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1461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 22, 2019, 01:49:50 PM

Not so fast apeman, not so fast.

That is a lie and spirit of antichrist. Your ticket is almost set.
You can't debunk historical fact of The Lord Jesus existence and overwhelming number of facts, you can research.

Fact1:  The Bible has more manuscript evidence than any ten pieces of ancient literature combined. There are more than 24000 copies of portions of the New Testament in existence today some of which date back
           to the first century AD.
Fact2:  The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, contains all books of the Old Testament except Esther and includes a copy of the Book of Enoch. These manuscripts confirmed            
           that the Old Testament Scriptures were translated accurately for the last 2300 years.
Fact3:  The Septuagint version first translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew to Greek done by the king of Egypt Ptolemy II Philadelphus around 250 B.C. in famous library in Alexandria.
Fact4:  The quantity&specificity of fulfilled Bible prophecy is the "DNA" evidence of the God of the Bible Jesus being True Creator.
Fact5:  The early church fathers confirmed the writings of the apostles aka the New Testament canon in their writings long before the corrupt Roma Catholic church came into existence in 313 AD.
Fact6:  Archeological discoveries have confirmed specific New Testament people, places and events - The Pilate Stone discovered at the site of Caesarea Maritima in 1961, burial box of James the brother of Jesus,
           the discovery of Nazareth, Peter's house in Capernaum, pool of Siloam, The Shroud of Turin, etc...
Fact7:  First century historians confirm the existence of Jesus Christ, His miracles, His crucifixion under Pontius Pilate, His resurrection from the dead, christian disciples continuing his teachings.
Fact8:  Plenty of manuscripts, for example John Rylands MS(AD 130), Bodmer Papyrus II (AD 150-200), A.Chester Beatty Papyri (AD 200), The Muratorian Canon Fragment (AD 175) etc,etc...
Fact9:  Acknowledging the life of Jesus Christ of the Bible: Titus Flavius Josephus, non christian historian-The Complete works of Josephus, Cornelius Tacitus a Roman senator and historian AD 56-117-The Annals

The only proof of love is The Truth.

Don't be ignorant clown like this ape guy who thinks that he is a monkey living on a spinning ball. Read your Bible and ask for understanding, do your research.


Show me one contemporary historical evidence of Jesus existence.  Ape.

Did you forget to look at Fact 6, above? Those are all contemporary finds. Relax. Slow down. You just might be saved yet.

Cool

OMG, Shroud of Turin? LOL.

BADecker, do you want to buy a Brooklyn Bridge? I have one for sale.  Only 2 BTC.  Comes with the Certificate of Authenticity, confirmed by the leading 'bridge industry' experts. LOL.

You also need to buy a clue.  How can you be so stupid and gullible is beyond me.
1462  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 21, 2019, 11:56:26 PM
Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus wrote about Jesus briefly given some credit to his historical existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Non-Christian_sources

Of course, this doesn't change all the later inventions about his life inspired on the Old Testament "prophecies" and on the "will to believe".

People did worse things to get free Roman citizenship.

BTW, Joshua is a common Jewish name.

There is no contemporary historical evidence of Jesus existence.

It is like writing today about 'John' from 1947, Roswell, LOL.

Evidence from Tacitus, Evidence from Pliny the Younger, Evidence from Josephus, Evidence from the Babylonian Talmud, Evidence from Lucian... https://probe.org/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources-2/.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus and https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died.

Both Pontius Pilate and Julius Caesar may have written about Jesus, but their writings are not known to not be forgeries.

Cool

None of it is contemporary historical evidence.  Lookup the definition of contemporary if you don't know what it means.

Game over.  Thanks for playing.


Not so fast apeman, not so fast.

That is a lie and spirit of antichrist. Your ticket is almost set.
You can't debunk historical fact of The Lord Jesus existence and overwhelming number of facts, you can research.

Fact1:  The Bible has more manuscript evidence than any ten pieces of ancient literature combined. There are more than 24000 copies of portions of the New Testament in existence today some of which date back
           to the first century AD.
Fact2:  The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, contains all books of the Old Testament except Esther and includes a copy of the Book of Enoch. These manuscripts confirmed            
           that the Old Testament Scriptures were translated accurately for the last 2300 years.
Fact3:  The Septuagint version first translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew to Greek done by the king of Egypt Ptolemy II Philadelphus around 250 B.C. in famous library in Alexandria.
Fact4:  The quantity&specificity of fulfilled Bible prophecy is the "DNA" evidence of the God of the Bible Jesus being True Creator.
Fact5:  The early church fathers confirmed the writings of the apostles aka the New Testament canon in their writings long before the corrupt Roma Catholic church came into existence in 313 AD.
Fact6:  Archeological discoveries have confirmed specific New Testament people, places and events - The Pilate Stone discovered at the site of Caesarea Maritima in 1961, burial box of James the brother of Jesus,
           the discovery of Nazareth, Peter's house in Capernaum, pool of Siloam, The Shroud of Turin, etc...
Fact7:  First century historians confirm the existence of Jesus Christ, His miracles, His crucifixion under Pontius Pilate, His resurrection from the dead, christian disciples continuing his teachings.
Fact8:  Plenty of manuscripts, for example John Rylands MS(AD 130), Bodmer Papyrus II (AD 150-200), A.Chester Beatty Papyri (AD 200), The Muratorian Canon Fragment (AD 175) etc,etc...
Fact9:  Acknowledging the life of Jesus Christ of the Bible: Titus Flavius Josephus, non christian historian-The Complete works of Josephus, Cornelius Tacitus a Roman senator and historian AD 56-117-The Annals

The only proof of love is The Truth.

Don't be ignorant clown like this ape guy who thinks that he is a monkey living on a spinning ball. Read your Bible and ask for understanding, do your research.


Show me one contemporary historical evidence of Jesus existence.  Ape.
1463  Other / Off-topic / Re: QuadrigaCX unprecedented scandal on: February 21, 2019, 10:00:40 PM
One of their 'cold' wallets:

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/wallet/37446269

And this is probably wife's pension plan.  Plenty of activity about key dates:

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/3EbSda5tDELTY3hXAgguXanwNuDivqS2ep

Fucking crooks.

Some should take them to court.  This is fraud, laud and clear.

Unfortunately, judges are technologically handicapped.

They started stealing in December and January.

Here is one of their destination address with 1K of bitcoins stolen on Jan 1st and then Jan 3rd, 2019

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/3HNYrC3gDn3jqe1GGvSnLMpyCzPT4ugjCr

Class action lawyers will be busy in the coming months and years.  Jen and Omar will end up on Interpol most wanted.
1464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 21, 2019, 04:04:48 PM
Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus wrote about Jesus briefly given some credit to his historical existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Non-Christian_sources

Of course, this doesn't change all the later inventions about his life inspired on the Old Testament "prophecies" and on the "will to believe".

People did worse things to get free Roman citizenship.

BTW, Joshua is a common Jewish name.

There is no contemporary historical evidence of Jesus existence.

It is like writing today about 'John' from 1947, Roswell, LOL.

Evidence from Tacitus, Evidence from Pliny the Younger, Evidence from Josephus, Evidence from the Babylonian Talmud, Evidence from Lucian... https://probe.org/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources-2/.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus and https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died.

Both Pontius Pilate and Julius Caesar may have written about Jesus, but their writings are not known to not be forgeries.

Cool

None of it is contemporary historical evidence.  Lookup the definition of contemporary if you don't know what it means.

Game over.  Thanks for playing.
1465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: February 21, 2019, 12:34:29 PM
Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus wrote about Jesus briefly given some credit to his historical existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Non-Christian_sources

Of course, this doesn't change all the later inventions about his life inspired on the Old Testament "prophecies" and on the "will to believe".

People did worse things to get free Roman citizenship.

BTW, Joshua is a common Jewish name.

There is no contemporary historical evidence of Jesus existence.

It is like writing today about 'John' from 1947, Roswell, LOL.
1466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 20, 2019, 01:39:00 AM

I guess you never had or worked with kids.  Some are born leaders, some are not.  No matter the circumstances.

Most of the time, people who look and act like born leaders are born psychopaths, but some are born sociopaths.

Cool

No question about it.  Many psychopaths are leaders, probably a higher percentage than non-psychopaths.

The issue I brought up is that we are all born with different innate qualities and applying the same outcome to everyone is just not right.

Socialism and communism are wrong because they start with the wrong assumption about our human nature.


so if a sith lord with magical power shows up that is powerful with the "force" you would voluntarilly submit for the rest of your existence to be his salary slave?
isis tried to create such a sith lord actually

Unlike many of you on this forum, I have experienced both ends of the stick.

Sooner rather than later you will revert to your natural predisposition.
1467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 19, 2019, 01:50:25 PM

I guess you never had or worked with kids.  Some are born leaders, some are not.  No matter the circumstances.

Most of the time, people who look and act like born leaders are born psychopaths, but some are born sociopaths.

Cool

No question about it.  Many psychopaths are leaders, probably a higher percentage than non-psychopaths.

The issue I brought up is that we are all born with different innate qualities and applying the same outcome to everyone is just not right.

Socialism and communism are wrong because they start with the wrong assumption about our human nature.
1468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 19, 2019, 01:43:48 PM
You like attributing motive to others a lot. Motives to me, motives to these people you talk about. No one deserves anything. People deserve what they can create for themselves. Just because some one works grinding themselves down forever does not mean they have no choice or are unable to change this. You insist on looking at everyone as victims. This doesn't help people. What helps people is not having a bloated bureaucracy sucking up endless resources while it regulates everyone around it to death while never actually attaining any of the goals it was designed to meet.

You only want to see the victim aspect of this story. The reality is some people belong in those factories, if you asked a few of these people a lot of them would tell you so themselves. A lot of them are grateful just to have a dependable wage, but no, here you come to save them from that for their own good! Aren't you morally superior!

Your vision of society and humankind is simply wrong and I can't do anything against that.

Not wrong as in "moraly wrong", simply wrong as in "stupidly wrong".

You believe in responsability, freedom and meritocravy. Those three things are believes and nothing more. They're the base of the American dream and the tools that hold current society together. All of them are false and have been provren false by all sociologic studies.

I can only advise you to try to read Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgment of Taste of Pierre Bourdieu which would, rather elegantly, demonstrate how the whole "rational choice" and "freedom" ideas are complete fallacies.

Anyway we've diggen far enough. We now know exactly where is the difference between you and me. Not much more to discuss unless you're ready to open yourself to new ideas or ready to support your core beliefs.

You are forgetting about one thing:  we are not all born equal.  We respond differently to external stimuli.  You are painting everyone with the same brush.  That is your mistake.  Any study that does not take into account the fact that societies are heterogeneous systems is erroneous, right from the start.

Some of us are born 'slaves' while others are born 'slave' masters. If you don't like the word slave, substitute it with 'passive', 'submissive', 'weak', 'lazy', 'hopeless', 'apathetic',  'uneager' etc.

Equalizing outcomes is wrong, no matter who does it. It always leads to injustice.


no one is voluntarily a slave, people are made slaves, by others that teach them crap or scam, reducing them to capitalist money earning cattle etc.

Environment plays a role but qualities like leadership or ambition are innate, IMHO.  You cannot make a stallion into a draft horse.
1469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 19, 2019, 01:38:56 PM
All of them are false and have been provren false by all sociologic studies.

And there we go. All of your evidence comes from the least scientific branch of the most unscientific field of study that people barely qualify as a science. Social sciences can maintain no controls, can not directly observe results, can not account for so many variables... IE it doesn't follow scientific theory. It attempts to at best. You think we have diggen far enough though, so lets stop diggen.

This is utterly stupid.
So sociology is not a science because it doesn't directly observe results in a controled environment with controled variables? That's your argument against sociology and social sciences in general??

You are forgetting about one thing:  we are not all born equal.  We respond differently to external stimuli.  You are painting everyone with the same brush.  That is your mistake.  Any study that does not take into account the fact that societies are heterogeneous systems is erroneous, right from the start.

Some of us are born 'slaves' while others are born 'slave' masters. If you don't like the word slave, substitute it with 'passive', 'submissive', 'weak', 'lazy', 'hopeless', 'apathetic',  'uneager' etc.

Equalizing outcomes is wrong, no matter who does it. It always leads to injustice.


This is simply ridiculous.

Not being born equal is not the same thing as being born in a definitive way like you suggest.

Unless rare genetic disabilities, no one is born "submessive" or "weak" or "lazy".

Born lazy... And you dare calling yourself science supporter?

I guess you never had or worked with kids.  Some are born leaders, some are not.  No matter the circumstances.
1470  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 18, 2019, 11:39:18 AM
You like attributing motive to others a lot. Motives to me, motives to these people you talk about. No one deserves anything. People deserve what they can create for themselves. Just because some one works grinding themselves down forever does not mean they have no choice or are unable to change this. You insist on looking at everyone as victims. This doesn't help people. What helps people is not having a bloated bureaucracy sucking up endless resources while it regulates everyone around it to death while never actually attaining any of the goals it was designed to meet.

You only want to see the victim aspect of this story. The reality is some people belong in those factories, if you asked a few of these people a lot of them would tell you so themselves. A lot of them are grateful just to have a dependable wage, but no, here you come to save them from that for their own good! Aren't you morally superior!

Your vision of society and humankind is simply wrong and I can't do anything against that.

Not wrong as in "moraly wrong", simply wrong as in "stupidly wrong".

You believe in responsability, freedom and meritocravy. Those three things are believes and nothing more. They're the base of the American dream and the tools that hold current society together. All of them are false and have been provren false by all sociologic studies.

I can only advise you to try to read Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgment of Taste of Pierre Bourdieu which would, rather elegantly, demonstrate how the whole "rational choice" and "freedom" ideas are complete fallacies.

Anyway we've diggen far enough. We now know exactly where is the difference between you and me. Not much more to discuss unless you're ready to open yourself to new ideas or ready to support your core beliefs.

You are forgetting about one thing:  we are not all born equal.  We respond differently to external stimuli.  You are painting everyone with the same brush.  That is your mistake.  Any study that does not take into account the fact that societies are heterogeneous systems is erroneous, right from the start.

Some of us are born 'slaves' while others are born 'slave' masters. If you don't like the word slave, substitute it with 'passive', 'submissive', 'weak', 'lazy', 'hopeless', 'apathetic',  'uneager' etc.

Equalizing outcomes is wrong, no matter who does it. It always leads to injustice.
1471  Other / Off-topic / Re: QuadrigaCX unprecedented scandal on: February 16, 2019, 01:54:03 PM
 

2019 started with another high-profile scandal: Canadian cryptocurrency exchange QuadrigaCX cannot return approximately $ 190 million to its customers and the reason is sudden death of its owner, Gerald Kotten.

QuadrigaCX lost access to customer assets, as only Gerald Kotten, had access to wallets.

Most of the funds of the exchange are stored in "cold" wallets (without connecting to the network). This is an effective way to protect customer funds. It turned out that Cotten himself managed the “cold” wallets and after his death no one could get access to the funds that are stored on them.

In the Supreme Court, Kotten's widow, Jennifer Robertson, stated that QuadrigaCX owes its clients about $ 190 million in the form of cryptocurrency and fiat money. Cotten's laptop is with Robertson, as she is his only executor and beneficiary, but it does not help much. She does not know the password, and the specialist hired by the company could not bypass encryption. Robertson claims that Cotten did not leave any business records. Also, the widow of the entrepreneur reported that the "hot" wallets (which are connected to the network) kept the "minimum number of coins"…

Some believe that Cotten faked his death and left clear instructions to his wife. According to another version, the leaders of the company who took advantage of the situation are to blame. Robertson has already posted death certificate of her husband and his death was confirmed by the government.

If the company really does not have access to “cold” wallets, it will not be possible to return the funds. Cryptocurrency will remain there forever. At the same time, QuadrigaCX filed for creditor protection with the Supreme Court of Nova Scotia. But hopes of the company that the authorities will assist them and recognize their financial difficulties are gone. Accordingly to latest news victims won’t get any help from Canadian Regulator.

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If they are honest about it, they should publish the addresses that they cannot access.

That way, nobody will be able to touch these funds.
1472  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jesus Christ is comming back here on: February 13, 2019, 05:27:45 PM
Since you are blind to it, it won't be real for you until you get there.

Nice god you imagine you have.   Create me just to torture me for all eternity.   Wink


God works in mysterious ways....

God created all people for His glory and theirs. If you want to throw your glory away, that's up to you. God allows you this freedom... or freedom to be saved if you want. When Jesus comes back, it will be too late to change your mind.

Cool

When is that?  Could you, Jesus, God, the three Musketeers (Son, Father and the Holy Spirit) be more specific?

BTW,  it is never too late to change one's mind.  Read your fucking Christian mythology.  It is right there.

Rapists, serial killers change their mind every day and are all forgiven.  Born again 'Christians'.

God gave people brain, enabled some of them with critical thinking skills, provided no evidence of his existence,
played hide and seek for millennia,  and then he will punish those who used their head to not believe in pagan myths without evidence?  

Are you sure you thought this through?

Ask Jesus to post here, or shut the fuck up about your imaginary friend.
1473  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's The Best ways to become Rich? on: February 11, 2019, 03:41:30 AM
List down your Suggestions Please  Grin Cheesy

0. Learn the value of capital.
1. Spend less than you make.
2. Invest the money you saved in step 1 to generate more money.
3. Go to step 1
1474  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TODAY'S CHRISTIANITY IN THE WORLD on: February 07, 2019, 02:32:00 PM
So, you have studied the Bible, especially the New Testament, and done a detailed comparison between Christians and their activities, and the Bible, right?

So, what is it that makes a person a Christian?

Cool

Today's 'Christianity' is an abominable hybrid of paganism which breeds on the emotions of people. Do you disagree?



In law silence is generally considered as agreement.

So i take it that you agree ^^

How can I agree when you haven't defined a Christian? Bible Christianity is different than secular Christianity. You can't lump people together by one word.

Biblically speaking, paganism isn't Christianity. A pagan can be called a Christian all the way to Hell, but that doesn't make him a Christian.

Cool

I thought i did define what it means to be Christian.

I said "To be a Christian is to put Jesus and His teachings above ALL things. Especially above the traditions of man and of this world."

Not sure what 'secular Christianity' is. But there is only one type of Christianity. And that is to believe and do what Jesus said and taught.
Anything else is paganism disguised as Christianity.

And i agree, paganism isn't Christianity. And thats exactly why the majority of todays Christianity isn't Christianity at all seeing as 95% of all Christians celebrate the pagan festivals of Xmas and Easter and 99% celebrate birthdays. Just because people dont want to research the origins, in fear of losing their annual emotional fix in the process, doesnt make the practise non-pagan all of a sudden. That is hypocrisy at its finest.



and Christianity myth is based on other (pagan) myths (Osiris, Mitra etc.).  So what is your point?

All religious myths are 'pagan'.
1475  Other / Off-topic / Re: McDonald's Stock Analysis? on: February 04, 2019, 08:57:12 PM
What are everyone's thoughts on investing in McDonald's stock at current valuation? Might be a good global recessionary proof stock.

https://millionairemob.com/mcdonalds-stock-dividend/

MCD is a good stock.  I own some myself. 

Be careful about entering at these levels.

If we go past 2760 on S&P, we will have another leg to complete the wave 5 in this bull market.

If not, we are done for a few years, and we'll get a 40% haircut.

Unemployment is at historical lows, and that is one big red flag, a leading indicator for the upcoming bear market.


1476  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TODAY'S CHRISTIANITY IN THE WORLD on: February 04, 2019, 08:51:30 PM
It seems religious segregation is not helping the progress of the world. Many  leaders claim to be Christians but it's funny how greedy they are in reality. Some churches are also making matters worse. For instance some churches in the major cities are obviously for the rich in society only, from all intentions and indications, the less privileged are not welcomed. Honestly, If you don't have money, you are seen as a nuisance in those kind of churches believed to be for the elite in the society.  I thought christianity is about love.  

Christianity is all about separating naive and gullible from their money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_organizations
1477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Calling out Atheists on: February 03, 2019, 04:34:40 AM
atheist worldview has explanation just as theist worldview has explanations, the joke is both are logical and make sense

Atheism does not deal with the question of how our universe was created, religion and cosmology do.


Are you saying that atheists don't know and don't care, because they are too busy making money or something?

Cool

No, that is not what I am saying.  Read it again.

1478  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Calling out Atheists on: February 03, 2019, 04:32:22 AM
Who created god?

Humans.
1479  Other / Off-topic / Re: I Want to Pick a Generator to Survive Blackout, Help Me Pick One! on: February 02, 2019, 01:18:10 PM
One very important thing to consider is a shelf-life of a fuel. Gas has a short shelf life (about 6 months; up to a year if you add additives). On the other hand well stored diesel fuel can last for a decade or more. Diesel engine is more robust and reliable than Otto engine; but bulkier, louder and more expensive. Diesel can be challenging to start in extremely low temperatures.
LPG can be stored indefinitely; and can be used for both -LPG cooking stove and LPG generator (LPG generators are modified gas generators).
Hope that helps a little...

Gas is easier to obtain and has more uses.  Unless you convert all your equipment to diesel, you'll always need some gas around your property.

As for the storage, I had gasoline stored for 5 years with no issues.  If you have two tanks, you can rotate it and use it in your cars.

Just the other day, I was driving my diesel truck in a new city and could not find a gas station that would sell diesel.  I had this truck for 3 years and this is the second time I had this issue.  Never again diesel trucks or cars for me.  Every gas station sells gasoline.

As for diesel generators, you would need one with an electric heater (that would run from a battery) to warm it up in -10C or below temperatures.  Around 0C it should start ok as are your tractors.
1480  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Calling out Atheists on: February 02, 2019, 01:06:41 PM
atheist worldview has explanation just as theist worldview has explanations, the joke is both are logical and make sense

Atheism does not deal with the question of how our universe was created, religion and cosmology do.
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