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2361  Economy / Economics / Re: Maybe governments can stop bitcoin after all on: December 05, 2017, 12:43:39 PM
definately this should be taken into consideration because they litrally are pissed of seeing the huge inflow and outflow of cash through non banking systems  and they want to control all these things, so who knows... one day governments can ban all the cash entering into the banking systems through bitcoins
No, You really need to get your facts straight regarding this. Governments are not controlling digital currencies in any way especially bitcoin. Bitcoin is totally decentralized and governments are working day and night to get some good control over this currency to regulate it in their states.

This is the reason many countries have not yet declared bitcoin legal officially. Governments can control only that currency which they have made.
2362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin or Ethereum on: December 05, 2017, 12:14:43 PM
Ethereum is good, and bitcoin is better. But for now it is more complicated and expensive obtain bitcoin.
Lol, At least someone is there to explain the difference between two precisely. I have the very same opinion regarding bitcoin and eth, eth is doing great among altcoins whereas bitcoin is the king of all digital currencies. No other crypto currency can dare competing with bitcoin because of its largest market. Bitcoin is as we all know the master of crypto currencies and eth is its prime minister, why to go after minister when president is available?
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2364  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin be effectively used to curb corruption? on: December 02, 2017, 06:08:09 AM
As described in the article, depending on the intention of the policymaker, the government will actually be helped by the existence   blockchain technology of bitcoin, but whether they want all their financial transactions to be seen by everyone. It must be remembered that government is formed by politics. And with the existence of politics, such technology may not be applied because of the interests of a group.
Man, that’s a big lie I don’t see any possible way that bitcoin can help curb corruption, not by how it is made. Users of Bitcoin are always anonymous, and transactions are carried out everyday and you don’t know who or the location of the people carrying out the location, they are completely anonymous. This is easy for criminals to carry out their plans without anyone knowing who they are and where they are from.


It is possible way that bitcoin help curb corruption not by how it is made and bitcoin is a solution to cut corruption from the world as this helps to eradicate identify theft and online banking process.
If we use better methods to identify the theft reports in business running in any country of the world, bitcoin can help us to find it with much accuracy and authenticity. But for that we have to legalize bitcoin and it should be legal currency of any country.

It is much secure and safe and transparent currency too. It can identify the misconception of financial loss at any moment with fine results.
2365  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN milestone 10000$. Continue to rise or not??? on: December 02, 2017, 05:37:54 AM
BTC BITCOIN milestone 10000$.  Continue to rise or not???
It will surely rise more as more and more people are taking interest in this and looking forward to invest in BTC by looking at its price and its bright future. BTC has reached the milestone of $10000 in this year which is very high than the predicted value of the year.

Some people also think that it could be a BTC bubble and it will fall in an instance but its not true and this an be understood by looking at BTC history and its every increasing demand. Hence its best time to invest in BTC and it will surely keep on rising
2366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: December 01, 2017, 06:07:16 AM
I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.
Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.


If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.
2367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people still play dice? on: December 01, 2017, 05:32:21 AM
For me they played dice because eeven though they know that there's a house edge but atleast they can still earn from it because they can really have some profits if their time or luck will come
Well that is the case with all of the Gambling games. If someone is lucky then regardless of what he is going to play, he will win. As slot and roulette are also luck dependent and having luck lady on one’s side is all that is needed in such games. Everyone has his own taste.

People who play dice definitely like this game or they are good at playing this according to themselves. Plus I think it is much fun to play time dice than any of its kind.
2368  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: November 30, 2017, 06:56:48 AM
in 10 years when 1btc = 1mln... joke! I will never sell  Grin Grin Grin
Holding the bitcoins and that too for such a huge period of time is really a very good option. I myself think of holding of bitcoin as the best thing to do. I personally do not sell my bitcoins most of the time no matter how much profit I’m getting in return.

It is because of the reason that I know this thing that there is nothing more profitable than that of holding. I only sell at the time of need.
I think you are right about the price of bitcoins. I think that the right time to sell is never. One should consider the selling of cryptocurrencies as a permanent loss at his side .I do not believe in the price fluctuation stress and  many other factors that provoke a sense of selling time in the owner. One should keep hold of his currency that could result in him becoming a billionaire at the end.

I don't think that people will never sell their coins as and even if you will never sell then how you gonna become billionaire and even at that time you will think of holding it to sell when you become multi billionaire and holding it too long is very risky as no one knows what will be the scenario in future so its always good to sell it at higher profits and buy it back at the dip.
Everyone should set some target with bitcoin in order to make sure that they are going in loss or profit with bitcoin. Moreover this will help them to sell of their coin at right time.

Those people who are holding bitcoin with blank minds often don’t sell off bitcoin when the prices are damn high. In the way they miss the chance of enjoying huge profits with bitcoin. Setting a goal is essential for achieving it.
2369  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to overcome the fear of holding? on: November 30, 2017, 06:27:22 AM
I've always been one who sells to earlier, either to minimize my losses or to realize my earnings ASAP and leave. I've seen in most of my investments, if not all that if I would've just left the coins there they would've been worth 10-50x what I put in before. This is upsetting as a person and trader, as I see how much money I'm missing out on.

How do you traders do it, hold and hold and hold. Waiting around for more and more money?
The one way is loosing the fear of losing your money and just relax and relieve stress out of your mind by not listening to all the negative news about your investment.The other way is analyze that what changes are going to happen in market that is market favours you or not and then make decisions instead of exiting the situation without dealing with it.Be patient and hold your atleast 30-40%  investment for long term and do regular trading out of others.Sometime the situation is of pumping and dumping and we loose our coins so you need to be a keen observer if you don't want to loose.But with experience you can do it so don't worry about all that just be patient in crypto market and get profits.
Haha, Yes this is human nature that we cannot resist temptations and that too when it is in the form of big money but for those who want to have bigger money as a profit, they easily overcome these temporary temptations. Bitcoin is the one which often increases in value too much and that is the toughest time for those who are suing bitcoin as long term investment to avoid selling off bitcoin for enjoying profit.
2370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 30, 2017, 06:02:11 AM
Most people Gamble for profit only! here I'm not an exceptional to this Wink
if i have enough money to an luxury life i will quit gambling though Wink
yeah getting money wouldn't be a big deal anymore when you have a lot of it already , some people might continue the habit of gambling as they feel comfortable with it / getting a real entertainment there and of course because of gambling addiction itself. but it would easier to leave gambling when you have power or money enough to support it right?
Well that is not the case with most of the gamblers. I have seen majority trying to earn money by placing bets. If a rich guy is gambling then the most common reason is entertainment or he is trying to find relief in it. That is a rare case.

Fun seeking gamblers are in lesser amount than profit seeking gamblers but the right way to play this game is for the fun sake only or otherwise the results can be fatal.

2371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: November 30, 2017, 05:33:09 AM
Mathematics is very useful in our everyday life. My teacher told us that if we want to get rich, we must first be financially intelligent. He also told us that if we are sad, all we can do is reach for a calculator and compute for the amount of money we might own in the future.

Math is helpful in gambling because you can learn about the probabilities and chances that is happening in gambling. Gambling is always a risk because there are gambles that the lose chances are higher than the chances of winning.
I like the example of your teacher. However, dreaming without commitment is not sufficient enough to reach your goal and be rich. For me, I do not need math to gamble and it does not help me to win. All I need and require is a logical mind and a mind of prediction.

It is a fact that math is logic, but my logic is different. I use logic based on common sense and other different things that allow me to predict and win without attempting to calculate. 
I don't think that math or anything can help a gambler to win his bets. In random games, we cannot make accurate predictions and Gambling is a random game. If not all then most of the games that are played in casinos are pure luck.

For examples, roulette dice and slot are unpredictable. We can find the probability of an outcome and nothing else can be calculated, not with a good accuracy rate.
2372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When BTC crashes, which Alt will hold its fiat value? on: November 30, 2017, 05:01:49 AM
ETH and WAVES could rise up someday, the reason why some alt coins are correlated with the dump and rise of bitcoin is because of the investors keep investing on both coins with the same amount of money, and we all did that at least once. Anyway, I don't see tether becoming a big things, they already disappointed  people on their hacking  incident ( though i don't believed that they are hacked or who knows).
Bitcoin is the benchmark for all altcoins and no alternative coin can take its place or even come closer to it in any aspect. I do like Ethereum and waves. Not only these two but I think Monero, Litecoin, neo, Omisego and ripple are also good choices.

However, none of them can match bitcoin. Nobody knows the exact future but if we look at the past performance of bitcoin and its present static, we can make a prediction about its future. Most probably, it won’t crash.
2373  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Restaurants accepting bitcoin! on: November 29, 2017, 08:11:06 AM
As far as i know theres no restaurant yet to accept Bitcoin as payment in our country and i wish that in the future there will be one or more to open
At the very present moment, there is no such restaurant in my country which is giving this facility to their customers to come and pay their bills in the form of bitcoin. However, there are few restaurants in USA which have started accepting bitcoin from the people who are willing to pay their bills in the form of bitcoin. This is really an encouraging thing and this will bring more name to bitcoin.
2374  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bubble on: November 29, 2017, 07:35:19 AM
Bitcoin is a future technology so no wonder why its value is increasing so rapidly. In my opinion, we haven't reached the real value of Bitcoin yet. People are slowly being convinced that cryptocurrencies may replace fiat in the future. Cryptocurrencies have a lot of advantages such as ease of use, security, fixed supply (not in every case) etc. Despite all these facts, nobody can tell the final price of Bitcoin.
Besides this, I think the real reason behind bitcoin progress is the increasing demand and limited supply which has turned into a very limited rather a scarce supply now. Crypto currencies are the future of money and bitcoin is going to rule that world.

It will be the most expensive asset and still is. No other digital coins has the ability to take its place and yes you are right we yet have to see the real price of Bitcoin.
2375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: November 29, 2017, 07:07:09 AM
Do you need pointers and warnings?DONT PLAY GAMBLING by then you will prevent losing or winning.you have stated that you loss 60 usd and still u wanna play.how much loses do you need to realize that in gambling is mor eof losing than winning even.why not try to invest on trading than gambles your funds.but its your discretion to play or not anyway its your funds not ours

Not all of the people think the same way that you think, we have different decisions of life even though there is a lot of people who already gave him an advice, he is still the one who will help himself, he is the one who will decide what to do next, but it just annoying because these kind of people are asking help but they didn't apply it that is why they keep on losing all over and over again.
Whatever happens in your life is just because of you, for you. Your re solely responsible for whatever you’re re-experiencing in your life whether they are losses or wins. People are there to advise you but again, it is you why is going to decide to whom you should listen and who is worth ignoring. I am really not in favor of asking everyone for help and advice because not all people are your well-wishers.
You remind me of a quote. It was that always think before trusting anyone because the Demon was also an angel once and everyone who is chasing you is not your fan. I am not against asking others for advice but one must listen to the voice of his own heart than following others blindly. This is the way to get the most out of this mysterious life and yes no one is responsible for the actions of others.
2376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: November 29, 2017, 06:34:15 AM
I admit that sometimes I forget to set limits on myself but usually I manage sufficiently my betting games for





Yes i have i stop everytime 1 hour with 5 loses in a row that is my gambling strategy because you can see what is happening in gambling site here is you do straight time they always lose i dont know why but is what i see so i feel good if i do that because sometime i win.Try my strategy you  can what i do i bet 5 then i stop win or lose
So that's your limit if you lose for an hour 5 times straight in a row? And if you got 4 streak for an hour, you will extend it for another hour and will be back to 0 loss? Since you gave 1 hour allowance for it.
I know someone with the same strategy like this, he said that it is somehow effective, everytime he wins he stopped playing and will resume in the next days instead of hours. Does it really work? Because I didn't try it.
It might work for a particular person or that guy who is using this strategy it can work different for different people. It also depends on the gambling site or Casino that someone is going to. Logically speaking I think this trick works 70% of the time or at least above 50% because the house tries to make customers happy by making him winner for few shots.

Once he gets addicted, it will start getting back money but if someone stops and comes back after few days the house will do the same.
2377  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: November 29, 2017, 06:04:25 AM
I am thinking .. to put all my money in bitcoin what do you think? is it a good way to grow my money? or it is risky or.. ?

It is risky and you have to be very carefull
It is wise to invest in an amount that you ready to loose.

Dont put them in Bitcoin,
There are other, split it

Welcome

I guess, that is right, split your saving into other investment. Putting your investment in one place is too risky. To be more safe, done it with 50% or less.
Placing all of the funds in the form of bitcoins is as if you are making the progress in the field of earning quite a stagnant thing. I usually use all of my funds in the form of some business so as to increase the capitals and then feel quite safer to use half of the earned money again in the process and the rest to be saved up besides in the form of bitcoins. This is the best way to ensure both the increment as well as the safety of your private funds.
Why don’t you want to invest into bitcoin right now when it is in the growing stage? Later on, we all know that bitcoin is going to be near 20,000 dollars and above in 2018 and that is not a price which everyone can afford easily.

This is the prefect time for you to get your share in bitcoin if you really have plans of getting involved with bitcoin later on. There are so many methods of gaining information about bitcoin.
2378  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it good time to buy. on: November 28, 2017, 11:18:40 AM
It is only good time to buy bitcoin if you are planning to hold it for at least half a year orso otherwise it's not worth it, there is no short term gain.
That’s so true. Bitcoin is the only currency which is worth buying no matter what the time or amount is because just by simply holding it in your wallet, you are going to make big amount in few months. For short term profits, you should better do trading with altcoins but if you want something big then patience is the only key to get it and that’s what bitcoin simply demands from you.
2379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: November 25, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
Math could help you win a gamble in a way with the use of probability to predict your roll but it also depends on your luck or your toss of your dice.
It basically has a little impact on your results but not completely. You must not be making progress in gambling until you are not luck on that one day. Things can be on your side if you have excellent mathematics and you are throughout going on those probability and statistics. But at the end, again, it all comes to luck. If you are lucky best results be there to welcome you and vice versa.
2380  Economy / Economics / Re: Electronic Money vs. Physical Money on: November 23, 2017, 01:33:35 PM
Hi guys, I just want to know your views and opinion about the difference in Electronic Money (Bitcoin and others) and the Physical Money. Many people now a days are still confuse about the existence of the Bitcoin and how it differ from our Physical Money that we are using to buy necessity. I hope we could share and learn from each other.  Wink Smiley
Electronic money is not famous to most of the people since not all people are exposed to technologies like computers. You can only access those electronic money if you have at least a device and an internet connection. So electronic money, not like physical money, can only be accessed with those people who have enough knowledge to it because sometimes, it can be complicated.
Yes both have merits and demerits the physical shape, common use, old and more trusted are the clear merits of physical money while its demits are the limited boundaries, theft, damage by fire, water etc are also demerits of it while crypto are easy, convenient and fast way of transaction but lack of the physical shape, existence of hackers are the major demerits of digital currencies.
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