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2421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists/Christians in the US - tax free, legal scams on: February 17, 2016, 05:14:07 PM
Money making "christianity" is not from God and should be banned  Smiley

and the "healing Christianity" is?  They kill people with this nonsense.

Watch the videos, some are disturbing, they almost paralyzed the guy right on the stage.  In the name of Jesus Lord and Savior.

2422  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 17, 2016, 05:10:16 PM
God made man and woman ...

How do you know?

Please don't say "because Bible says so..."

Bible is the word of God.

Says who?  You and your deluded friends?

God must be one fucked up bronze age dude:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0
2423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 17, 2016, 05:08:58 PM
God made man and woman ...

How do you know?

Please don't say "because Bible says so..."

Damn you were faster than me on this one....
But I prefer my argument though, cause trying to convince them that God is a myth never works ^^

Yes, the sheep argument is more relevant.  Assuming of course God exists and God created sheep, including gay sheep.

They will probably say that God created straight sheep but devil screw them up and they became gay.  

So God creates straight animals but devil (assuming he exists) is going around and checking all animals where they put their dicks, and decides
which 10% will be putting dicks in different holes.  Is that in the Bible too, probably.  If it is not, it should be.  You know like:
lions: 5%
sheep: 10%
etc.

You have to tell the devil how many conversions of each animal type the poor guy has to do.  Otherwise we will have chaos and we'll
have too many or too few gay animals Angry


2424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 17, 2016, 04:53:38 PM
God made man and woman ...

How do you know?

Please don't say "because Bible says so..."
2425  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists/Christians in the US on: February 17, 2016, 04:44:08 PM
TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

The saddest part is that some people die from the "healing" these Christian preachers provide.  See around 57+ min mark on that video for examples.

Robert Tilton was pulling 80M+/yr in his hay days, tax free.  Sickening...


If I were a greedy sociopath, I'd be a Televangelist too... easy money, no chance of going to prison for being a con artist...

You only work 2 hours each week... telling people what to think and collecting millions of dollars... while they practically worship you as a god... who wouldn't want that?

I wouldn't lose a night's sleep over the people I killed... because, I'm now a filthy rich sociopath with tons of adoring fans, and plenty of time on my hands...

There is no difference between preaching, offering prays for money and Nigerian inheritance scams.  Well, the only difference is that one is legal the other is not.

This will continue until churches are stripped of their income tax exemption status.  Once they are officially operating as for profit businesses, maybe people will see what they really are.

Right now, it is still a 'Wild West' for these crooks.
2426  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says on: February 17, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
These kind of topics show the level maturity and common sense of atheists in general  Smiley

I think religious people are immature.  You guys are like young kids who still believe in Santa Claus.
You have the same evidence for God as young kids have for Santa Claus.  Actually, kids have a stronger physical evidence (so they think).
He gives them presents every fucking year.

What did God give you?  Pain and misery, wars, stake burning, chopping hands and feet, stoning, chopping heads off, etc.
God is the most vengeful, hateful, masochistic, misogynistic being ever invented by a human mind.

Time to grow up.  There is no Santa Claus just like there is no God.

This thread is here to stay to show how ridiculous your Bible is.

To other Atheists out there, please post more crazy Bible quotes here.  

We can keep them as an exhibit A and show it to the morons who justify their religion with "Bible says so..." argument.

2427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists/Christians in the US on: February 17, 2016, 06:24:38 AM
TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

The problem I have with these guys is they are not stupid...

They are under no illusion that religion is real... they are con artists, plain and simple

If they were not preachers, they would be in prison...

The saddest part is that some people die from the "healing" these Christian preachers provide.  See around 57+ min mark on that video for examples.

Robert Tilton was pulling 80M+/yr in his hay days, tax free.  Sickening...
2428  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists/Christians in the US on: February 17, 2016, 05:27:05 AM
TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek
2429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists/Christians in the US on: February 17, 2016, 05:19:43 AM
Much like the flu... children and the elderly are particularly susceptible to religion

Children are indoctrinated by their parents, who they trust 100% to tell them the truth (for some strange reason)

The elderly are near death, and grasp at any religion which promises of an afterlife

When your kids are old enough, like 12-14, tell them not to trust anyone (including you), not to trust authority (teachers/parents/grandparents), read and figure stuff for yourself.  Question everything.  And never believe in supernatural shit, unless there is scientific evidence for it.

I did that with my kids.  They developed pretty good critical thinking skills.  They can smell BS from a mile away.  No matter if it comes from a teacher, preacher, politician or a car salesman.


2430  Other / Politics & Society / Re: a more personal opinion on: February 17, 2016, 04:01:07 AM
You might find this interview useful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogi9QSJIMqI
2431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says on: February 17, 2016, 03:18:52 AM
Dude, what's with all these religious threads you're starting?  I'd say there is going to come a point when enough is enough, wouldn't you say?  You might want to just consolidate them else you could have pretty much an infinite number of threads.

Yeah, I'm done.  I've made my point, I think.
2432  Other / Politics & Society / Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 17, 2016, 03:14:53 AM

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Crazy shit Bible says
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OLD TESTAMENT:

Kings 6:29 - cannibalism
Judges 11:29-40 - human sacrifice
Leviticus 25:44 - slavery
Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide
Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes
Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal
Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not fuck young boys should be somewhere there....
Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers
Leviticus 20:13 - killing of gays
Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father
Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name
Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism
Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters
Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-)
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin
Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands
Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged
Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind
Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else
Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden

NEW TESTAMENT (written thousands of years after the OLD testament):

Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes
Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands
Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword
Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey
Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy
Luke 19:26-2 - genocide
Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners
Revelation 2:5 - more killing
Revelation 2:23 - killing children
Psalm 137:9 - killing babies

Crazy things Bible says, #1:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrWslruLvPo

Crazy things Bible says, #2:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0TXzeUbAE

Crazy things Bible says, #3:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkl_PefewXc&index=3&list=PLlWVv7VJx45a57Qu74jPvikH78wleNTmd

Crazy things Bible says, #4:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzi_XbxcPE

Crazy things Bible says, #5:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cb0GNc1WY

....


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Crazy shit Christians say
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Pat Robertson: Quit Your Job Over Voodoo doll:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X65odgRN6FM

What our Christian, bitcointalk members said:
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...
You misunderstand: God created the angels, Jesus was one of them, he sent Jesus to Earth, we crucified him.

I follow the Bible completely and accurately by not following it completely and accurately.

...
Attacking science and understanding is NOT attacking people, except under one circumstance. That circumstance is when the people have science and understanding as their religion.

All Coincube attacks is science and understanding with other science and understanding. But you take it as a personal attack, thereby showing that your religion is science and understanding. So YOU are the one who hates science when you hate religion.

...

But, try thinking a little more. Here's some more thoughts.

1. The book compilation had other writings considered. These other writings don't change the book regarding the way we are talking. In addition, the compilation was done to clarify what was the truth. It was done by comparing the basics of the Hebrew canon with the Books that would go into the New Testament, and with the Apocrypha. Books that added things that weren't supported by the canon were left out. Books that had items that weren't verified by other N.T. books were left out of the N.T.  The process was meticulously done.

2. The universe is believed to have started about 6,000 years ago by many. The fact that others believe it to have started billions of years ago, shows that they have a religious belief. Pick your religion.

3. If I have the power to create something on the scale of the universe, how in the world can something as tiny as you second guess me or what I have in mind? My thoughts would be way beyond yours... to say nothing about the fact that you can't even read the minds of your fellow humans.

4. God says in the writings he authorized, that His focus in creation was making and supporting mankind.

5. The Bible talks about 13 classes of angels. Some of them take care of the forces in the whole of outer space - the universe. --- Look in the Revelation for the part about the Dragon's tail sweeping a third of the stars out of the sky. The standard understanding is that these stars were angels. Satan, the Dragon, the Devil, whose name means Destroyer (in Revelation), thought that taking a third of the supporting angels out of the universe, would certainly destroy the universe. What He found out is that the whole universe is upheld by God... through the angels, or not through them.

6. The idea of humans going to space is my idea. But consider the context of it. If people had remained perfect, and never died, it wouldn't really take long for standing room only to be achieved on Earth... and faster than ever considering how healthy the earth was back then.

But thanks for giving me the chance to explain some of these things.
2433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: a more personal opinion on: February 17, 2016, 02:12:17 AM
So, lately I've became interested in the way of buddhism. I've seen some video about it and got me interested in it's backstory, origins, etc...
So what are your views on buddhism? Do you consider it religion as every other or maybe something else? I'm really interested in your views here on "pol and soc", since you guys are mostly bashing every religion (I've never been religious person, never really cared at all but this got my attention).

I think Buddhism is way better than any of the theistic religions.  I especially like the meditation aspect and reflection.  Focus on a human vs deity.
When I looked at it last time, it has lots in common with humanism.

Their belief in supernatural powers is a bit too much for my blood.  But in all, it is way more positive than traditional bronze age religions; they see things as they are.


2434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists in the US on: February 17, 2016, 01:48:29 AM
Westboro Baptist Church - #1 hate church in America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMbfQ117Jts

To be completely fair, WBC is just trolling...

I have it on good authority, that nearly every member of that "church" is a lawyer... they get their money by protesting soldier funerals, calling them fags... then when someone throws a punch, they sue...

I don't think the WBC actually believes what they say... they are simply trolls who are playing a game for money

I almost feel like they are trolling Christians by being extreme literalists (fundamentalists)...

I wondered about it, who would hire them?

They must believe in this BS, how else you can do it with a straight face, you would slip up sooner or later....

They could believe it... who really knows

Nobody needs to hire them... it's almost entrapment... they protest and say offensive things, until someone assaults them... then they sue the person in civil court for loads of $$
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-the-reviled-westboro-baptist-church-makes-money-2015-6

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The marine’s family eventually paid WBC $16,510
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the city of Bellevue paid Phelps-Roper $17,000
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WBC in 1995 won more than $100,000 from a lawsuit against the Kansas’ Funeral Picketing Act because it was a violation of the First Amendment
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Members are required to give 30 percent of their income to the church, which is tax deductible for the donor since WBC is technically a religious organization
(it's also technically a hate group)
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Phelps, (who was disbarred by the Kansas Supreme Court in 1979 for his lack of ethics) and several members are lawyers

Basically scamming the system, legally.  Nice.  People should just ignore them.  They are so offensive on so many levels.  It is hard.
2435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists in the US on: February 17, 2016, 01:26:31 AM
Westboro Baptist Church - #1 hate church in America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMbfQ117Jts

To be completely fair, WBC is just trolling...

I have it on good authority, that nearly every member of that "church" is a lawyer... they get their money by protesting soldier funerals, calling them fags... then when someone throws a punch, they sue...

I don't think the WBC actually believes what they say... they are simply trolls who are playing a game for money

I almost feel like they are trolling Christians by being extreme literalists (fundamentalists)...

I wondered about it, who would hire them?

They must believe in this BS, how else you can do it with a straight face, you would slip up sooner or later....
2436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists in the US on: February 17, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
Crazy things preachers say:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUP7r5S6rRw
2437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists in the US on: February 17, 2016, 01:19:28 AM
And here are some documentary from Australia (about US cooks).  Very funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7e9vnwTjJA
2438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Televangelists in the US on: February 17, 2016, 01:15:53 AM
Westboro Baptist Church - #1 hate church in America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMbfQ117Jts

2439  Other / Politics & Society / Televangelists/Christians in the US - tax free, legal scams on: February 17, 2016, 12:57:27 AM
Televangelists in America.  Angels, born again Christians, "angels on your body", ointments, devil, bad angels, all nine yards.

Exposé of religious crooks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXVwkLQR3GM

TELEVANGELISTS: 'Fleecing the Flock':
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82YvHx9Cek

Crazy things preachers say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUP7r5S6rRw

Crazy things creationists say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK7i-dtMaWk

Preachers gone wild:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTCiMxPz2Qg

Crazy things Christians say:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUSzaKrxD8

Kirk Cameron - How God created man? (He is not joking):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8GvccVRub8

Speaking in Tongues Exposed:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcd1a68YQq0

Jesus camp for kids (very disturbing):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Christian child abuse (al-Qaeda style):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3gPpPoWEBg

Raising a monster.  Christian Home Schooling:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEPn9spdr5A

Brainwashing children: Jesus Camp - 2006 Documentary (full version):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_u4U7-cn8

Sarah Palin witchcraft ceremony:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg

The craziest claim by a creationist (how dragons were created):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK6tkcxAHIw

Warning: PG rated.


2440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stop with these topics on: February 16, 2016, 11:31:04 PM
...no one really "hates" anyone just because of their religion...

Say what?

Have you read a history book?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_%28historiography%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt

Have you read the bible?
Quote from: Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Quote from: Deuteronomy 13:7-12
Some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. And all Israel shall hear and fear and never again do any such wickedness as this among you.

Quote from: Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Any relation?

Religions are a plague upon humanity... Christianity is no better than Islam, they are both awful

+1

I agree.  First step is to admit we have a problem.

We should be vocal and expose injustice and shear stupidity of religions. 

Christians are being contained only because we have secular governments (at least we pretend they are) and we have laws on books that criminalizes hate speech among other things.

Look at Westboro church in US, youtube it.  Saying it is a Muslim issue is just being ignorant of the problem.
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