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2401  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can someone explain why these transactions are not visible in blockchain.info? on: August 24, 2013, 01:41:59 PM
You can see the address of the wallet here:

http://tinypic.com/r/2nhg7py/5

only 1
Look again at all the addresses you received coins in on the Transactions tab of the QT client.


I see there some other address yes, with the type "Received with"

for example

13F9yzbH3MPPakw92aRSG9dB47b8Me6bdp
1GaiFTHerc5c9PzPcfvPp4BCbBHsWimJ3f
etc.

But... what are these addresses? I don't own them, I just have this wallet with 1 address, something I'm missing here?
They confuse everyone. Smiley Most clients will show you those addresses in the address book. Actually, I think QT might be the only client which doesn't.
2402  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can someone explain why these transactions are not visible in blockchain.info? on: August 24, 2013, 12:59:09 PM
You can see the address of the wallet here:

http://tinypic.com/r/2nhg7py/5

only 1
Look again at all the addresses you received coins in on the Transactions tab of the QT client.
2403  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can someone explain why these transactions are not visible in blockchain.info? on: August 24, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
You seem to be confusing addresses with wallets. Wallets contain many addresses. The blockchain link you posted is for only one address, not the entire wallet.
2404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This currency is too volatile! on: August 24, 2013, 09:25:18 AM
Pssh. That's nothing. I was considering emigrating to South Africa. Then I saw the historical exchange rate on the Rand. Yikes.

ETA: For anyone interested, I decided my best bet would probably be to dance across the Korean DMZ with a boombox to get an audience with Jong-un so I could publicly defect in exchange for a free room in one of those luxurious and perpetually-empty diplomat hotels.
2405  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New Player in the game on: August 23, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
I think it'll be profitable to run from January to July and mine ~2BTC.

Profitable as in "produces more in BTC than it consumes in electricity"?

Or profitable as in "paid for it's inital cost by producing more in BTC than it consumes in electricity and is still producing more in BTC than it consumes in electricity"?

Because the former isn't really profitable at all.
Huh Just steal it.
ETA: Actually, I misread the data. The latter.

@OP Q: Being totally honest and caring here, not trying to be a degrading dick or anything like that. Your best bet is to keep the coins for a few months if you're just looking to make money. Check in every couple weeks. If you really have to do something productive with it, use it for your own productive purposes. Bitcoin's a great tool for investment... there just isn't much to safely use it for (as far as investments go).
2406  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New Player in the game on: August 23, 2013, 01:53:05 PM
According to default projection on http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ , it should be profitable to run from January to March making ~.2BTC before it costs more to run than it mines.

I think they have a pretty harsh default projection, though. I think it'll be profitable to run from January to July and mine ~2BTC.

ETA: Oh, hey - just realized I fucked this up!
2407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What makes a country ripe for Bitcoin adoption? Death, research, money. on: August 23, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
The higher the GDP per capita, % of researchers in population, and mortality rate are, the more likely a country's citizens are to be interested in BTC.

Here is the Google Trends map ("Bitcoin" - darker = more searches per person):


[2005] Here is GDP PPP per capita:


[2008] Mortality rate:


[Huh?] #Researchers/million (still some big outliers, like Japan - but that could be from bad GTrends data):



Google Trends is a crap starting point to try gauging interest by country, but I'm not aware of a better data set. Incidentally, I was surprised to learn Serbians and Russians smoke more regularly than drink water.  Cheesy

Other points of interest: there doesn't appear to be a strong correlation between Internet connectivity and Bitcoin interest. There may be a strong correlation between average age of first sexual intercourse and BTC interest (or it's just Scandinavia biasing). While GDP PPP matches up fairly well, income disparity isn't a factor.


(on a serious note, if someone has actually found indicators, I'm eager to see them!)
2408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Is it okay to mine and have the Qt client on the same machine? on: August 23, 2013, 08:36:19 AM
I'm not aware of any mining software which interacts with QT unless you run your own pool (bitcoind used to handle mining locally [no pools] a long, long time ago - but no longer does since CPU mining became obsolete). It'd make public an IP address associated to someone using Bitcoins to the pool op. This isn't really a problem, though, unless you really distrust the pool op and are using an insecure network and OS configuration, or have some other vulnerability on the computer, like running an insecure VNC client.

Ideally, funds should be stored in an offline wallet/PC, which'd obviously imply you aren't mining on the same computer.
2409  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Yahoo Answers Level 2 Accounts - Get huge free traffic to your website! on: August 23, 2013, 08:13:02 AM
The problem is that those answers get flagged as spam and get deleted, and then the account is banned.
Wouldn't the obvious get-around be to ask a question answered by the website? Or the question may ask for a service to do X, and account #2 would post a reply linking to the site. ETA: or just answer the question normally and cite the site.
2410  Other / Off-topic / Re: God created Butterfly Labs...... on: August 23, 2013, 08:09:25 AM
BFL is more likely punishment for Unit 731 (USG gave almost everyone involved full pardon, so this is the one I'm leaning toward) or the Bataan Death March.
2411  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trying to make a new coin on: August 23, 2013, 08:05:44 AM
Why do you want to make a new coin? Please don't Sad
Please don't post without reading OP.
personal interest in understanding cryptocurrencies a little better.
2412  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biscuits thread on: August 23, 2013, 07:49:49 AM
chips and freedom fries
ftfy
2413  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk++ script - v0.1.11 on: August 23, 2013, 07:44:53 AM
Combining some of the projects in this thread with that, there could be a completely new user management regime, and allow multiple regimes to exist on one forum. This could allow all sorts of filters on users. For example, there could be a list which bans people who regularly advertise, a list which bans people who sell certain dubious goods/services, a list of people who turn everything into a political argument, a list which bans people who talk very technically, etc. It would probably also be feasible to eliminate the posts of people meeting certain "hard" criteria, such as activity count. These can be tailored quite precisely to what a person wants and doesn't want to see, whereas management in forums now generally forces an admin to either allow everyone to see the persons post, or ban him, and nobody sees his posts.

I'd eventually like to eliminate most moderation and replace it with web of trust rating/ignore systems so you can choose whether you want to see trolling, profanity, etc. by modifying your trust lists. This is the sort of thing that pretty much requires a forum rewrite, though: it's totally against SMF's nature.

Global ratings like Bitcointalk++ aren't usefully scalable. It's too difficult to prevent (and even define) abuse as the number of users increases. Some sort of WoT is needed.
By incorporating a "plural moderation" script (this isn't being developed, afaik, but seems like an obvious extension from the ignore+ script and the OP script), this could allow multiple lists narrowly defining "abuse," or anything else someone may not want to read. Lists would be maintained by one or a few people who go through posts and mark certain posters with tags. With the ignore script, this could remove threads and posts from users with certain tags, based on what the user individually chooses to filter out. Posts may be able to be tagged individually, too, if someone feels up to it. For example, "dubious investments" could be a tag, and the moderators of that list could remove those threads from the forum without "the forum" needing to do any moderation on its part.

So, for example, let's say someone wanted to remove-from-view people who use referral links. Let's call the list "referral link spam." There would be 1-5 moderators of the list with mod credentials who could click a button next to a person's post (or through adding them manually), including brief reasoning for the inclusion in the list. This would tag them with "referral link spam" and remove their posts and threads from users' view who decide to exclude posts from people tagged with "referral link spam."

From a user perspective, you could choose whichever lists you want, based on both the criteria and moderators maintaining the list (there could be competing moderators for multiple lists removing posts meeting the same criteria if someone distrusts a particular group's judgment). So let's say the lists are:
*Spambots
*BFL shills
*anti-BFL shills
*libertaritards
*dubious investments
*Jews

A user could go into the extension or script settings and simply check off whichever groups of people they don't want - maybe BFL shills, Jews, and libertaritards. Anyone (or any post) with any of those tags would be removed from that user's view. The most important benefit from this, I'd think, is that it gets around the dichotomy of abuser or non-abuser, and allows people to really choose what kind of experience they get out of BTCTalk. The service may or may not benefit from incorporating a charge system for access to a particular list, the fees of which might go toward paying the moderators of the list.

Re-reading this, it doesn't seem particularly clear. I can draw some mockups if it's too confusing (I'd prefer not to, though).
2414  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biscuits thread on: August 23, 2013, 07:25:41 AM
What?? Those are cookies. A jammy dodger sounds like someone who escaped being raped.

Did the Yankees rename everything after the revolution? It's much more than just a simple dialectical difference.

In UK, appropriate means to misappropriate, apartment implies luxury, fanny refers to a vagina instead of a butt, dogging refers to public sex, cunt is more frequently used to describe men than women, a subway is somewhere you're supposed to walk, a cubicle refers to a bathroom stall instead of an office made of thin, modular walls, cots are cribs (cribs are nativity scenes), skive is hooky, grilling is broiling, hooker doesn't refer to a prostitute, a solicitor is a lawyer, liquor is gravy from broth, a semi refers to a duplex (instead of a semi truck, which is an "articulated lorry"), and tea can refer to a meal. That's only maybe 1/100 of the weird contrasts between US & UK English.

I think we need to decide, here and now, which English our countries should both use. Let's decide it over a football match.
2415  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk++ script - v0.1.11 on: August 23, 2013, 06:09:45 AM
This could be a very interesting experiment in decentralized/plural forum management.

Someone's (sorry, can't remember name) working on a script which'd utterly eliminate all traces of an ignored person on this forum for the user.

Combining some of the projects in this thread with that, there could be a completely new user management regime, and allow multiple regimes to exist on one forum. This could allow all sorts of filters on users. For example, there could be a list which bans people who regularly advertise, a list which bans people who sell certain dubious goods/services, a list of people who turn everything into a political argument, a list which bans people who talk very technically, etc. It would probably also be feasible to eliminate the posts of people meeting certain "hard" criteria, such as activity count. These can be tailored quite precisely to what a person wants and doesn't want to see, whereas management in forums now generally forces an admin to either allow everyone to see the persons post, or ban him, and nobody sees his posts.
2416  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How Can I Make Money With Bitcoins And Other Digital Currencies? on: August 22, 2013, 05:29:55 PM
How and where do you day trade? Are you trading the digital currency? Where are some legit places to do this?

Same ways as cash and all other currencies?

Sell stuff, offer a service, day trading, surveys, etc.
I don't. You could try https://bitfinex.com/ (<permits leverage) https://btc-e.com/ or https://www.bitstamp.net/ -- for BTC/USD. You can also do pairs against other cryptocurrencies, such as Litecoin, on certain exchanges. Some are geared toward major ($100k+) traders, while some cater to everyday traders. Most have some kind of specialty, only working in certain countries or working with certain payment processors others won't take (for example, almost all accept a wire, but only some accept things like ACH/SEPA, OKPay, Dwolla, etc).

There are also securities exchanges denominated in BTC for BTC-related investments (and ponzis). IIRC, there's also a Litecoin securities exchange.

There's a giant list of services @ https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade which includes some charts and details which should help you find whatever you're looking for.
2417  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How Can I Make Money With Bitcoins And Other Digital Currencies? on: August 22, 2013, 05:16:15 PM
Same ways as cash and all other currencies?

Sell stuff, offer a service, day trading, surveys, etc.
2418  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: "Butterfly Labs...also received a subpoena" on: August 22, 2013, 04:54:54 PM
OT rambling on TX comment
TX is in 2nd (~$1.3t) for US, way behind CA (~$1.9t, bigger than India) in 2010. Using same year, TX would be 13th between Mexico (~$1t) and Spain (~$1.4t). Some data-collectors combine European countries into one big "EU" blob, where TX would be in 10th place. (put TX one more place down if you include CA in those lists, too)

If it makes TX feel any better, they have a bigger economy by nominal GDP than New Zealand, Israel, Thailand, and Switzerland combined. Houston alone has a significantly higher GDP than Greece. In the US, when we think about CA's troubled economy and $.4t debt, it seems small and inconsequential (it's not very rare to be talked about where I am), but it's roughly the same amount of debt as Greece holds where a default is supposed to be catastrophic. Even the default by Detroit, the largely-irrelevant living dinosaur, was ~50% larger than Iceland's GDP in 2010.

Nations' GDP (2010) http://siteresources.worldbank.org/DATASTATISTICS/Resources/GDP.pdf
TX GDP (2010) http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/state_rev_summary.php?chart=Z0&year=2010&units=d&rank=a
Houston GDP http://greyhill.com/gross-metropolitan-product/
Other sources you can find for yourself Smiley
2419  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hail Eris... for bitcoin on: August 22, 2013, 02:25:45 PM
Are? As in, just starting?

Daughter's name is Meris.  Grin
2420  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Linux Ubuntu the most secure OS to store my BTC on? on: August 22, 2013, 12:53:51 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but, if you want your machine to be more secure, don't install Java at all.  Not on your computer or the browser plugin, just don't have it on your computer, and if you do, don't go to random Bitcoin-related websites which ask you to activate a Java applet and then accept it without a second thought and come back and say something like "Oh noes my account is haxx0rd modz plz, plz mods plz"
Thanks for reminding me. I've been encountering less and less Java in browsing (maybe from change in browsing habits over the years). I think I can finally accept completely dumping it without exception.
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