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1421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 11, 2017, 07:35:59 PM
Before gambling, make sure you can properly remember the risk will be, lose. Are you ready for lose? because winning is hope every gamblers.

Investing is uncertain right now. Because what we worry about is the site eventually becomes a scam, as alot has happened before. Should keep in wallet, or if you are more interested in gambling then set limits on profit and lose.

To compare investing the risk is more in gambling. If you lose money in investing also no problem but don't invest in gambling. If you don't have luck, you can not make a single penny in this gambling. But I you use your brain and do some research and invest your money in the good site you can get regular income in investing. But this is also you should be ready for anything otherwise you can not make money in any business.

gambling is very risky compared to investing however, the latter can be riskier if you are not doing any research and study the company - because they might be a scam company and eats up all of your hard earned money.
1422  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: August 11, 2017, 07:33:05 PM
Trade is a very predictable job, unlike gambling, and with the right approach it is possible to make money all the time, but this requires a lot of time and patience.

Yes trading is very very predictable one.If you have some basic knowledge about bitcoin means you can easily predict the trading .In gambling we can't guess whether we loss or win .But here it's not such condition will come.By trading itself you can earn lot of money.
if you know how to maximize your opportunities trading can give you a huge earnings for sure, but its really hard to say that we can assess correctly
from time to time there also some condition that affects the movements of the current trade so better to understand it all before entering this investment.

when we are a skillful trader, we are most likely will be having some more winning trades than losing trades. There are many factors and strategies out there to master and one of it is controlling our emotions.
1423  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 11, 2017, 07:30:33 PM
The path to freedom, is not a straight line and often requires navigation between different monetization strategies. If you have a specific and in-depth expertise, like programming, coaching, or consulting, then having a well written sales page on your own website can be rewarding. I do this with my web design, SEO, Social media, and coaching services.

What you've mentioned are a high paying job and that is one the demands nowadays but I can tell you that we do not need to do things that is not based on our passion because even if in our small way we can still make money to have a steady income. Like for me, I am not good in programming or does not posses in any of what you've mentioned but I believe with my passion in trading I can make a progress into my life and reach my dreams.

Make sense, I am also into trading and quite disappointed with my losing right now - but it really happens: sometimes we lose and sometimes we win.. However, I possess skills with programming and SEO and it is one of my main source of income right now..
Well it will make sense when you invest your bitcoin into right icos and altcoins maybe you just be panic to sell your coins thats why you lose but it can be minimize not unlike gambling that it will took all your bitcoin for real. It is to have an skill like that because you can offer it from freelance where they can hire you my descent job for now is bitcoin which is i trade it and i called it passive income not steady income because i earn everyday.

that is true with cryptocurrency trading, if we don't sell it, we are not in any lost yet. Active income are from our regular jobs or projects - these are things which it will not give you any income when you are not actively working on it. However, passive income is when you are earning even without your  participation.
1424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 11, 2017, 02:52:12 PM
Because of an incredibly pleasant feeling of winning. And because of the offense of defeat, which makes us try again until you win. It is difficult to get rid of these feelings, they make us addicted on gambling.

Not to mention that these casinos are capitalizing on human emotions - they tend to make the game looks very nice and appealing and giving the player all of the reasons to be happy.
1425  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: August 11, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

If that so, all traders will lost their money on trading. You're not perfectly right about your words Trading is unpredictable job. All traders are responsible on their own money if they actually lose it then they have not yet enough knowledge on trading. You must be wiser and you must control your feelings. In trading it is Ups to you whether you lose your money or not.
Even though trading is unpredictable job, its still alright for a person to try it because even though trading is risky, it is only all about the patience and also knowledge of the person to overcome all the challenges that he will encounter in trading. It is indeed ups and downs in trading but if you are a good trader, you can take advantage of those two opposite scenarios to make a lot of money.

Just start and once you get the hang of it, trading will somewhat be a second instinct to you and before you know it, you will be having more winning trades than losing one. You need to learn how to properly trade and execute your trading skills and handling emotion - there is no other way to practice but to start trading now.
Yep. In order to practice trading in the real crypto world, one needs to start trading with little investment.
We all know that a trader should have good command over emotions in order to take right decisions under pressure. Indeed, to check out your trading skills, you need to trade in reality.

and the when just starting out trading live or in real time, it is highly advisable to test your trading skills first by the help of the mentor or based on your research - then with regards to the bankroll, it is always idea to start with small if you are new to trading.
1426  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: August 11, 2017, 02:42:59 PM
Just, try to different types of investment. Although , this type of investment has high risk , In my personal experience it pay as promise and my investment returned within 26 days. (I initially invested $250 around 0.09btc and return it back) so,You will get guarantee high return (3.5%+ daily or 0.16% hourly) with cutting edges mining  instruments  https://futurecoins.io/?ref=abintl and best part you will withdrawal your principle after 24hrs and withdrawal thresholds only 0.0005 btc . please be careful, . these systems have done very well so far but keep in mind they are not proven over time and could be reverse  at any time in the future
From what I read it looks like what you are saying is about an HYIP program, I don't think that is a good idea you are suggesting to a man who has experience in trading to put his money into something that is not guaranteed. Yes they will say that they are giving 3.5% daily but how long will it last? From my personal experience you won't even get your money back. These are the sort of investments you want to avoid putting your money into because the chance of losing your money is quiet high rather than earn something from it.
Hyips are not recommended for the people who want some serious source of income because hyip is like legit site in the early few weeks of that site and it will turn into scam after at least a month. I have been through most of the hyips and that is what their pattern before they turn to scam or something really disappointed for a serious investor.
I have the same experience with HYIPs. They are no good for serious investors. Many cases are there when people have fallen victim to these sites. They are scam and I want to make all other investors aware of these HYIPs. Serious investors should simply follow common and basic methods of earning bitcoins and profits.
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Once it is too good to be true, then there is really very high chance that it is not true. That is why we must be very vigilant and closely guard our coins because in the advent of bitcoin popularity, bad people will do their best to scam others.
1427  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: August 11, 2017, 02:36:44 PM
Greetings!

While trading sometimes I drop back from my original plan. Such emotional decisions often bring loss cuz I tend to change orders on panic or when I mistakenly expect more potential income. How do you deal with that if you feel the same way?
Some times,investors get panic due to FOMO on seeing a coin's price rising fastly.At some ocassions,when our invested coin's price drops fastly,we get panic.If we had invested in a coin after analyzing the market fully and invesed in the most under valued coin,then we have no need to get panic as we know that our coin's price would surely rise.We should never follow the market blindly.otherwise,we would have to lose our investment due to FOMO.
Yep! That’s so bad and unwise if you are following market blindly. We all have our own brains and we should use them.
It is not always wise to be with the flow; sometimes we need be stay away from crowd to enjoy the huge profit. But investing into bitcoins is nothing unwise. I am suggesting my friends to go for more investments with bitcoins rather than focusing on any other investments also I am not suggesting trading bitcoins.

when it comes to trading, you should also go with the trend, where the heavy volume are going on. That is the best time to earn from the coin volatility. Although it is not that easy to determine when to buy and detect trend developing.
1428  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 11, 2017, 02:26:52 PM
You can learn a lot by trading small amounts, but you have to be aware that when you start investing larger amounts it will not be easy the same way.
If the market has low liquidity, large amounts of money can cause considerable market movements, for the upside or downside. Also, it is much easier to trade with small amounts than with large amounts, because your psychological side is not fully involved and tested to the limits when you do small trades.

in essence, trading with a small amount of many and trading with a big amount of money is just the same if we are just looking at the numbers and not the real value of it. The advantage of starting with small as we can take as many losses as we can before we can have some winning trades and learn how to find ways to have winning trades and rinse and repeat.
Actually trading with a small amount always better than a big amount, because our emotion when trading small amount very comfortable and not worry about the loss. I have tried split my funds 1 BTC to 10 parts and trading with 0.1 BTC until this money can earning profit 10-20% or loss all, however the profit from do that always high than I putting all 1 BTC/order.
Agree with that it is better to start with a small amount. You cant control your emotion and the coin that you trade as much as possible start with small amount in trading than big amount.

When you are just starting and you start with small bankroll, you will learn and at the same time is not going to be affected that much when you have some losing trades because the money is not that huge. However, there is nothing really wrong with starting big bankroll but the problem arises when emotions kick in - the amount of potential gains cannot equate the stress you are going through.
1429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: August 11, 2017, 12:25:59 PM
I am glad of how the adjustments was made ever since the transactions got faster.
I dont even feel the fees anymore when I am using electrum.
The good thing is you could adjust it more to the lower price until it is very low per kb. I dont really much care about the transaction time for I am not in a hurry.

That is right. In Eleectrum, I just set it to dynamic and have it 150% to the ideal transaction fee so that I will be sure that it will get through the soonest. But when I am not in a hurry, I will just get manually set to the daily suggested transaction fee base on bitcoinfees21co
1430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 11, 2017, 12:22:52 PM
No smart way at gambling except we can control our emotional
Example that if you lose don't double your bet if you lose again you will lose all your money

The smart way is to invest in a gambling site so that we can get profit from gambling site. If we keep on investing, we are going to get profit in the long term. I dont really see any other smarter way than this but atleast we can get money so instead of just playing casually it is better to invest in a gambling site

Yeah I agree. Do not bet against the casinos, bet against the gamblers. So just use your deposits to be part of the house.
There is a better chance of profits if you be part of the house than gambling in general. Gambling is -EV and that means
everytime you bet you lose more and more money as you go along the way.

investing to casinos is great but invest to the reputable ones and I suggest that you invest regularly because there comes happens when a lucky shark will win big and you will be on a negative profit but if you keep on investing you can cover those loses.
1431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 11, 2017, 12:18:46 PM
Gambling can not be profitable in the short or long term. They can only lead to a loss of funds if you try to earn or receive pleasure if you look at them as entertainment.

I agree and I think gambling should be kept as a mode of entertainment and not the mode of earning money. Thus the players would not  play in a serious manner and thus their losses will be minimum. If one thinks of gambling to be a mode of making money then they will get addicted to it and as soon as they lose some money they will try to win it back and thus they will continue to gamble.
Nobody is okay with losing his capital even in entertainment. I bet you can't also. In gambling either one is serious or ignorant, victory and defeat is just a matter of luck in fact and frequent loss is not welcomed by anyone. As far as its addiction is concerned, if someone keeps on doing something, that becomes his habit in no time and habits are difficult to push off certainly.

I think you are getting it all wrong - there cannot be any investment in an entertainment. If you are going to get entertained then there is a fees required. That is not an investment and you will not be getting it back in any form with or without interest. Gambling should be kept to a mode of entertainment and not as mode to earn money - that is all I was saying.

As far as I know we can invest in an entertainment - this time not a player but an investor with the casinos. There are also other forms of entertainment where we can invest to it as well - some bars, clubs, and the like.
1432  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 11, 2017, 12:15:44 PM
I would consider buying small alt coins and trying to sell on a 'double' .. you may get lucky quite a few times with a small amount as your stack won't move the market at all.

That strategy is fine but be cautious though in buying not so popular altcoins because exchanges might stop accepting deposit and withdrawals due to some technical issues - it is better to invest to top altcoins in cryptocurrency world.
1433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 11, 2017, 12:13:11 PM
There's nothing wrong in gambling unless it was banned or prohibited in your country, playing gambling should be for fun but if it will affect the financial status of the family then it can be wrong. Wr should know pur priority first.

The only thing wrong here is your point of view. If you think that you are only playing for fun then dont play at all because you are only going to waste your money. Simply try to go for android games which dont need any money at all, you dont even need to fear about losing any penny at all if you play this
Agree. People say if we gamble to make money it will only be a waste of money because there is no gap in the gamble to make money. Then what's the difference with gambling for fun? Is it gambling to have fun we will really get fun? Gambling but keep losing money is not fun at all.
Yeah, that is quite the difference. It is more on the mindset really. People who gamble and think they can profit from gambling are delusional and they will lose more money because they think they can get back what they lose by investing more money for their gambling "business." Which in truth will just drain their money. Compared to people who gamble for fun, who do not care if they lose their money. If they lose it, they forget about it and they just have fun with it, even in their minds the want to win they do not chase their losses.

Playing or gambling for fun and entertainment is enough and no need to play for profit because the risk is really high. If you do not have any money and want to gamble to have one, you are in the wrong spot.
1434  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 11, 2017, 01:32:59 AM
You can learn a lot by trading small amounts, but you have to be aware that when you start investing larger amounts it will not be easy the same way.
If the market has low liquidity, large amounts of money can cause considerable market movements, for the upside or downside. Also, it is much easier to trade with small amounts than with large amounts, because your psychological side is not fully involved and tested to the limits when you do small trades.

in essence, trading with a small amount of many and trading with a big amount of money is just the same if we are just looking at the numbers and not the real value of it. The advantage of starting with small as we can take as many losses as we can before we can have some winning trades and learn how to find ways to have winning trades and rinse and repeat.
1435  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: August 11, 2017, 01:28:45 AM
They are very fair right now Cheesy Bitcoin has been improved and its system is very good. We do not need to pay high fee anymore. Transactions look very fast. hope that we will even get the faster transaction after the november.
agree with you mate that transaction fee in bitcoin is fair enough, because we know that the transaction fee is based on the value of bitcoin also, and way back year ago when value of bitcoin is very small there is no transaction fee imposed but when it start to balloon its value and continuous adoption by lots of people the transaction fee was start to increase due to bulk transaction and it very congested that is why they add transaction fees for that.

Indeed! Bitcoin transaction fee is fair and where do we find transacting our money that has no fee even if we transact abroad and from any parts of the world? If you do that with fiat money, you will be having hard time and the transaction is quite way high than bitcoin.
1436  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: August 11, 2017, 01:24:59 AM
For more we can trade
With a trading kit can determine the benefits we want to get
And of course with the risk of loss also that can not be in the forecast
Trading is a nice place to make more money in digital currencies world but it won't be easy to makes money from this way
we have to can read candle chart on analisys technical and we have to read trend the price,
also we have to know skill for managing capital, taking target the profit and doing stop lost when the markets against our prediction
Include we have to take control feel greed and fear in trading.

Trading is really a good platform to earn more coins but it needs to be learned and gain trading skills that would allow you to have more winning trades versus losing one. Also, controlling emotions is essential if you really want to succeed at trading.
1437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: August 11, 2017, 01:21:11 AM
There is one strategy with which you can roll only once and it's a guaranteed win chance 80% amount max you win cashout. Second strategy 1% of total bankroll chance 1% roll 100 times you might win once. Last the 50% strategy if you are winning continue playing as soon as you lose twice in a row stop

nice strategy but there is really no guarantee at all due to randomness and house edge advantage rule. I am now playing just for fun and testing some strategies as well and currently doin good - I just want to gauge how long this would go and start from there. I advice to just play with money we can afford to lose and just play for fun and entertainment.
1438  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 11, 2017, 01:16:04 AM
The path to freedom, is not a straight line and often requires navigation between different monetization strategies. If you have a specific and in-depth expertise, like programming, coaching, or consulting, then having a well written sales page on your own website can be rewarding. I do this with my web design, SEO, Social media, and coaching services.

What you've mentioned are a high paying job and that is one the demands nowadays but I can tell you that we do not need to do things that is not based on our passion because even if in our small way we can still make money to have a steady income. Like for me, I am not good in programming or does not posses in any of what you've mentioned but I believe with my passion in trading I can make a progress into my life and reach my dreams.

Make sense, I am also into trading and quite disappointed with my losing right now - but it really happens: sometimes we lose and sometimes we win.. However, I possess skills with programming and SEO and it is one of my main source of income right now..
1439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 10, 2017, 06:03:48 AM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin

Gambling is not wrong. It is just for fun and entertainment.

Gambling away your salary or savings is wrong. Only make bets that you can afford to play with.

Yes, it is on our mentality thinking what we think about gambling. If we think gambling is a entertainment place, then we play games for enjoyment and entertainment. But if we think that gambling is just like our job, where we play and win money in everyday and feed our family and ourself then this think is wrong, not a gambling wrong.   




if we make a living from gambling, yes gambling is not wrong - let's be honest here, there are really few people out there that are doin good with gambling - they are prominent high rollers and we sometimes refer as sharks - they earn big out of gambling and for them gambling is not bad but a good vehicle to getting money for their consumption.
1440  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin transaction fees fair? on: August 10, 2017, 06:01:21 AM
Everyone wanted higher bitcoin price and we achieved this but another problem become transaction fees. When bitcoin's price was low, we had to pay also low fee and now when it rised, we have to pay high fee in bitcoins and plus that high fee is more higher with current price. Is this fair? The higher the price, the more money miners have with bitcoin exchange.
To my mind when price becomes high, we have to pay low fee and when it becomes low, than fee has to be high. To my mind it had to be done like this from the begining.
When it comes to bitcoin transaction fee charge, they are different percentage. There are some exchanges site that giving high fees and some's are low fee's of charge like example on  bittrex the transaction charge fee's was 0.001BTC while in yobit was 0.001BTC which is really shit. Bittrex is more better and popular than yobit but its insane, isn't?

With gambling sites, there are a few out there that never charges any transaction fees and you get every winning single coin you have because they handle the transaction fee for you and there is no charge at all.
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