updates, issues and disputes where players and operators can come and talk about problems and settle them if I was Peeps I would've already taken you off the list |
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WEBcreator - "i've been wondering why i dont see directbet in any of these rating? they have been established for 1 year + anyway" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.1380Post #1386 DirectBet - "It's time to put a stop to this practice, where hustlers are asking Bitcoin Sportsbooks for payments in order to get a good review and rating, or else they get discredited in forums along with a reduced rating. Peeps is in a conflict of interests as he is getting paid by some Bitcoin Sportbooks to advertise them on his website and promote them in forums and therefore he does not have the authority or creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks. If you want this thread to be a true discussion on books, remove the ratings. Otherwise, at the very least put a disclaimer in the opening post that this is a paid advertisement." gogo- You know that's not the reason. A couple of reasons to follow. |
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New site .casinoco.com/sports/ 100% bonus but read the fine print. You must complete a 25x rollover, deposit plus bonus, within 4 weeks. It's a sticky bonus so that bonus money is not your money although you can use it to bet. It's not a good sign for them to hide this fact. When they were asked in their thread, they just said the rules were listed on their site. Regarding 100% First Deposit Bonus for casino and sportsbook, player needs to purchase a minimum of 20 in the account currency and wager 25 times the amount of deposit and bonus before making any withdrawals.
* Regarding Free 20 Bonus, Free Spins or any other Free Money voucher for Casinoco.com, player needs to wager 25 times the amount of the bonus before making any withdrawals, unless otherwise stated in the bonus terms. Player will also need to provide a scanned copy of photo ID, which would have to be sent upon request. In the case of non-deposit bonuses, coupons or vouchers, a minimum deposit of 20 in the account currency must be deposited before a withdrawal can be made. This is to ensure that the account holder is a real person and that the bonus is not being abused.
* Bonus funds may not be withdrawn. When a withdrawal is processed, any bonus amount used in the generation of the withdrawal will be removed prior to processing.
* Bonuses last for a maximum 4 week period from the time it is added. All funds must be used within this time - to a point where the account balance reaches zero, either through play or a successful withdrawal - otherwise all winnings will be forfeited and the bonus will be removed; leaving the initial deposit in the account less any used funds. Contacted Casinoco and the 4 weeks applies to the casino. They are more lax with sports bettors. |
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"A" rated books
Anonibet (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)
"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)
"C" rated books
BetVIP C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
Fairlay C- (2013)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)
"D" rated books
BTCBook D+(2014)
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)
"F" rated books
Asianconnect F
BetCas F
Coindrafts (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014)
Bitbm F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
NR
1player
7Bit
altbetfair
Betabit
Betbanks
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Casinoco
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
finalstake
Flutterclub
Oddschange (2015)
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
tdsports
xbet.io
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
i've been wondering why i dont see directbet in any of these rating? they have been established for 1 year + anyway  It's really tough to rank them since some think they are the best and others the worst. Margins and having "negotiate" up for many live bets in American markets turn some away. On a childish front by both parties, DirectBet spammed our thread, used ghost accounts and criticized competing books. We asked them not to do it with a repercussion of being taken off the rating's guide. They continued the spam forcing us to close the original thread and make this one self moderated. We'll get them back up there some day. |
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House edge maters only if you are frequent bettor.
Not really it matters for every single roll. With 1% edge, you have 1% extra chance of losing than with 0% house edge. For instance, you make a below 49.5 roll and hit 49.9.. I think what he is saying that you have a better chance of winning with less trials. You can play with this to see why http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx |
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Even though roulette isn't beatable, a professional gambler may be playing roulette for fun with his friends. If Black came up 10 times in a row, an amateur would play Red the next time. A professional would play Black thinking that there may be something wrong with the wheel. This isn't true for all. |
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