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2421  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 27, 2016, 11:53:32 AM
Best way for a steady income for me is a business. Any business online or a physical store. Gambling and trading is not a way to earn steady. You can have a steady income online if you are a freelancer for some kind of job like programmer or web developer. But in a simple task you won't earn stable because simple tasks are also boring to do everyday.

That is true. Gambling and Trading does not really offer a stable income most especially if the person doing it is just new in the field. However, in trading, the return would be very high if you just know what you are doing. But really people really differ from each other - there are people that feels comfortable working day job and some doing business. That is totally fine because after all, it would be impossible if all of us are businessmen or or all of are workers - there will be workers and there will be business people.
2422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: October 27, 2016, 11:44:08 AM
some gambling bitcoin sites allow loterry betting btw Wink
I know that but I usually do not play it, that is not entertaining for me and a waste of money. I wan't to achieve success in a slowly but sure way and I am willing to go through the right process.

Honestly, I am more having interest in doing parlay bets than lottery, a 1,000 odds with a good payout is like a lottery, but at least you will have fun capping games.
Yes, actually parlay bets are much much better than lottery since we can determine using our knowledge that which team would win, while lottery is pure luck, yes and we cannot actually hope of winning while with sports as soon as each sports gets settled we get nearer and nearer.
I am also fun of that and actually I won once in my life (as of now), and it give you more thrill when your team are winning and you are just like calculating again and again your payout win. Really a good experience, but I guess lottery are more bigger as you can win hundred of millions in lottery.

Lottery really have a very big jackpot price and you are a damn very lucky person if you win that even just once in your lifetime because as what they are saying: you have more chances of getting hit by a lightning than a chance of winning a lottery. Sports betting has more chance of winning but not as big as lottery winnings - I would rather go for sports betting than lottery though!
2423  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 27, 2016, 11:41:22 AM
Yes it is because there is no a permanent pattern on its pumping time or when it is a good time to buy. You must not let your emotions get over to you or else you will end losing. You must accept your mistake when you make a wrong move in trading.

I agree there is no pattern, especially in altcoin trading.  All this data reading and chart presentation are just reference but does not give you the next result of the coin price.  This is even made difficult by people who is known as whales becuause they are the one manipulationg the trading of the coin.
with a precision of reading charts and also the focus will make us successful. even in all the work, it is very important. focus, with that we can produce something in accordance with our wishes.

You are right iqlimasyadiqa, not just with trading is unpredictable job but all types of job. They are able to have the same issues and with trading.

It is necessary that you are going to always check the charts and updates of different types of alt coins that you bought or you want to bought.

But out of that losses it can lead you to become a professional trader someday.

i think the same as you. in every job, its all unpredictable and we have no clue to finished it. in trading, i think there is ok if you are not get profit in one day, but you can get profit in other day. as long as you don't give up and continue to trading, i believe that you will have many experience and you can have familiar with the market and you know what, you will become a real trader and you can easily predict the trends.
Experience would  really  be a  big  help  on your trading career   because  this  thing  would  sustain you and  mold you  to be a professional trader  for  longer runs and  you would actually made  succesful trades compare  on fail ones.  Predicting  prices  of  market  is the  most  difficult  thing on  trading thats  why  its   really  a hard  job thats why we should really search  up for  informations  regarding  on trends and  news  to a certain coin.
Definitely, and by learning every time you failed that would make your experience a worthy one.. Adjusting your errors will give you success in trading as it is continues learning process and you would be successful if you will also continue to educate yourself.

The risk is their but you can calculate it to trade on your favor.

In trading, you either win or learn - and if you just keep on losing trades without learning it, then better you stop trading already because what you need to have a winning trade is a solid knowledge and skills about fundamental and technical aspect of trading crypto currencies. You are right to always educate self about winning trades.
2424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: October 27, 2016, 11:38:42 AM
Well for some people gambling can be profitable in the long term and will make it as the source of their living only if they had goals to make it as long term investment by investing into bankroll casino's. But if you are thinking that you are going to make it as an ordinary gambler, then I am pretty sure that it is not going to be a successful decision to make it as long term source.

If you are an ordinary gambler, you won't get profit from it... Just like in real life, if you are a gambler and just gamble on a casino, then you get poorer, but if you own a casino or inveting in it, you are sometimes called a gambling lord and you'll get rich, easy and quick... They are the ones who get rich in the long term, they have an income without even betting or participating...  Smiley
Exactly, because a good gamble should have all the factors to be successful and an ordinary gambler will already be having a hard time setting up a good bankroll as for it is the most important thing to have when you are making gambling as your career.

Professionals can win because this is their job like a main job.

That is correct. There are really professional gamblers out there that they play most of the time regularly and every single day because that is the source of their living. However, let this not blind new people to gambling that it is very profitable in the early stages until becoming professional gambler because there are lots of tests of strategies and losses to take before you will become a bonafide professional gambler.
2425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 24, 2016, 07:14:14 PM
The easiest way to make a profit from gambling is depositing 1 BTC on a reputable dice site, hit the MAX button and bet it with 50% winning chance. I've seen this many times on Primedice: Total Bets: 1; Total Wagered: 1 BTC; Total Profit: 1 BTC; Total Wins: 1; Total Losses: 0. And that's it. The guy rains around 0.05 in the chat and goes away happy.

Of course you can also lose your bet, but you were asking about "the easiest way".

That is right. Doing that is really a double edge knife - you either win big or lose big. The emotions is quit extreme, you will be very happy when you win that kind of amount most especially if you are not used to winning that amount, you will also very sad when losing that amount in an instant especially if that money is your long time savings.
2426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 24, 2016, 07:11:43 PM
It's depends on the attitude of the people towards gambling.. It can be addictive but once you already on the limit and hit the wall that's the time that you stop gambling.. but some people will still keep going and going until they win no matter how much lost they have.

I also think it depend on player's mind what is expectation he have and how much money he want to make, if anybody won decent in the beginning than it will be much hard for it to stop this easily, I think this kind of behavior is purely sickness when anybody find himself helpless in that kind situation.

I believe the main risk group for gambling addiction is lonely, depressed people who don't have any interesting activities in life, such people usually become addicted to drugs, booze or any other things. People with healthy relationships, lots of friends and hobbies usually have much better self-control and don't become gambling addicts.

You have a good point there mate! People that have a very active lifestyle and is surrounded with friends are not likely be addicted to gambling unless that person really want to play more than spending quality and fun time together with friends and loved ones. Those people that are bored are really prone to this addiction because they doesn't have any outlet.
2427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: October 24, 2016, 07:09:11 PM
The lottery means it's like a jackpot. Those who born lucky he will win this game. Yes, here the investment is small and the profit is too high. If you win the lottery, you will become rich in a single night. But you have to wait for a long time. And there is not sure that you will win the lottery once in your lifetime. So if you have trust in your luck play the lottery or else better stay away.

That is so correct there mate. In lottery, even if how much tickets are you going to buy, you are not guaranteed any winning at all and your chances of winning to lottery is very very slim - you are likely getting hit by lightning than winning the lottery jackpot. However, if you win that jackpot, then you are a heck of a very lucky person! Smiley
2428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: October 24, 2016, 07:05:34 PM
trading and gambling is same high risk high return
but iam play both them, in gambling iam prefered betting sport
in trading iam play pair bitcoin fiat money in huobi and btce
and pair bitcoin altcoin in poloniex bitrex c-cex cryptopia and yobit
Well, i think trading is not as riskier as gambling. trading is a lot safer and predictable(if you have the knowledge). if i'll be given a choice to choose between trading and gambling(to make money), i'll always go with trading.

that is correct because in trading, you have somewhat more of control with your bankroll compared to gambling where everything is base on pure luck (except to few ones like poker and similar games that needs skills in order to win big) In trading, when you just teach your self how to properly trade and execute them, you will have greater chances of earning than losing that's like of gambling.
2429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 24, 2016, 07:02:57 PM
Loosing big money from gambling yesterday i lose everything in gambling and i just want to bring it back when i have luck im going to wait for my next payment on my signature campaign then im going bakc to gambling wbsite where id lose so much money maybe luck will be on my side hoping so.
Sorry for your loss, but i don't think you should gamble again to get back your losses, you'll lose even more. believe me i've gambled a lot and i used to think like you, in end the result used to be the same.(loss)
This is a bad move I think. I know what you are thinking now, You thinking is where you lost your money there only you should get back is it right. But this is very risk you have a chance to lose some more money on your next bet. So my suggestion is to take your signature money and do other things like trading or any other work and gets back your lose. This is the proper way to earn money. If you do gambling means again, i think you will end with the big loss.

That is so true. That is really one of the big problems of gamblers out there, they tend to chase their losses to the point that they will be losing more than they planned for. And the chain keeps coming in and then it will lead to gambling addiction and may even lead to messing ones life and relationship with loved-ones.
2430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: October 24, 2016, 06:33:42 PM
I adore slot games in real life too that is the reason I often visit my local casinos as well. I prefer to play on slots instead of other games even in online casino as well along together with sports betting. Slots are for someone people boring activity but for me like few others it is fun and joy. I often make money in physical slot machines.

I respect that mate. It only shows that it really depends on each individual's preferences and comfort as to whether or not play with slot games. There are really people like you that does really good in slots but we should realize that there are majority of people are really losing money through slots machine out there.
2431  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 24, 2016, 06:31:36 PM
really unpredictable, sometimes we have to take a high risk to benefit, usually I always wait for the price is very low, but I think it seems difficult to make a profit, though I certainly get a moment when it can get high profits.

My method, patiently waiting for the price, when I stuck, backup, when prices are rising, I do not get too greedy to sell at high prices. but try to at least I did not get the loss.
Tradings are one of the biggest mistakes you can make because we all know what will happen to the bitcoin when we are not trading and that is cause lots of people quit
tradings because it is to hard to do.

Basically, when there are people buy on certain bitcoin price and majority of them just hold bitcoins, the price will stay on that price they bought it unless there will be other investors or ordinary people that will gonna buy bitcoins and actively trade them to either dollar or other altcoins - then the price of bitcoins will regularly goes up or down.
2432  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 24, 2016, 06:29:01 PM
Investing it in a gambling site is a good investment if they offer investments in short term you might lose some but in the long term the house always wins.

Take it from the professional...  Cheesy I think that's the best way to make money in gambling site, not to play against the house but to invest with the house. There are gamblers who prefer to invest in gambling site instead of playing, sometimes they are just there to watch and cheer if they don't like or feel like betting.
you can see most of them inside the gambling chat they actively helping the players guiding them hope the game works so player will be entertained and keep playing so their investment will grow little by little with their little help to attract more gamblers.

It does makes perfect sense. In offline or brick and mortar casinos, they even treat shark players to free 5 star hotel accommodations with all its amenities and  give bigger bonuses with one real purpose - to entice other players that are not really good in gambling and in the process, the casinos will get more profit than what they have spent for those few sharks.
2433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 24, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
majority is playing gambling Man
but i can see in bitcointalk forum user name girl and woman play too
and my city muc is girl and woman play gambling too in toto and bet sport

My observation is that, most of these girls that are playing or gambling online are not really active in here - bitcointalk forum. They just go straight to gambling casino sites and play and they prefer to have chit chat in those casino chatrooms where they get instant reply from other players compared to forum where we only normally read through threads, message, and waiting for reply.
2434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 24, 2016, 06:22:37 PM
no safe methods on gambling i guess all strategy or trick will not work
all depend on our lucky  although sometimes the strategy give us some winning chances
yes that is a fact that there is no safe method of gambling, but you can minimize your risk of loosing money, if you make limited your wining and loosing money.

That is true but without a really good strategy, pre planned bettings, building many sessions, proper bankroll management, discipline, and emotional stamina, you will never win against the house edge of every single casino. Unless, you are like a very good and very lucky professional gamblers out there!
2435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: October 24, 2016, 06:20:30 PM
I have knowledge about dice games. I mean I have experience on dice sites more but I do not bet my money to get the money I only play for entertainment and even for that I do not waste much of money ut when I have remained a few bits n any of my wallet then I play with them and sometimes I play with the bonus from the sites.
That's good for you to play dice only for fun, you can never win doing it in the long run due to the house advantage,I have luck in dice before but that was just a temporary win and not I just quit doing it for the money, sometimes i just bet like a max or 0.05 in a week just to have fun a little.

That is really the best thing to do - to only gambler or this one play dice game for fun. Just make sure that you set a limitation before you even start playing - limitation of potential losses and potential winning. Follow and stick to your limitations or plan no matter what happened so that you will not end up miserable.
2436  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 24, 2016, 06:18:04 PM
the best investment gambling site is moneypot,
much gambling site use service moneypot
another moneypot maybe you can try in crypto-game net or bitves pliko, because much gambler playing in there

I guess it would be safer to at least invest to couple credible casinos out there that accepts investment for us than sticking to one gambling/casino site. This way, we will always have a fallback in any case that one of these casinos go offline or shutdown its operation for any other reasons or through fortuitous event.
2437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 24, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
to me if you really want to quit gambling then you should involve yourself in such constructive activities where you do not feel the need to start gambling again.

This would  only be the next step but  we should consider  to do the first step  and thats  being  willing to yourself  on  quiting gambling for good because no matter how  you  intend to plan on joining  other  hobies or activities  and   you are not willing to  quit then for sure it would be still useless.

willingness is not only the first step that is also the number one rule in quitting gambling , getting your will on quitting some thing that you are addicted is the first thing that you really needed to do . you must be willing as well to do some thing in order to distract yourself from getting into gambling such as the things that was mentioned above which is other hobbies or activities .

This is true! That willingness to finally quit gambling is your fuel is freeing yourself from gambling. The rest of the reasons and actions will follow but your innermost willingness to quit from gambling is the first step to take. Then, you gradually stop slowly and regularly so that you will be building up that habit and before you knew it, you are already free from gambling.! Smiley
2438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 24, 2016, 06:13:05 PM
staying away from gambling is really hard thing to do as gambling addiction is often very strong one, base of staying away is to don't think about it and don't try to gamble at all

For me that is going to be an easy thing if you have the will power and willingness to quit gambling for real. And the most easiest way to do is to focus more with other things so that your attention that is being caught by gambling will be exerted into other important things. Just to have quality time with your family so that you will forget gambling for real.

Correct. The more you spend your precious time with other things that are worth doing and by just even realizing this, you will have more chances to finally quit gambling. Because it takes change to change. If you remain static and still betting regularly, you will not be able to stay away from gambling - that is the hard and cold fact!.
2439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 24, 2016, 06:10:47 PM
probably it not, is something I enjoy is exciting. if some day I become a rich guy probably I will not stop playing. but also  will start playing less compared to the past.  Grin
We will be rich if that is our dream and we are working for it, staying is gambling is good if your pure intention is just to only have fun on it. But this time you need to be careful as you are a rich guy and you have so much to lose, be responsible all the time.

That is good advice to be responsible enough in betting because if you continue play on and chasing losses after losses, then before you knew it, you have lost all of your hard earned bakroll. That is really sad that there are really situations like these that are really happening from time to time. Just play for fun and only use money that you can afford to lose without even thinking of chasing them at all.
2440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 24, 2016, 06:07:26 PM
True, it will be become wrong if your family became affected in your addiction in gambling. But once you know how to manage money and your self and you know how to control your greediness. I think there will be no problem at all.

How would you control yourself if you start losing all your money,addiction is a real problem,you will be addicted automatically,you will win in the beggining and those small winnings will tempt you to wage more and then you will a lose big amount and after that you will try to recover the loss and that is when gambling turns from entertainment to a problem. 

Not all people get addicted, many people understand that gambling is entertainment and not a method to earn money, so they don't chase profit and don't wager more than they can afford to lose.

Yes, you are correct there mate. There are just quite a few out there that really hooked to and get very addicted to gambling - I said "very" because they play beyond normal people. That is not really good because these people really mess up life and they just missed many good things in life because they spend most of their time, money, and effort to gambling.
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