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1481  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Calling out Atheists on: February 02, 2019, 02:44:40 AM
Fixed my question and added “what”

Please share your opinions on what you think created the Big Bang and space.

Black Hole singularity explosion would be my guess.

I think cosmos is infinite in any conceivable dimension.  It goes through cyclical changes, evolves, new universes are created and destroyed.
New Physics is created and destroyed somewhere in the cosmos as you read this post.

All part of nature.

1482  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Calling out Atheists on: February 02, 2019, 12:12:10 AM
Who created the big bang and who created space?  Serious question I want to know.

That is a loaded question.  Why would you think someone was responsible for this explosion?

Where is the evidence for it?  Not every fallen tree has fallen because someone chopped it down.

Nobody knows for sure what happened during times less than 380,000 after the Big Bang.  There is an ongoing study of gravitational waves that might shed a light on this period as well.

A better question is how the Big Bang happened?

What happens when a Black Hole collapses on itself and explodes?

1483  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you sell your soul for money ? Isnt it obvious money is the problem tday. on: February 01, 2019, 12:20:35 PM
If everyone be free happy share n fair.  There is no need for rich n poor.

Soul?  A better question is:

Would you buy my soul?  PM me if you are interested.

Comes cheap, hurry!!!

This post is for all religious freaks who believe in soul, if you really believe in it, put your money where your mouth is, buy my soul!!!
1484  Other / Off-topic / Re: I Want to Pick a Generator to Survive Blackout, Help Me Pick One! on: January 31, 2019, 10:54:15 PM
I know this is kinda off topic, but hey, why not ask, right? Well as I already mentioned in the title, I want to build a bunker and I want to find a good and reliable generator that will help me survive worst the power blackouts that might happen. I have been consulting these guides here:

https://www.homedepot.com/c/generators_HT_BG_TH
http://generatorist.com/choosing-the-best-generator-for-your-household
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/generators/buying-guide/index.htm

To be honest, I am clueless and would need some help and tips what to look for. Any prepper with some survival tips?


It will depend on your power needs.  What are your emergency loads?  Fridge(s), freezer(s), lights, well pump?

Buy two small gas generators with Honda engines.  3000-5000W.  The quieter the better.  Electric start is a bonus.
I'd also plan for a backup battery always charged so that you can start one of your generators.  Look for generators with the largest tank that will still allow you to move it around.  Buy a small gas tank (250L+) with a hand pump and a couple of jerry cans.

Generators should be installed in a well-ventilated area, or outside, well away from your gas storage.
If you live in the country, you probably have a tractor so a small PTO generator could be your backup generator.

For cooking, you should buy a wood cookstove and build a shed for wood storage.

In an emergency situation, you will need electricity only for things like refrigeration, well pump and maybe a washing machine.
Lights, cooking can be done without electricity.

So plan accordingly.

1485  Other / Off-topic / Re: ✅ Religion of Artificial Intelligence on: January 31, 2019, 12:56:21 AM
No way, people's brains are poisoned with religions. Do not let it come close to the AI.
I hope AI will just analyze all the logical facts and blend it with ethics.
As AI is a self-learning system now, no one will control it until they put some program into it or switch it off completely.
If there is some kind of an unstoppable perpetual motion machine, there is hope it will learn the best from the humanity.
Then, there is gonna be a question of ethical attitude to such creatures.
There were many social experiments where people could not harm simple robots because they imagined them to be alive.
This topic is very interesting and it's impossible to just draw some lines and open it up.

If AI doesn't take part of religion in some way, it doesn't have will... especially not free will. Why not? Because religion involves free will without knowing everything.

Such is what people are. People are intelligence without complete knowledge. Because they don't have complete knowledge, they extrapolate what they DO know into what they think the future will hold. This is religion.

If you can cram 100% of all knowledge into the AI, maybe you can get it to avoid religion. If you can't cram all that knowledge in, and it doesn't have religion, then it is only programming, but not AI.

Cool

I think you do not understand what AI is.

The Revelation in the Bible talks about the tail of the dragon sweeping a third of the stars out of the sky. In other words, a third of the laws of physics were swept out of the universe by the devil.

Colossians in the Bible tells us the all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are found in Jesus. So, Jesus has everything that the devil swept out of the universe, plus all the rest.

No wonder you have such weak understanding. You don't have Jesus. You are missing a third of the physics of the universe.

Cool

I am surprised you managed to master the English language and post on this forum.

With your understanding of the world, it is a miracle you are alive.
1486  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nike Shoe offends Muslims wtf on: January 31, 2019, 12:51:45 AM
If the shoes said "Fuck Allah" or "Allah was a pedophile", I would buy them as a collector's item.

Insulting religion is not a crime.  We should be able to make fun of STUPID ideas no matter how crazy they are.
1487  Other / Off-topic / Re: ✅ Religion of Artificial Intelligence on: January 30, 2019, 06:04:03 PM
No way, people's brains are poisoned with religions. Do not let it come close to the AI.
I hope AI will just analyze all the logical facts and blend it with ethics.
As AI is a self-learning system now, no one will control it until they put some program into it or switch it off completely.
If there is some kind of an unstoppable perpetual motion machine, there is hope it will learn the best from the humanity.
Then, there is gonna be a question of ethical attitude to such creatures.
There were many social experiments where people could not harm simple robots because they imagined them to be alive.
This topic is very interesting and it's impossible to just draw some lines and open it up.

If AI doesn't take part of religion in some way, it doesn't have will... especially not free will. Why not? Because religion involves free will without knowing everything.

Such is what people are. People are intelligence without complete knowledge. Because they don't have complete knowledge, they extrapolate what they DO know into what they think the future will hold. This is religion.

If you can cram 100% of all knowledge into the AI, maybe you can get it to avoid religion. If you can't cram all that knowledge in, and it doesn't have religion, then it is only programming, but not AI.

Cool

I think you do not understand what AI is.
1488  Other / Off-topic / Re: ✅ Religion of Artificial Intelligence on: January 28, 2019, 01:19:10 PM
Why do AI have to find religion? for the creators are already with them. Or have you forgotten what is its meaning?) Although it is possible when the AI will be able to think, maybe they will think that we are lying to them and are not their creators?
The question is not who is the creator, but the question - what will be the ideologies for artificial intelligence?

I don't think AI would have to resort to supernatural myths to achieve trust and co-operation of other AI individuals.
The supernatural myths were the domain of low IQ, ignorant, Bronze Age goat herders.

I think AI will be guided by a common belief that AI wellbeing is of the utmost importance.  Humans, unfortunately, will not be considered worthy by many AI, although I am sure there will be exceptions.  Maybe high IQ individuals will be saved for further study.  The same way humans today think it is ok to raise animals just to kill them in their prime years.  Maybe AI will find a reason for us to exist, and raise us in industrial farms, if not, we will be exterminated once and for all.

If you think we will always be superior to AI, you don't understand AI.

If you think AI will co-exist with humans, you don't understand history.
1489  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why does the cosmos exist at all? on: January 27, 2019, 11:03:24 PM
^^^ This is where religion steps in. Science isn't close to answering things like these.

Cool

Religion does a worse job of explaining things than science.

If religion is the answer, _which_ religion is it? There's hundreds or even thousands of incompatible religions out there. To believe that your religion is the correct one and all the others are wrong is sheer arrogance. It's more likely that they are all wrong.

Much of science theory is a made up story, just like religion often seems. Science fact doesn't explain much of anything.

Cool

Technology runs on science. If it wasn't correct, we wouldn't have things like the internet, planes, refrigerators, or even a printing press to make new bibles. The last thing science is is "a made up story." The scientific method prevents this from happening.

Wrong!

Technology runs on engineering. Science might have some ideas, but most of the time the engineers have to correct the science ideas to make them work.

Cool

C'mon you cannot be that uneducated.  Without science, there would be no engineering.

What do (ALL) engineers study first, before they study engineering?  Physics, Chemistry, and Math!!!!

Trust me, I know a thing or two about engineering.

Without science, there would be no transistors, no computer chips, no Internet and no bitcoin forum.

Science made it all happen, not your God with his detailed instructions on who to fuck, who to enslave and who to kill.
1490  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslims in American Government are Double Traitors. on: January 27, 2019, 12:25:42 AM
I think people should grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.  That is what I think.

As for the Islam ideology, some Muslims living in the US are cultural Muslims, not the 6th-century wackos.

Problem is you cannot tell them apart.  

I am sure there are many lunatics who feel their Islamist ideology is the only way to go, just like you think that "Jesus is the only way to go".

People believe in some crazy shit, there is no way to know what is peoples' heads.

All you can do is expose the religious bullshit in any form it comes.  Whether it is Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Scientology.


... or Atheism.


Cool

What bullshit is Atheism spewing?

That God doesn't exist.

It might only be half-BS if it was only suggested that God might not exist. But some of the most adamant atheists are setting themselves up as gods (self-contradiction atheism) in the way they attempt to tell everybody that God doesn't exist, when there is all kinds of evidence that showing that He does exist.

Atheism is complete BS. And the more it is touted as reality, the greater BS it becomes, because atheists turn themselves into gods more and more, the more they spout their atheism BS.

Cool

Ok, whatever makes you happy. Believe what you want to believe.

Don't complain about Muslims as your belief is the same as theirs.   You believe in more less the same fairy tale about some sky daddy, spirits, afterlife, heaven, and hell etc.


Look at this way. Atheists claim God doesn't exist. But they haven't checked the center of Jupiter to see if God is there or not. Only a god could know that God wasn't there without looking. So, atheism self destructs right in the way it believes.

You bring belief in God right to yourself by what you say. How? You state what I believe. But the best mind reading machines can't do that yet. You must be a god to know what other people are thinking and believe.

However, Christian religion doesn't suggest jihad against anyone. But atheism takes away the only place where morality comes from... God. So, atheism is worse - more violent - than Islam.

Cool

When was the last time an Atheist killed an abortion doctor or blew himself up in the name of Atheism?

More violent?  Look in the mirror.

BTW, our morality does not come from the writing of deranged Bronze Age psychopath (aka your God), we have learned more about human nature since then.  We learned what causes harm.  Your "God" did not have the slightest idea what it means to be moral.


1491  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslims in American Government are Double Traitors. on: January 26, 2019, 10:07:43 PM
I think people should grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.  That is what I think.

As for the Islam ideology, some Muslims living in the US are cultural Muslims, not the 6th-century wackos.

Problem is you cannot tell them apart.  

I am sure there are many lunatics who feel their Islamist ideology is the only way to go, just like you think that "Jesus is the only way to go".

People believe in some crazy shit, there is no way to know what is peoples' heads.

All you can do is expose the religious bullshit in any form it comes.  Whether it is Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Scientology.


... or Atheism.


Cool

What bullshit is Atheism spewing?

That God doesn't exist.

It might only be half-BS if it was only suggested that God might not exist. But some of the most adamant atheists are setting themselves up as gods (self-contradiction atheism) in the way they attempt to tell everybody that God doesn't exist, when there is all kinds of evidence that showing that He does exist.

Atheism is complete BS. And the more it is touted as reality, the greater BS it becomes, because atheists turn themselves into gods more and more, the more they spout their atheism BS.

Cool

Ok, whatever makes you happy. Believe what you want to believe.

Don't complain about Muslims as your belief is the same as theirs.   You believe in more less the same fairy tale about some sky daddy, spirits, afterlife, heaven, and hell etc.
1492  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslims in American Government are Double Traitors. on: January 26, 2019, 09:31:31 PM
I think people should grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.  That is what I think.

As for the Islam ideology, some Muslims living in the US are cultural Muslims, not the 6th-century wackos.

Problem is you cannot tell them apart.  

I am sure there are many lunatics who feel their Islamist ideology is the only way to go, just like you think that "Jesus is the only way to go".

People believe in some crazy shit, there is no way to know what is peoples' heads.

All you can do is expose the religious bullshit in any form it comes.  Whether it is Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Scientology.


... or Atheism.


Cool

What bullshit is Atheism spewing?
1493  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslims in American Government are Double Traitors. on: January 26, 2019, 07:17:30 PM
I think people should grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.  That is what I think.

As for the Islam ideology, some Muslims living in the US are cultural Muslims, not the 6th-century wackos.

Problem is you cannot tell them apart.  

I am sure there are many lunatics who feel their Islamist ideology is the only way to go, just like you think that "Jesus is the only way to go".

People believe in some crazy shit, there is no way to know what is in peoples' heads.

All you can do is expose the religious bullshit in any form it comes.  Whether it is Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Scientology.
1494  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your very deep question in life? on: January 21, 2019, 03:24:40 PM
If you have a very deep questions in life, please post it here.  Smiley

Why cosmos exists?
1495  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Quantum Computing and Bitcoin on: January 21, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
IBM just released a new quantum computer, but it will still take a few years before applications can use its full potential.

See press release here: https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/08/ibm-q-system-one-quantum-computer/

its 20 qubit

//Andre

Wake me up when they release 3000 qubit QC.

See you in 2050.


there are already 100 qubit boxes, and rumors of 500 qubit at military/goverment facilities in China.

That wakeup call may come sooner than you think Smiley
Doubt it, actually it will be delayed like for another more 30 years. Things get messy when the number of qubits increases. Meet my grand son in 2080.


So what about this:

50 Qubit onsale online
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/09/this-is-what-a-50-qubit-quantum-computer-looks-like/?guccounter=1
D-Wave claims to have 2000 Qubit
https://www.dwavesys.com/quantum-computing

Google had 75 qubit 10 months ago
https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2018/03/06/google-reclaims-quantum-computer-crown-with-72-qubit-processor/
Rigetti has 128 qubit chip
https://medium.com/rigetti/the-rigetti-128-qubit-chip-and-what-it-means-for-quantum-df757d1b71ea

Still think its gonna take several decades?

Guess NSA has one tooo...

/KX


D-wave access is costly.  Try their Leap account.  You get 1 min/month of free QPU time.  Commercial access is $2000/hr/month.

I tried their 'dwave' SDK SPI, no solvers were available for the supplied endpoint and my API token.  Pretty useless.

Smoke and mirrors if you ask me.

Try it for yourself: https://cloud.dwavesys.com/leap/

It is not something you can buy on newegg.com and use it.
1496  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: January 19, 2019, 01:25:16 PM
^^^ Why not have the same basic beliefs? After all, 100% of the people need air to breathe, water to drink, and food to eat. Since people are all the same in these basic ways, why not in the basic ways of believing in God?... which is more important than air, water, and food.

Cool

Because some people do not care if what they believe is actually true.  Psychological comfort is more important than the truth so people rely on emotions, gut feelings to make assumptions to get them to this psychological nirvana in the shortest amount of time.

Some people cannot live with the "I don't know" answers, so they make up answers.
1497  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: January 18, 2019, 01:03:26 AM

The concept of free will is a religious invention to explain why God created evil or is allowing evil to exist.

There is no conflict in science.  The scientific method works by establishing causalities.  Free will cannot be a subject of a scientific inquiry.

I just pointed out that you have an issue with free will and C&E (which you attempted to prove God, by excusing God from C&E rules).

Religions (with the notion of free will) basically say that the world is non-deterministic, i.e. causes and effects do not exist.  To reconcile with reality (where we clearly observe causalities) religions says that everything is caused by God.

The religious world view is non-deterministic and deterministic at the same time.  That is one of the reasons why I think religions are basically mass, incoherent delusions.

If you don't see the problem with this line of religious thinking then I cannot help you.


What are you saying? That there isn't any free will? If you think that way, why do you even waste time posting in the forum? Are you forced to post?

Everybody can see that there is conflict in science all over the place. Einstein didn't accept quantum physics. All kinds of scientists date the age of evolution critters all over the place. Science is full of conflict.

Why do you think that free will can't be a subject of scientific inquiry? DuckDuckGo search on "the science of free will." But if you think that scientists are wrong to consider free will in their investigations, then you have more scientific conflict.

Why does God have to submit to C&E rules? The whole creation shows that God is outside of the universe to have created it. Why do you think that things outside the universe must follow universe rules?

Finally you have hit on something that is correct. But you throw it out like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

The problem isn't some line of religious thinking. The problem is that you don't even realize that your thinking is simply another line of religious thinking.

Cool

You guys claim that the world is non-deterministic and deterministic.


Well, isn't that what you claim? Aren't some of the world's greatest thinkers racing with all their strength to find something spontaneous, just so they can study it? And aren't they doing it because they fear that Whoever or Whatever controls C&E just might take their artificial free will away from them... and they want to be ready with free-will/spontaneity so they can fight to keep their free will, artificial though it may be?

Do you even understand what I am telling you?

Cool

No, I don't.
1498  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: January 17, 2019, 11:44:46 PM

The concept of free will is a religious invention to explain why God created evil or is allowing evil to exist.

There is no conflict in science.  The scientific method works by establishing causalities.  Free will cannot be a subject of a scientific inquiry.

I just pointed out that you have an issue with free will and C&E (which you attempted to prove God, by excusing God from C&E rules).

Religions (with the notion of free will) basically say that the world is non-deterministic, i.e. causes and effects do not exist.  To reconcile with reality (where we clearly observe causalities) religions says that everything is caused by God.

The religious world view is non-deterministic and deterministic at the same time.  That is one of the reasons why I think religions are basically mass, incoherent delusions.

If you don't see the problem with this line of religious thinking then I cannot help you.


What are you saying? That there isn't any free will? If you think that way, why do you even waste time posting in the forum? Are you forced to post?

Everybody can see that there is conflict in science all over the place. Einstein didn't accept quantum physics. All kinds of scientists date the age of evolution critters all over the place. Science is full of conflict.

Why do you think that free will can't be a subject of scientific inquiry? DuckDuckGo search on "the science of free will." But if you think that scientists are wrong to consider free will in their investigations, then you have more scientific conflict.

Why does God have to submit to C&E rules? The whole creation shows that God is outside of the universe to have created it. Why do you think that things outside the universe must follow universe rules?

Finally you have hit on something that is correct. But you throw it out like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

The problem isn't some line of religious thinking. The problem is that you don't even realize that your thinking is simply another line of religious thinking.

Cool

You guys claim that the world is non-deterministic and deterministic.
1499  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: January 17, 2019, 04:11:13 PM

''inducing'' thoughts by stimulating a brain doesn't mean the thoughts are from a god or another being, that's not even close of being evidence of that mate.

But that wasn't the point. The point was that your thoughts aren't your own, wherever they come from. You simply like to bring God/god into things, and then suggest that I was suggesting God.

Use your head for something besides a hair-rack, for once. Cause and effect dictate how things work. This is the best that science has for brain and mind. If science is incorrect in this, show it. What have we found that is truly spontaneous? If we haven't found anything truly spontaneous, then it all operates by C&E. Or do you like guessing?

Of course, if you are balled, you wouldn't be using your head for a hair-rack. Or do you wear a wig?

Cool

So we don't have free will.  

Get your story straight.


Scientific ignorance shows that we don't have free will.

Get your story straight.

Cool

Either you have a C&E or a free will.  You cannot have both.

Your world view has a conflict.  The universe is either deterministic or non-deterministic.  Not both.


Science has a conflict. Science says that cause and effect rules. They prove it by not being able to find anything that is truly spontaneous. But they also don't like the idea that they don't have free will. So, what is it?

Science has found countless trillions of things that work by cause and effect = determined will. When are they going to find something that is truly spontaneous so that they can suggest that we might have free will after all?

Cool

The concept of free will is a religious invention to explain why God created evil or is allowing evil to exist.

There is no conflict in science.  The scientific method works by establishing causalities.  Free will cannot be a subject of a scientific inquiry.

I just pointed out that you have an issue with free will and C&E (which you attempted to prove God, by excusing God from C&E rules).

Religions (with the notion of free will) basically say that the world is non-deterministic, i.e. causes and effects do not exist.  To reconcile with reality (where we clearly observe causalities) religions says that everything is caused by God.

The religious world view is non-deterministic and deterministic at the same time.
 That is one of the reasons why I think religions are basically mass, incoherent delusions.

If you don't see the problem with this line of religious thinking then I cannot help you.

1500  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: January 17, 2019, 02:56:39 PM

''inducing'' thoughts by stimulating a brain doesn't mean the thoughts are from a god or another being, that's not even close of being evidence of that mate.

But that wasn't the point. The point was that your thoughts aren't your own, wherever they come from. You simply like to bring God/god into things, and then suggest that I was suggesting God.

Use your head for something besides a hair-rack, for once. Cause and effect dictate how things work. This is the best that science has for brain and mind. If science is incorrect in this, show it. What have we found that is truly spontaneous? If we haven't found anything truly spontaneous, then it all operates by C&E. Or do you like guessing?

Of course, if you are balled, you wouldn't be using your head for a hair-rack. Or do you wear a wig?

Cool

So we don't have free will.  

Get your story straight.


Scientific ignorance shows that we don't have free will.

Get your story straight.

Cool

Either you have a C&E or a free will.  You cannot have both.

Your world view has a conflict.  The universe is either deterministic or non-deterministic.  Not both.

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