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1961  Other / Off-topic / Re: ITT we pretend its 1996 on: November 17, 2013, 07:52:14 PM
I just flew to Canada, without a passport, to open up a bank account, funded in cash. No weird "airplane authorities" shoved a magic wand up my ass, and I didn't need to give my fingerprints at the bank. It was great!

I was kind of surprised they were so unfazed by a five-year-old opening a bank account, though.  Huh
1962  Economy / Lending / Re: [EDU] Exercise caution when lending to new users! on: November 17, 2013, 06:56:09 PM
Stephanie: It's like when you make a loan to your cousin. Don't loan them anything that you wouldn't consider a gift.

Andreas: Well, I can always track my cousin down and kick him in the nuts.

Stephanie: That's true. You can't do that with a Bitcoin address.

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/e18-its-not-that-simple/#.UodX2flusxk
1963  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Real" full-node bandwdith consumption on: November 17, 2013, 02:40:58 PM
Thanks for the data, Kludge.
I'm curious about the throttle, though, what do you think it would look without it?
Anyway, I'll monitor bandwidth of QT client too, from now on...
I'd guess it'd be dependent on the total amount of bandwidth available unless you have a lot of slow peers (like me) connected, where they can't "eat" as much as they could be sent. Most wired connections are asymmetrical, so the user probably wouldn't notice if QT consumed the vast majority of their upload bandwidth unless they were uploading large files.

I'd guesstimate if you had a 756kbps up connection, many peers, and left QT on 24/7, you'd probably be looking at ~100-150gb/mo.
1964  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: November 17, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
Proxy-reserving 36 & 46 for someone off-forum who's interested.

ETA: Fixing Andreas' name, changed Adam's id to ABL. ETA2: Scribd upload revision function appears down. Will fix later.
1965  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Real" full-node bandwdith consumption on: November 17, 2013, 02:15:08 PM
bump for curiosity
1966  Economy / Lending / Re: New idea for safe loans! on: November 17, 2013, 01:18:13 AM
Why doesn't the lendee just offer the moneypak/whatever as collateral?
1967  Economy / Speculation / Re: What effect will Monday's US Congressional hearing have on price? on: November 17, 2013, 12:15:36 AM
Idunno. I'm pretty freakin' excited just to see a two-hour Bitcoin discussion on basic cable (... even if it is CSPAN).  Smiley

This is probably the most extensive coverage of Bitcoin ever on a television station most US citizens have access to.

ETA: Son of a bitch - it's on CSPAN3.  Angry
1968  Other / Off-topic / Re: Forum addiction on: November 16, 2013, 11:53:31 PM
Throttle web browser TDP bandwidth to 1kb/s. You will not be addicted for long. It may actually be a legitimate quit technique - some type of diversion/aversion combo therapy. Irritated by wait, find something else to do while it loads, end up forgetting about the page loading.
1969  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So I went down to the bitcoin ATM today... on: November 16, 2013, 11:40:57 AM
To combat this, an organization should start offering rewards for tips on crimes or finding lost children.
We should just do it ourselves. A few mid-20 male neckbeards on the Internet offering people money to tell them where particular children are, and we'll use Bitcoin.
1970  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Real" full-node bandwdith consumption on: November 15, 2013, 08:43:16 PM
That is surprising. I have my Bitcoin-Qt node running 24/7 at home. It states around 60 active connections, 8 of which are outgoing connections and the rest are incoming. For that reason, I would have thought that the up bandwidth would have been noticeably higher than the down bandwidth...

Not that I care that much. I have a flat rate monthly contract  Smiley
In most cases, upload bandwidth would be dramatically higher. In my case (made a little note in OP), I always have QT throttled to 1kb/s because I can't handle more and still be able to browse online. I also throttle download speed to 9.5kb/s, but that's more than enough to stay sync'd to the blockchain. Download speed throttle is only to even out strain of receiving new blocks so I don't notice it as much.
1971  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Selfish Node: min. bandwdith needed for Bitcoin Core + tons of other data on: November 15, 2013, 07:56:53 PM
Estimated minimum TCP throttle: 3kb/s (likely lower, will continue testing)
Estimated minimum UDP throttle: 1kb/s (likely closer to .1kb/s)
Caveats: Because throttling will prevent you from truly acting as a full node and processing the transaction queue, you will likely not see transactions sent to addresses you control until it's included in a block. If you receive a low-priority transaction, it's possible your client won't notice it for a looong time (a 10kb/s throttle appears to keep up fairly well with the transaction queue). There may also be a delay when you send a transaction out, though temporarily unthrottling the connection would obviously fix this. This minimum WILL change due both to changes to Bitcoin's rules and the increasing blockchain size.


I figured someone may be interested in how much bandwidth running QT actually consumes per month in a scenario. It's right around 3GB down, 1GB up, assuming network is caught up AND you have severely throttled upload bandwidth allowed to QT (in these stats, QT has always been throttled to 1kb/s UL). December 10, '13 update: That statement is false. QT downloads transactions for queue as well as blocks. By throttling (for these stats, I set DL limit to 9.5kB/s) above the "true minimum" required, bandwidth is still going toward downloading transactions, which is non-essential. This makes these stats useless except to know QT will currently function (without accumulating a block backlog) with less than 9.5kB/s or ~3GB/mo allotted to it.

QT consumption stats:

Grabbed on December 10, 2013

The stats file gets enormous, so I semi-regularly delete it and don't have older data - sorry.

For the sake of comparison (I'm not trying to make any kind of point with this), here is "real" consumption from a well-used Skype client without use of video/audio streaming:


ETA: Stats on Chrome are incomplete for some reason... so here're the stats for the download manager I use (every large file I download off the web):


Other data:
Sync times and theoretical "cost to sync": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334778.msg6306363#msg6306363
Blockchain compression (not pruning!) methods compared: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334778.msg6352393#msg6352393
1972  Other / Off-topic / Re: Android or IOS based smartphone? on: November 15, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
All of these digital telephones are a plague.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0
1973  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone know how i can get 0.04? on: November 15, 2013, 07:22:52 PM
You're one lucky kid, unfortunately i don't have any good skills except downloading mods for video games. I am a fast typer as well. Eh that probably doesn't do anything really.
If you're willing to really work, you can make money in pretty much anything. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294947



All of it is confusing, what do i do to make 0.04 fast?
Transcribe an episode of LTB. It takes maybe 6 hours, or one night after school.
1974  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm sooo cheap... on: November 15, 2013, 07:16:35 PM
Ordered plain water every time I go to McDonald ...
Wife does this, too. She also collects non-burnable trash to take to a store trash can so we aren't paying for trash-hauling service.
1975  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: November 15, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
IA certain liberty in transcription is allowed, as long as the meaning is unaltered.
I.e., you are encouraged to leave out filling phrases like "uhm, uh, you know" etc.
Ads have to be transcribed as well.

Oh I just read the part about "you know". Adam says that pretty much in every sentence and I've been insisting on including them all along.
That's fine (I think). Don't bother removing them if they're already in there, just try not to do it again.
1976  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: November 15, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
Any updates on the PR of Ep. 18?
ETA: Actually, 18 is slated to be proofread for tomorrow. Disregard what I said, heh.
1977  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: November 14, 2013, 01:27:17 PM
I can sort of relate to that. Had a part with bad audio as well. Tweaked the audio a bit to make it sharper.

Kluge, you may need to tweak the audio a bit on some episodes to get through the unintelligible parts. Need any help with that?
Maybe. I'll let you know. Probably won't get through yours today - probably tomorrow. Have been busy getting AML-compliant today (haven't made a USD withdrawal from an exchange in, err... a LONG time. Forgot how easy forging notary stamps was), trolling forum, and daughter just woke up. Have big delivery coming later today, and stuff to set up for wife from that.
1978  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: PLAYTIN Wallet on: November 14, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
Do we need to add our Playtex ID in sigs to receive payment?
1979  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-12 $5 million worth of bitcoin vanish in China on: November 14, 2013, 12:48:38 PM
more and more people are copying inputs.IOWE business model
You must mean the MyBitcoin, Bitcoinica, Bitomat, Bitfloor, Bitcoin7, Bitscalper model.

Though... neither Global Bond Limited or Inputs.io have "bit" in the title. Maybe it's a new trend...  Shocked
are you an employee? why do you advertise it in your signature
After careful consideration, I have decided not to continue advertising Inputs.
1980  Other / Off-topic / Re: What if a girl walks up to me claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto? on: November 14, 2013, 12:24:44 PM
She'd sign one of the many copies of Satoshi's PGP pubkey floating about.

We're in the internet dead-zone. Remember Ironman?
Huh You don't need an Internet connection to use PGP/GPG (by the way, absolute worst name acronyms ever -- I can never remember which is which). Any true Bitcoiner has at least 10 copies of Satoshi's .asc hidden around the house (and at least one on their mobile device!).

(and no, what the Hell is Ironman? That hair band song?)

ETA: I guess if that fails... tits or gtfo?
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