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241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Feds kill Megaupload... are you buying Namecoins yet? on: January 22, 2012, 04:39:41 AM
The interesting part is that megaupload was able to make so much money selling access to pirated IP while the IP holders claim to be losing money left and right. They refuse to adapt their business model and instead fall back on lobbying and lawsuits.

They made hardly any money from premium accounts they made 700 million/yr from feeding you forced ads everytime you clicked to watch something.
242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 22, 2012, 04:36:14 AM
Bitcoin is not at all a competitor to paypal because it doesn't offer chargebacks. Paypal is all about buyer safety, same with credit cards. Bitcoin is maybe a competitor to Western Union/MoneyGram/Ukash/PSC

Most people who use paypal, or credit cards for that matter, don't need the consumer protection services.  Bitcoin is, most certainly, a real threat to both these business models.

They might not always need to use it but it's still there should something go wrong and that's the reason they are the #1 online payment methods in the world. If it was so unimportant these companies would ditch buyer protection but of course they never will that would be suicide for them.

Paypal is growing (unfortunately) they just put out press releases on how huge their international traffic is getting. http://www.internetretailing.net/2012/01/paypals-international-business-overtakes-its-home-market-for-the-first-time/

That said bitcoins are perfect for countries like India/Pak where paypal is banned. If you want to promote bitcoin concentrate on those countries merchants there would love a decentralized money system their corrupt governments can't get at that has no rules

243  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Klooch.com Buy BTC with credit card on: January 22, 2012, 03:59:02 AM
Site is already dead. There's a Liberty Reserve exchanger in Canada that originally did something similar to this, then they learned carders can easily make up scans of any stolen cards front+back and so after being ripped of thousands of dollars changed it so now you have to print out a card authorization form and take it to your bank, have them sign it and fax from the bank. Then they phone the bank to confirm details, but most banks won't release info to them so 50/50 chance you can't use cards on the site.They also do voice authorization robocalls and you have to be listed in a phone book somewhere. They also charge 23%

No easy way to do credit cards. Unless you live in CIS and can use LiqPay to process transactions for you up to $100 max. Then guaranteed no chargebacks although LiqPay may kick you off for selling any kinds of digital currency since they signed agreements with WMZ and Ukash
244  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Feds kill Megaupload... are you buying Namecoins yet? on: January 22, 2012, 03:36:36 AM
There are plenty of megavideo clones the US didn't go after with the exact same biz model. The only reason they were able to extradite Kim dotcom and his cronies is because they were stupid enough to use US hosting where the Feds could get access to their internal emails and get all the evidence they needed to launch an extradition request.

245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 22, 2012, 03:28:44 AM
Bitcoin is not at all a competitor to paypal because it doesn't offer chargebacks. Paypal is all about buyer safety, same with credit cards. Bitcoin is maybe a competitor to Western Union/MoneyGram/Ukash/PSC
246  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: [ANN] Changes to AML Policies - Mt.Gox on: January 22, 2012, 03:06:15 AM
Perfect Money doesn't require this and they move way more $$$ than MtGox. Problem is Gox does business in the US so therefore will get the screws tighter and tighter until every transaction must be reported to the IRS and fingerprints/eye scans/DNA lol.

There's a reason all the digital e-currencies fled the US, and why there are no more exchangers there. Unless you want to end up like the founders of egold register your BTC trading corps offshore like Cgold/Pecunix and let exchangers handle all the KYC/AML nonsense to pay into your system and withdraw through voucher codes.

All the more reason to use off the record trading user 2 user and avoid big exchanges
247  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any BTC to LE in Egypt ? on: January 22, 2012, 02:47:54 AM
What's LE? LR??
I know an LR exchanger in Egypt that does cashU/ukash/psc/lr
248  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What happened to Tradehill? on: January 22, 2012, 02:36:57 AM
I don't think any exchange should have their own bank accounts.

Use the LR/Pecunix model. Exchangers (bitinstant) do the nasty work of collecting funds from all over the place and pay into your system. Then an exchange is only ever receiving B2B payments from a few sources no getting thousands of payments from all over the world. When you want to withdraw funds you go back to that exchanger and are paid out locally. Because you're just moving around credits you don't have to license yourself, or worry about KYC or anything. Exchangers handle all that for you.

249  Economy / Lending / [closed]70BTC loan, Repays 85 BTC Feb 17 on: January 21, 2012, 09:33:18 PM
**EDIT found lender, thanks to all who PM'd I'll remember you next time Smiley










250  Economy / Lending / Re: IBB 5 BTC loan on: January 21, 2012, 02:32:51 AM
Transaction ID:
8a2c1d61b16b074041cd6cc56f93659d9c2383995f0d1970def3fa11735a1b5d

thanks Smiley
251  Other / Off-topic / Re: Megaupload takedown is pure EVIL on: January 20, 2012, 01:22:15 AM
4 dudes in new zealand facing 55yrs lol. We still have divxstage.eu gorillavid sockshare videobb and about a thousand other sites.

Note 2 future piracy empires set up in a non extradition country like the ukraine or brazil
252  Economy / Lending / Re: IBB 5 BTC loan on: January 19, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
Ready to payback early Smiley
What address do you want it to?

thx
253  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Needed - Reliable Webmoney\WMZ exchanger on: January 19, 2012, 05:30:51 AM
I pay for russian hosting by loading btc-e.com with bitcoins, then withdraw right to the hoster's wallet ID they give me in WMZ. Also thanks for this other service, need more WMZ proxies
254  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Looking for a way to get BTC with a CC on: January 19, 2012, 05:28:50 AM
Try btc-e.com though i have no idea what the limit is. If it goes through LiqPay then limit is ~$140
Keep doing transaction after transaction til it reaches $1500? :S
255  Other / Off-topic / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto: The Next 24 Hours on: January 16, 2012, 07:34:05 AM
Satoshi is clearly from the future and returned after starting BTC to cash out his eleventy billion coins into quatloos. Or it's Gavin + everybody else in early BTC dev
256  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 16, 2012, 07:18:02 AM
lol DecodeaCon

satoshi is assange
257  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Buying Bitcoins with a international credit card, how? on: January 16, 2012, 02:01:10 AM
Try btc-e Russian exchanger
Select add US funds, choose 'Interkassa' and try your card through LiqPay. If your phone # and card country matches (both in Brazil) then you're good to go.

Or yeah.. Ok Pay
258  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gavin A. talk with the CIA on: January 16, 2012, 01:36:39 AM
At least there were other payment networks there so it wasn't just a summoning to come explain Bitcoin in front of a bunch of spooks. CIA is probably more interested in laundering money to their agents then they are shutting it down. Now if he had to go explain it to the secret service that would be a different matter. I wouldn't show up to that (Hi here's your handcuffs come with us)
259  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gavin A. talk with the CIA on: January 16, 2012, 01:31:27 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.msg251755#msg251755
260  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ebay-like websites with Bitcoin: Why haven't they taken off? on: January 15, 2012, 11:48:57 PM
In an effort to promote our auction site we are currently running a promotion where users can earn up to 10 free bitcoins:

**Top Seller**
Whoever auctions off the most products on MokiMarket by January 31, 2012 at midnight will receive 5 bitcoins. Posting auctions is free and can be physical or virtual goods. Must mark all won items as shipped by deadline and maintain a positive feedback rating.

**Top Bidder**
Whoever wins the most products on MokiMarket by January 31, 2012 at midnight will receive 5 bitcoins. All items must be paid for by deadline.

Our site has a feedback rating system to weed out reputable sellers, we have been around for almost 4 months with very minor issues. Check us out.


I like this site but the feedback model is completely outdated and risky to yourself. What if I leave negative feedback and claim the guy scammed me. Ebay had to get rid of 'negative feedback' because of legal threats. The seller can launch legal action against you with a few lawyer forms from some fly by night Florida internet lawyer and sue you for defamation of character for the negative feedback.

This is what I mean by a whole new model needs to be though up. Right now your site is doing fine but if you get larger and start getting bigger sellers they will do whatever they can to scam their bad feedback away through lawyers. Just my $0.02
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