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241  Economy / Reputation / Re: Smoothie's attacks the Litecoin Foundation. on: October 18, 2013, 04:50:33 AM
Shill eh? Yeah I made a bad investment with Pirate. I paid a huge price for that. I also covered all of my debts and did not run away.

Shill for Garr? lol. Just cuz I am open about where I place my BTC does not mean you should do it too. I have never told anyone to invest in Garr. Yeah, I might lose everything I invested with him but that is my risk, not yours.

Also I had left smoothie alone for half a year. He jumped in on a different thread and started posting off topic stuff. To get to shut up in that thread I made this one. I really wish he would just put me on ignore, would be better for the whole community.

Thanks.

It is a start, but at least you are learning.

I have been caught up in just about every scam out there. It sucks hard trust me.

Eh, some people read more than others. Hell, some people even gamble better than others.

You and smoothie both seem to love Litecoin. Maybe you can see a marriage counselor or divorce lawyer together?
242  Economy / Reputation / Re: Smoothie's attacks the Litecoin Foundation. on: October 18, 2013, 04:36:33 AM
Shill eh? Yeah I made a bad investment with Pirate. I paid a huge price for that. I also covered all of my debts and did not run away.

Shill for Garr? lol. Just cuz I am open about where I place my BTC does not mean you should do it too. I have never told anyone to invest in Garr. Yeah, I might lose everything I invested with him but that is my risk, not yours.

Also I had left smoothie alone for half a year. He jumped in on a different thread and started posting off topic stuff. To get to shut up in that thread I made this one. I really wish he would just put me on ignore, would be better for the whole community.

Thanks.

It is a start, but at least you are learning.
243  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Coinabul order from August still non filled. No response from them. on: October 18, 2013, 04:06:09 AM
oh man... best of luck mate. next time do a google search before sending btc to known scammers Sad

People having been making scam claims on coinabul a long time. All my previous orders were filled. I'm not sure what there up to.

That #bitcoin-otc still allows coingenutity/Jay Shore/whatever his real name is Op/mod powers totally befuddles me.
244  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hi! I'm a graduate student studying the bitcoin community. on: October 18, 2013, 04:02:53 AM
I can't wait to see who is coming next. 

The last time someone said that, Eternal September happened.

Hm, I wonder what the Eternal September would look like for bitcoin.  A lot of people coming into forums and asking for help getting started with bitcoin?

Already happened.
245  Economy / Reputation / Re: Smoothie's attacks the Litecoin Foundation. on: October 18, 2013, 04:00:58 AM
You posted your attack in a thread and you knew it was off topic. I took the time and responded to you in the correct place, a new thread.

You are welcome.

Hardly an "attack" as you claim.

You do like to play the victim often, huh?

It's actually amusing that you try to do that as often as you do. It makes me laugh, honestly.  Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119490.0

I'm going to guess this was also not a personal attack? A whole thread of personal attacks? I guess I am just playing the victim  Roll Eyes

Keep it up, you are one class act.

You two are still playing footsies?

On one hand there is smoothie who has been a troll at times to understate things. On the other there is Goat who shilled for Pirateat40 and continues to shill for Garr, the would be auction scammer.

I care little for litcoins or foundations. Reading this though smoothie has merely been a pain in people's asses. on the other hand Goat has shilled for scams. May the wisdom, or lack thereof of the crowd pick a weiner.
246  Economy / Reputation / Re: johnniewalker on: October 18, 2013, 03:58:14 AM
Jw is a good lad.

We've been working together a little while and I enjoy chatting with him  Grin
Thanks Dob-he's an awesome guy too
and thank you, gravitate

For some reason trolls loved having fun with me. If anyone has any question about any dealing I've done, feel free to ask and I'll answer with 100% truth.

It's been a few months, but my business with johniewalker was good.
247  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TEMP: Investigation into scotaloo on: October 17, 2013, 07:32:39 AM

This isn't directed to you or team scotaloo, but more to people in general.

Honestly I have no idea if this is true or false. In the Bitcoin space a lot of people's dox are held by a lot of other people. Bringing yourself into the Bitcoin space means exposing yourself into a lot of counterparty risks of the sort you wouldn't have conceived of until it is too late.

Forums as a rule tend to fill themselves with lolcows. Generally it is boring business unless it does something like enrich the LabCoin scammers who were identified as a probable scam months before "momentum trades" and full frontal idiots latched onto them. As problematic as scotaloo was in particular and phishers, skiddies, and scammers are in general the larger problem isn't in bitcoin, but in idiots who think they can unprotected and without reading and understanding risk.

I don't want to sound too sympathetic to scotaloo or team scotaloo, but in most scams, especially the big ones like Pirateat40 and LabCoin, the scam happens less because there is a bad buy scammer than because people don't take the time to read how these scams have happened before. I'll probably have even less sympathy for the people who get burned when mcxnow goes bust than the people who fell for scotaloo or furrycoat.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303795.msg3256239#msg3256239 is the wrong attitude for bitcoin if you want to keep it. Scammers are like tornadoes, earthquakes, flood or fire. They exist, just like any natural thing. The wrong course of action is to assume nature will politely avoid you. The right course of action is to harden yourself for nature's indifference to your snowflakeness.

Many thanks for this testimony, Atruk. I'd still would like to hear more, but I'm starting to wonder about scotaloo team agenda, looks a bit more complex than just "gimme dat monies".

They've always struck me as more troll than anything else. Maybe they just want to scam bigger money though. It is hard to say.

I mean Something Awful is full of idiots playing smarter than they are while 4chan is full of relatively smarter people playing dumber. That though is a generalization. The internet is only ever truly simple when simple people are looking at it.

Not knowing or caring enough about scotaloo to look deep their actions that I know of seem to follow patterns more endemic to some classical forms of trolling than scamming as such. Where before someone would normally be limited to harvesting tears and butthurt, bitcoin seems to have allowed them to harvest tears, butthurt, and money.

Still, you can't assume that these things won't happen. Generally social engineering is a much cheaper way to defeat cryptography than rubber hoses, five dollar wrenches and such things.
248  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TEMP: Investigation into scotaloo on: October 16, 2013, 08:47:50 AM
Most of the people who scotaloo scammed were refunded, Atruk who just posted on this thread can confirm that as he was one such person.

I can confirm this much. I'm rather but not entirely resistant to the butthurt so I didn't do much more than post polite request for a refund whenever I saw a scotaloo post. Eventually I got the BTC0.04 back from a trade with a CoinChat account Scotaloo had phished. I didn't care to do much more, because getting butthurt over BTC0.04 wasn't worth it.

I never escalated because first, negotiating with terrorists makes poor policy, and second because I was honestly more pissed at the first dude for getting phished. Asshole presented himself as some sort of dev and months later he still struggles running some BTC faucet. At that time that screen name begging to trade $5 in paypal for BTC didn't seem too out of character and as time goes on it would seem even less out of character, but I'd make him GPG a contract really quick before entertaining the idea of a trade with him.

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It's over man, sorry you got fucked over and didn't hit the cash but it's your own fault for snitching and for being stupid. You caused a lot of problems just because you wanted to buy a fucking alienware laptop. If you had not snitched and waited you could've bought 10 of them. TradeFortress has your dox btw so there's that too, you really shouldn't be scamming especially when you're so obvious.

We've been 'data mined' as you call it by pretty much everyone and the results they have come up with are pretty hilarious. When it comes to computers and the internet, evidence is very easy to destroy, modify and create. I'm hoping one of them posts our 'dox' someday, thats a thread I will come back to read!    No wonder so many scammers run wild here - I suspect 80% of the dox posted on bitcointalk are not the actual scammers, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Ross Ulbricht has been framed and he was just someone who had something to hide and had nothing to do with silk road at all - the kind of evidence the feds found is the exact kind of evidence I would've planted as a safe guard if I was DPR.

No point contacting me there ain't nothing I can do for you. We sold all the accounts that were not banned months ago. Now run along to your next username or fuck off please. I don't know what you expected us to do for you - but we're not doing shit.

This isn't directed to you or team scotaloo, but more to people in general.

Honestly I have no idea if this is true or false. In the Bitcoin space a lot of people's dox are held by a lot of other people. Bringing yourself into the Bitcoin space means exposing yourself into a lot of counterparty risks of the sort you wouldn't have conceived of until it is too late.

Forums as a rule tend to fill themselves with lolcows. Generally it is boring business unless it does something like enrich the LabCoin scammers who were identified as a probable scam months before "momentum trades" and full frontal idiots latched onto them. As problematic as scotaloo was in particular and phishers, skiddies, and scammers are in general the larger problem isn't in bitcoin, but in idiots who think they can unprotected and without reading and understanding risk.

I don't want to sound too sympathetic to scotaloo or team scotaloo, but in most scams, especially the big ones like Pirateat40 and LabCoin, the scam happens less because there is a bad buy scammer than because people don't take the time to read how these scams have happened before. I'll probably have even less sympathy for the people who get burned when mcxnow goes bust than the people who fell for scotaloo or furrycoat.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303795.msg3256239#msg3256239 is the wrong attitude for bitcoin if you want to keep it. Scammers are like tornadoes, earthquakes, flood or fire. They exist, just like any natural thing. The wrong course of action is to assume nature will politely avoid you. The right course of action is to harden yourself for nature's indifference to your snowflakeness.
249  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TEMP: Investigation into scotaloo on: October 16, 2013, 05:33:33 AM
What the fuck is going on here? 

Got dox, will travel?  Roll Eyes Huh

Seems like it.
250  Economy / Services / Re: Fast Growing Bitcoin Company Now Hiring on: October 16, 2013, 12:22:38 AM
Definately, this guy is basically a paid shill.

I don't think that's the problem. I think the problem lies more in that bitcoin, generally is too important for centralized vetting services. Nothing beats a solid, personalized WOT.
251  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Public Discussion - escrow dispute - greendots & Redblue on: October 11, 2013, 07:55:05 PM
I'll post the full original contract with my gpg signature here if anyone requests it.

May as well post the GPG signed contract. It's kind of the thing that people are being held to.
252  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [bitcoind] [brainwallet.org] Verify message, different results for same message on: October 11, 2013, 07:26:24 AM
A user in #bitcoin-assets mentioned that the message and signature he generated resolves to another address on brainwallet.org as it was intended to. I tried to pin down the problem and this is what I found out:

A message with the very special char ’ + more than 249 other (normal) chars resolves to different Bitcoin addresses when bitcoind and brainwallet.org is used.

1. ’ + 249 other chars:

Message:

Code:
’XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Signature generated by brainwallet.org:

Code:
HAeEUZHzDgDOZSLakU0TahyaZX6Wb5ViMUJByFqOrVHPE1lNK8XTu3FPMYDAP7erqf7IuHECBKIB3h5ymVfKHjA=

brainwallet.org output:

Code:
Verified to: 17mDAmveV5wBwxajBsY7g1trbMW1DVWcgL

bitcoind "verify message" for 17mDAmveV5wBwxajBsY7g1trbMW1DVWcgL:

Code:
Message verfied.

2. ’ + 250 other chars:

Code:
’XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Signature generated by brainwallet.org:

Code:
HBHMfRLvk0aMj4B9mAY5RRJcweTaYh1q/74/rh3nzv36ytjhgOGumBJwvi0KTv7XhzZdr+wQ05egf05dN3mo5O8=

brainwallet.org output:

Code:
Verified to: 17mDAmveV5wBwxajBsY7g1trbMW1DVWcgL

bitcoind "verify message" for 17mDAmveV5wBwxajBsY7g1trbMW1DVWcgL:

Code:
Message verification failed.

bitcoind "verify message" for 1Cza7rVEy928uJjC5p2oBZAKgTr2c2tFuy:

Code:
Message verified.


While ’ seems to be a very special character, it's a strange behaviour which I can't explain.

I'm investigating this behavior I reported earlier further. I'm doing further investigation which I probably lack the technical expertise to do right. I'm also digging through more forum threads et al.

I am still considering the bitcoin address 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4 invalid for message signing purposes into the future. This is bitcoin and not taking the measure of refuting the address's right to sign messages on my behalf would be the wrong step. Handling Bitcoin properly necessitates some measure of paranoia.

It looks like the little endian big endian issues mentioned here might be at play.
253  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Playing chess online for money/bitcoins is illegal? on: October 10, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
IS there any place to play chess betting Bitcoins? If so, whoever can beat crazy bishop can probably make a lot of money. Using that to choose your moves seems like something every Bitcoiner would do.

More likely you'd have to beat Rybka, Fritz, or whatever software your opponent is using to play against you.

Only crazy bishop is open source, and french too, so every bitcoiner will use it over all others.

Fruit, RobboLito, Igorrit, IvanHoe, FireBird and Fire and a number of other engines are open source as well. I'm not familiar with Crazy Bishop. In competitions where money is involved it is safest to assume people are going to be cheating. The people cheating are also probably going to at some point invest in the best tools for cheating... This sort of cheating arms race is also why such a site would be unlikely to draw any significant coin.

Any significant bitcoin to be awarded for chess prowess is going to be awarded as it always has been with dollars, through real life tournaments and matches.
254  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Playing chess online for money/bitcoins is illegal? on: October 09, 2013, 10:28:16 PM
IS there any place to play chess betting Bitcoins? If so, whoever can beat crazy bishop can probably make a lot of money. Using that to choose your moves seems like something every Bitcoiner would do.

More likely you'd have to beat Rybka, Fritz, or whatever software your opponent is using to play against you.
255  Economy / Securities / Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1? on: October 09, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
MPEx.

Anything but...

My eyes bleed if I look at the interface for more then 2sec.


You hate it. Mircea probably hates it.

The fact is though, the only Bitcoin Securities exchange that is going to let Americans on in the future is operated by a dude who isn't particularly fond with 'Murica. If you hadn't noticed that Satoshi character tried to bake subversive deep enough into Bitcoin that he had to leave. The only securities guy confident enough to make not leaving a part of his business model is MP. If you want to trade bitcoin securities you might be stuck with him.
256  Economy / Securities / Re: [SolarWind , A Bitcoin Mining Company] 100TH/s Mining Farm - Official Thread on: October 07, 2013, 11:01:27 PM
I believe on your forum there was a post titled "dafuq has the nerve for this!"

In the spirit of sharing, education, and "FREE PUBLICITY" I would like to offer a response to the inquiry posed:

Re: dafuq has the nerve for this!

You all have a pleasant day.

Dr. Jekyll(Artuk), meet Mr. Hyde(MPOE-PR)

 How many other alts do you use?

I chat and blog as BingoBoingo, and use the forum as Atruk because I didn't come up with the BingoBoingo name yet (I originally picked it as a throwaway for testing the waters on IRC).

I assure you that MPOE-PR is a different person, in a different country. I am kind of flattered you would confuse my writing for hers, though I am disheartened you would would assume malice is the goal here rather than education.
257  Economy / Securities / Re: [SolarWind , A Bitcoin Mining Company] 100TH/s Mining Farm - Official Thread on: October 07, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
I believe on your forum there was a post titled "dafuq has the nerve for this!"

In the spirit of sharing, education, and "FREE PUBLICITY" I would like to offer a response to the inquiry posed:

Re: dafuq has the nerve for this!

You all have a pleasant day.
258  Economy / Services / Re: 0.4 BTC / month free (Best payouts - NO POSTING NEEDED & Updated :) on: October 07, 2013, 05:17:32 PM
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Inputs.io - instant bitcoin payments & secure wallet
1DRNiHyAVRRiWJ5jWbnqgatritzQrrZKqw Ripple is a scam enabler http://1v.io/BingoBoingo

I'll probably rearrange my signature stuff to make it more readable while still keeping it compliant.

My signature has been changed to the small signature advertisement and the second line now features a personal project of mine. Since it was prudent to change the forum password after the breach, I figured I might as well get to doing this.
259  Economy / Securities / Re: [MPEx] S.BBET Monthly Statements on: October 07, 2013, 04:05:00 PM

This one seems to have come with an, albeit small, paid wager.
260  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [Open]BitCoin & LiteCoin To USD -> Available $100.00 on: October 02, 2013, 10:09:02 PM
Easy trading with Atruk for 1BTC.

I will vouch that the mentioned trade happened.
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