Better not trust any platforms that requires KYC upon registration or in any investment. It is common even back then whereas projects often tend to manipulate nor pay bounty hunters but not most of them then those hunters would be their living proof of legitimacy, hence with their promotions on a project, they also didn't know that they're just being fooled, then comes right after such hideous activities such as stealing KYC's data and customers identity.

To all bounty hunters out there, better not trust other people's opinions, but rather search and investigate for yourself.

Why such irony? Even if such rules were to be made nor to be clarified for a pending new rule about such giveaways, like stompix have said, what would it do to the community? Maybe better try thinking of rules that regards with making merit giveaways, then have you think that it answers a problem? Or rather better ask first, is such problem do really exist? Other than ImThour's merit giveaway, what are other giveaways that you can say having a low bar to the standards of merit system?

TBH, I don't found any problems with the current giveaways by other users. And I also see that the users that giveaways merits with their programs or any other activities they require would not violate nor contradict the main reason why the forum implied merit system.

Furthermore, I still understand why you wanted this discussion to be tackled, and I guess it is because to prevent further newbies to rank up still being not worthy at all. But still, consider thinking about my previous questions.

The link and the thread are already locked and even the subjected OP already had apologized for his actions.

But then you're right, Merit Giveaways are fine if and only if the people to be merited are really that worth it and not just because they've copy and pasted the rules then saying that it was their favorite one. Better if the OP of that giveaway made a challenge where as all newbies must read all of the forum's rules and explain it with either 500 words or point certain ideas and explain it thoroughly - that would be a giveaway with a much sense. Also, there are a lot of users out there that giveaways merit but if the users replies with their recent good topics or replies that they think are worth to be merited. Which is also a good and fine idea.

Afterall, merit must only been given to newbies that one would think are worthy.


You've had a great point. But I think the issue is closed after the accused merit giveaway maker locked his thread. If the ideas and opinions have already met your queries, better lock this as well.

If you aren't knowledgeable enough in the crypto community especially with regards to DeFi, better not to engage nor look for upcoming and newly made projects out there. If you were old enough in this forum, you might remember nor experienced being scam with a lot of bounties back then tha published so many fake updates and statistics that even and almost all of its participants and investors are fooled. Same as on some DeFi projects, better know if one is legit but knowing such takes too much time and effort, and not based on their updates alone.

If you want to be the first to grasp the opportunity, better know as well that you can be the first to grasp the risk and the danger with engaging on certain projects. Being updated isn't just because we searched nor there's a community that tells us which and what are legit and should be invested. Being updated is because we took so many time that we research thoroughly first before committing.

I wouldn't bother myself to try an account on a new and unpublished/unfinished website. Are there no other easy options on signing up? Roobet and even other gambling platforms does have option on logging in to your steam or google account, hence I see no problem if and only if those options are just an alternative and not their main log in pre-requisite. And if TimeTeller is right about limiting the users onto signing in their steam and/or google accounts, then we should warn others not to promote nor engage with witch.gg as it performs too much risk than the positive ones.


By playing atleast 25$ as being deposited of being the minimum amount to be withdrawn? 25$ is too huge with either as a primary deposit or being a minimum amount of withdrawal.

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I guess we must wait for the team of witch.gg to clarify each and everyloophole they have with their system and their announcement in the forum as well. Hope that they could clarify ASAP, and the OP must buy Copper Member to be atleast a much trustworthy user and not just a dummy endorser.

Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665309;sa=summary
Current amount of Posts (Including this one): 1951
SegWit BTC address for payouts: to be updated
EARNED merit in the last 120 days: 79

Hoping to be part of this wonderful campaign. Proud to say that I am versatile in posting on a lot of boards.. I'll update everything upon the acceptance of my application. Thanks, Hhampuz!

But if the OP would post their intentions nor any background with regards to their current project, then it fits right in this board. But yeah, hiring certain people with no further clues must be included in the Services section for a faster and much easier hiring procedure.

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Hiring developers would be hard if you wouldn't verify nor show us the proofs of your legitimacy or work. And even developers might have a hard time trusting if you cannot provide publicly in the forum any of the ideas behind your project. They  might be good at this certain coding or had experienced in this kind of aspect, but maybe your idea is too different that they can't manage to make something with it. Hence, better let us know what's with the project. No one's gonna steal it at all and your post would even be a proof that the idea was first made by yours (if and only if it really was first yours)

Lol those threads where created back then in 2016 and it is already a warning to the BetBTC in the forum. I didn't think they've really manage to learn nor to respect the forum rules at all. If the BetBTC issue had already been clarified and close a long time ago, why do they make and keep making noises with the ban appeal now?

I think the management must ban/auto-ban any users that promotes nor advertise the use of BetBTC. This ban appeal and the past accusations had already been disrespected the forum and its rules for the nth time and it wouldn't be rude if any users that deals promotes it must be banned.

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It's too hilarious and ridiculous that you've appealed the 14-day ban. You could've waited for it yet you didnt. You even manage to make notice outside the meta first before taking the appeal here, in which either of those are still prohibited and a pure obvious mistake. I don't see any future again for the BetBTC here in the forum. May you learn your lessons "Since 2014"

I'm a little confuse with the contradiction of your first paragraph with your last questions, as you've mentioned an article stating such events but still managed to doubt its existence and legitimacy. But yeah, IMO, I think they really are just fooling with XMR. Though if they really managed to pull off and make their own tool to know all XMR transactions, it wouldn't just be a risk to the users, but rather to the main XMR crypto itself. Their system and uniqueness among other crypto is breached, hence there is no chance that their Monero tracked system wouldn't be different from other systems out there. And if they just want to scare people to not use Monero, they shouldn't pull the stunt first publicly publishing the tool.. right?

Indeed. It seems that it is now the re-era of projects but with different systems such as DeFi yet the ideas of most ICO projects back then and now are just the same. It is so obvious that past failed projects that uses ERC20 will migrate and try to fool investors with their upgraded system using DeFi, in which somehow hopefully that newbie investors would have initiative to take a look if the new projects are worth investing... but I guess there would only be less than a percent of projects would be successful lol.

Oh, so basically they are just looking for HODLers then buy for them to somehow evade fees yet offer HODLers an additional amount for their BTC? Well then, if they hold huge amount of BTC, what purpose would they be having with the amount they hold? We all know that it is a risk once a huge percentage of Bitcoin is being held by a single company, they can control the price and dump it or just simply make multiple sell orders at a lower price in which many would buy and break the BTC or even all crypto market.

How could they not have public address btw?

Why would you trust an application/website/wallet that already had a scam alert and warning in some reviews? Well then if the reviews are mainly positive, then you must ask other opinions if we should trust it as positive reviews online are mostly fake and paid. So If I were to try it, I'd rather not with those reviews.

Even the review link you've indicated also had this warning below the article:

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BTW, this should be in Reputation board as this tackles about one's reputation (obviously). Better move this topic, which you can find on the bottom-left corner of the thread.

Have you read their whitepaper?
https://defifirefly.io/static/media/dff_wp.12667cec.pdf

Their whitepaper's page 8 and 10 are redundant. It is also too short for a real project and even their website's text can also be seen in their whitepaper. Projects that are legitimate and promising always have time to construct paragraphs and explanations that would differ on Web-contexts and whitepaper (mostly whitepaper contains further and longer explanations and websites only shows summarized form of the main idea).

Also, there's no such thing that "they commit, we trust" in any projects. Many have learned with the past ERC20 ICOs and Projects scams back then.

If ever that you would try to brute force it by looking up on the wordlists for possible combinations then turn each and every possible combinations to a binary then use BIP39 algorithm to get the private key (which you can still have now or not), you would simply get 2^132 which is 5.4445179e+39


If ever that you can remember even just the mnemonics, you can simply use https://iancoleman.io/bip39/? .

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I might try doing this tomorrow just if ever I could crack it. I'll just send you a PM once I'm ready.

There are no applications nor wallets that could support offline-services. But there are a lot of hardware/cold wallet that you can use such as Ledger Nano X^[1] or Trezor Hardware wallet^[2]. Even applications that requires installment on your device is a bit risky, not unless you install wallet that are trusted such as Coinbase etc. But mostly, wallets requires online/internet connectivity to fully function it's services. Hence, there's no far great wallet compared to those hardware wallets.

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[1] https://www.ledger.com/
[2] https://trezor.io/

Lol Buy and Hold strategies are only used by Long-Term traders whom doesn't bother themselves in reading the candles and charts of a a certain stock/currency/crypto. Yes, daily traders loses their money because of a failed prediction and reading, but trust me, it is normal. Every trader knows that there are always risk of losing, even trading is just a mere gambling where you test your intellect and luck which most of the time is just losing. And it is a part, a risk management, and not a huge deal to traders.

Therefore, Buy and Hold often effective if and only  if an investor trusts a starting or innovating project/company, which somehow is also a 50:50 chance whether such holdings would rise as expected or would be dumped.

You cannot really judge that some people really aren't looking at the website they are visiting after they already seen the UI of the website they visited. But I tried visiting the bitcointalk.ro website that the OP is mentioning and it seems to be far different from the legit Bitcointalk.org domain and its default language is Romania, which is I guess romanian users here in the forum had been inspired to remake their own spinoff of the forum but focusing only on their main country and language.


Judging by its looks and the website itself (which uses SMF 20 the latest one), I don't think it is a phishing website, but again, a spin-off of the forum, a copy-cat, but for Romanian users only. As long as they don't require nor the user wouldn't try to enter their real bitcointalk.org username and password, then there's no probable harm nor risk. But still, it is preferrable to use Tor or VPNs to access it, for further privacy.

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You might wanna add this screenshot as well:

If you cannot provide the URL of under-construction website/project you're talking about, maybe you could post some screenshots and proof of work with your project. With that, some might be interested in investing on your project. But then, $.01 for 1 point in a 3 point quiz? I hope questions would be easy and obvious ones and not essays nor fill in the blanks. The idea is quite unique, but T\there are a lot of questions in your open ended thread.

• where could you get your funds from?
• Would you take ads, a membership, or by your projects traffic?
• Do you require KYC, a minimum investment to withdraw?

But I guess it would be hard to track those money that had been mixed in certain crypto-mixers such as Chipmixer. It strengthens a certain crypto's anonymity and deletes all of the possible footprints of where a crypto came from. But if such algorithm or an AI would be made to track each and every possible bite of footprint from a certain crypto wallet, then it isn't just criminals that could be arrested, but also those whom used mixers to mix their money for a better privacy.

It is really impossible to track all lurking criminals out there that uses Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies for their activities. Making it possible would risk the anonymity of the crypto users and even the whole crypto-world itself.

Re-applying! Hopefully my hardwork recently would pay off. Been waiting for months to be part of this! I just updated my merits and the post count and hoping to be part of this great campaign! I'll update requirements upon acceptance. Thank you so much!