Thanks for responses. In places where there are no chargebacks, are there any merchants still refusing to accept any major forms of payment for services due to any type of similar issues? -Like in India, do the BTC exchanges accept credit/debit card deposits?

I'm a greedy bastard. I'll wait until my next month's up and take the very slim chance of partial payment within a few decades. Have nothing else to put there and it's doing no harm. 

Agreed. We're already at the top. 

I'm kind of stunned there's still no alternative to people wanting alternative forms of credit and debit cards. Right now in the US, you basically have three choices - reloadable debit, debit linked to bank, and credit. While they're all funded differently, they all work on the merchant's side roughly the same (except in fees and in some cases, when merchants actually receive the money they were paid).

This obviously doesn't work with companies which can't afford the risk of chargebacks nor want the high fees and long waits of receiving funds of plastic processors. -So why is it so difficult to eliminate chargebacks? Fraud is easy to beat with technology. Right now, to fraudulently use plastic, you either need a horribly-weak 4-digit PIN code and the physical card (or the data on the strip and a way to "spoof" the card), or website credentials to use the card (the same risk applies to websites which allow linked bank accounts) and SOMETIMES either a 3-digit CSV code, or sometimes a separate credit card password registered with the credit card company.

Well - why can't I be issued a Yubikey or similar, and be required to use that at ATMs and for online transactions? Poof, 90%+ of fraud eliminated, which eliminates the need for chargebacks given every other potential use of chargebacks should be referred to an independent third-party arbitrator or court. Is the problem here companies, or is there an explicit law prohibiting disallowing chargebacks? Are there any countries with a culture, infrastructure and/or government where no-chargeback credit/debit cards exist?

Yeah - I've been receiving them since the early Gox hack, but activity spiked again a couple weeks after the BTCTalk hack, but's died down again for me.

Some impersonate theymos, a well-known organization, or even John K. Sometimes they don't impersonate, but instead claim to be a new mining company. Some will take the old phishing approach "Hellow, this is Mtgox support and your account has been suspended due to suspicious activity. PLease clicik here to verify your account and unlock it. Thank you and good day, sir, Mtgox" I'm still surprised I haven't seen one try for some reasonable authenticity and make a false PGP signature when they try impersonating an individual. Then for the 99% of people who don't check, "oh look, it's signed - must be him!"

It's a fine service and I think just about everyone's bid on it at some point or another. No reason for it to disappear unless current owner insists on a reserve, keeping the service hostage unless demands are met. Seems unlikely. Maybe announcing closure (which has been done multiple times before preceding a sale) is a way to show potential buyers how many users there actually are. This thread and similar ones are free advertising.

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No, that was just a response to the question of who still used Gox. Price won't crash because they want me to resubmit AML documentation without giving a reason.

If it puts all the files in an encrypted archive, there is no cure, only vaccines.

Pacemaker for Winamp works well, too. Adjusts tempo without affecting pitch.

That's kind of awesome. So it just puts all the files in an archive, I guess? Does it install a new bootable "CryptoLock" OS, or does this function inside other OSes? How does a user purchase Bitcoins without access to their usual Internet browsers if they don't have another capable device?

Hehe, I decided to try a couple days ago, to double-check that they're as bad as I've been suggesting. I only had Dwolla linked, was AML-verified ages ago, so tried to link new bank account for wire AFTER selling BTC.

"Hello Kludge,

We regret to inform you that the Withdrawal Centre method you created for CP FCU on Fri 08 Nov 2013 05:27:51 PM GMT was rejected by our validation system, for the following reason :

To have your bank account verified you should first fill in the identity form associated to your Mt.Gox account(write in your name, DOB, address etc).

In order you can do that, we have to downgrade your account. Once you filled the form, your account will be upgraded to "verified" status again.

When your account is downgraded you will not be able to complete trades or do any transactions, so we suggest you to finish all activities on your account, tell us that you are ready, we will downgrade your account, you will fill in the form and let us know asap that you are done so that your account can be returned to verified status quickly."

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck! Pretty confident in a crash, so just going to wait it out, convert to BTC, sell half on BFX, hold the rest.

Incidentally, Satoshi's PGP key is still quietly hosted on this forum site, behind the forum itself (though I've lost the URL link -- here's another http://bitcoin.org/satoshinakamoto.asc ). In my own BTC shrine, I keep the file safe and local, awaiting his return to lead us into the promised land.

Someone messaged me a month or two ago about changing their email address on-file because their provider shut down after the FreedomHost/etc nonsense. I skimmed the list and noticed some others have similar email service providers. Two emails and a payment were sent out a few minutes ago, so if you do own BDK.BND units and were wondering why BTC showed up in your wallet - that's why. Lemme know if you'd like me to change the email address I'm using for you. It's no hassle.

My only guess'd be that you have Javascript run requests set to deny by default, but have whitelisted MtGox to run Javascript. Bitcoincharts doesn't use JS for charts, but GoxLive, BTCWisdom, and MtGox itself do. It could alternately be that MtGox has some type of code which reverts to a different language if JS support isn't detected.

Otherwise, maybe try a different browser. If you have plugins/extensions, might be worth a try switching them all off and refreshing to see if that helps.

Guess #2 - if you have a very slow Internet connection -- the way GoxLive draws charts, it first draws the axes, then takes a bit of time to download the data (~3 seconds on my slow 3G connection) to actually draw the graph lines and other information on the chart, so if you're just seeing the axes, that may be why.

ETA: Unreserving episodes to do proofreading.

[OT warning]It could be interesting to take a backwards approach to what you're doing. I always thought it was a waste, how few applications take advantage of data transmission except by digital means, or visual codes. It could evolve into an interesting/novel Shazam-type payment application for television/radio commercials. It could be a cool tool for street musicians, too. If physical money goes the way of the dinosaur, it may be commonplace to play your address for tips. There's no reason a bundle of protocols for interpreting sound, visuals (whether bar codes, QR codes, or blinking lights), and certain smells couldn't exist. Phones already contain most required sensors and processing power to do these types of things. Maybe tomorrow, you go to the hospital and decide you want your house to smell like disinfectants and death. Hold your phone away from you and have it "sniff" for information to compare to a database of smells. Your phone would bring up an Amazon page for lemon-scented lysol for the fragrance and the death (see - still very efficient).

[Way OT warning]There are all sorts of fascinating ways to combine different data transmission techniques and procedural generation, too. Maybe you want a musical showerhead, where you select style and tempos of music (mirrored physically by velocity, volume, and speed of musical water hitting your body) by rotating the nozzle selector around. Not only would the physical water coming through the nozzle determine the music being played, but the music style and tempo you select would determine how the physical water comes out, "playing" the sensors. Don't tell me you wouldn't enjoy a bucket's worth of water in your face when The Nozzle decides it's time for a dramatic cymbal crash - and since the music is read physically, anyone can really manipulate either the algorithm itself (perhaps you put a toothpick in one faucet) or the music in real-time. Procedural music generation is still in its infancy, though... If done fantastically well, you could have a showerhead very efficiently storing 2^256 songs by only needing seeds.

What the fuck, guys? I have HORRIBLE memory loss.

But you guys? Yeesh. They've "shut down" (and sold?) twice now, at least. Every time, they post a notice on BitMit.net with a deadline, and then nothing happens. Maybe it changes hands, maybe not. Who knows? I just remember wondering why someone would shut down, THEN sell.

Like - I have a pure-bred whatever. I'm going to stop feeding it, beat it, then sell it in a couple weeks. 

I came up with a theory in the shower... Potential users of Bitcoin are probably intuitive. I arrived at that after hearing a smart man try to coherently explain Bitcoin by dumbing it down, but still failing because he was speaking in abstracts. The moderator eventually tried presenting her understanding as "so geeks get together and solve problems on their computers, and then some other guys with computers look over the solution and determine whether it's right or not so they can figure out if they should give him $5000 or so in these coins - and that.... moves over a billion dollars??"

With the rise of "online lives" (whether escapism, social media addiction, or something less negative-sounding), will there be a flip in general population demographics where more people are intuitive than sensing?

Any news? Company never responded to my email.

Most major BTC clients support coin control, now, where you select the inputs, minimizing or eliminating the risk of adding "You Taint" to other addresses. This can prevent any association with you, so long as you aren't mixing coins from, say, MtGox, with coins you earned or purchased pseudonymously. I mean - I guess it's up to everyone to decide, but I think once you start using Bitcoin as more than a novelty, you maybe don't want a government or private corporation (like MtGox itself) to be able to find out every single person and business you've transacted with. Idunno where you live, but my government doesn't even need a search warrant for most digital information, so maybe I'm paranoid.

Anyway - in most clients, the implementation is super-easy for the end-user, where you just scroll through a list of addresses you've received coins at, and select the ones you want to send from.