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2521  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recommend me a signature campaign on: June 05, 2016, 11:29:56 AM
I see him applying and applying to some various of sigs existing but always get dennied and i see the reason for that is your post quality,  managers keep looking forward for post quality of their members so it cannot give bad image to their sigs they are representing and my advice for that is try to fix your post and it will be your reference to future sig campaigns you wish to join the only signature that accepts quality posters since theyre not checking is yobit.


You might think YoBit isn't checking the quality of the posts of their participants but they actually do. Hilarious has banned a lot of members on that campaign. And there's actually a community action going on in this thread --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1241968.0

When you're wearing a YoBit signature and you posted something senseless, it's likely that people would look into your post history to confirm that you're a spammer. You'll then get reported in that thread. You might be able to join YoBit in a few days but eventually someone will report you if you're a low quality poster.

No no,  what i mean is yobit is not checking for new participants quality post on enrollment in their sig campaigns so anyone can join wheter he is bad poster or good but really in the long run while they are in yobit campaign a chance for them to get banned if they dont post quality posting, and quality posting i a must even if you have or dont have a campaign it well help each one of use if we want to join big paying campaigns in the future,   

And that thread is helpfull to bust those whos spam and shit poster by that it can elimante people and can warn them to be good member in this furom, 


I didn't say that YoBit is checking the quality of posts of the users upon enrollment. I believe that I already have mentioned all these in my previous posts. So to summarize all the above message that I have quoted:
I'm pretty sure no signature campaign will accept you except YoBit which has an automated enrollment. You'll eventually get kicked though if you don't improve the quality of your posts.
2522  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 05, 2016, 11:08:53 AM
I don't know HashOcean personally, but Cloud Mining is a great scam for ponzi artists. You give them your money and they agree that you "mine" a small percent of it back each day. This alone guarantees months alone of just you trying to get your money back. Then oops, maintenance fees are higher, looks like it will take you another 2 months to reach ROI. Meanwhile this makes them seem ok and so people flood them with money thinking it's ok. Then it's game over.


Yep, the so called miners can't do anything if the admins decided to put on a "fee" and extend another 2 months or more to reach their ROI. And I also agree that when someone invested in a cloud mining site, and finds out that it is a scam, they will realize that they are just trying to get their money back in 3 months. Not earning it, but trying to get out of the scam site. They will surely just pray that HashOcean wouldn't run away before they get back their ROI.

Some people are so desperate in getting their ROI back that they promote HashOcean literally in every group on Facebook. They want to refer as much as they can so that they can get their ROI back sooner.
2523  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 0.3 btc in a week on: June 05, 2016, 11:04:57 AM
If you want 0.3 Bitcoin a week you need to work hard, try different investment sites and also try to learn trading because in trading it is possible to gain more than 0.3 Bitcoin a week if you work hard and have some patience on waiting for the price to increase.

Right now its not that difficult to earn 0.3btc in a week, because the price increase is continuing with big variation than minor fluctuations. The same won't happen all time.


The price of bitcoin is irrelevant to the difficulty of earning it. 1 BTC is still 1 BTC and 0.3 BTC in a week is still 0.3 BTC in a week. Maybe if you're getting paid in USD, then getting 0.3 BTC will be harder because the price has increased a lot.
2524  Other / Off-topic / Re: How kids can "earn" Bitcoin ? on: June 05, 2016, 11:02:01 AM
Study is much better for kids than earning the coins. Earning coins at an early age even via playing games can be bad itself. As a kid if  they get money from lets says bitcoins faucets, it will hurt their study and they could spent money in drugs or other harmful things. So care must be taken here

all you people recommending studying is funny , the richest people i know have not even gone to college, focus on something more important like learning to trade or investment, or poker whatever that can make you money instead of becomming a sheep at school getting a job with no freedom.


People who recommend studying is funny? I bet your kids wouldn't even enter Kindergarten. Roll Eyes We're talking about kids here, why are you talking about college? Have you seen a 5 year old kid in the colleges? LOL. You're the funny one here.

Kids without any educational background will become idiotic of the world. People will trick him into doing things he doesn't want to simply because he needs to earn money. He'll get stuck in a hard labor job that doesn't pay enough at all. The successful people that you were referring to have graduated high school. They might not been to college but after graduating high school, your kid will already know what's right and wrong. He would already know how to decide for himself.
2525  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature Campaigns: Worth The Time? on: June 05, 2016, 10:53:36 AM
you just need 5 minute to online and posting someting, i think its worth of time
You're wrong. Signature campaign requires more time, because you have to read topics before writting in it. If you spend only 5 minutes for posting, you can't write good quality posts and it means that soon you will be kicked from signature campaign.

only a Spammer can write that much posts in 5 minutes. some signature need 10 posts a day and some are need 20 posts a day like yobit and bit-x. and in 5 minutes you can't even write a single good high quality post.
signature campaign worth the time if you have good knowledge about bitcoin. and can write good posts. other wise you'll get banned from campaign and can't earn anything.


Just because you can't write anything in 5 minutes doesn't mean everybody else can't. Sometimes the topic is so easy to reply especially if the last post has a question at the end. You can easily reply that post. Spammers can only write 1-2 lines of posts. There are some people in here who can write long replies in a short period of time because they can type fast and they think fast.
2526  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 05, 2016, 04:44:03 AM
It s so funny to read this stuff, especially people who know they are ponzi but still try to convince themselves it is not.

Why? Cause it s been paying for a while.....

I am embarrassed to say I have been a victim of this HashOcean. I signed up in January and had the account running fine with no problems and then right when I got comfortable and invested almost $20,000.00 within three different accounts two of them got hacked and taken from me April 28th 2016 and the last one got taken from me yesterday May 12, 2016  needless to say I am out of $20K and three accounts not to mention many other losses that came behind that. What gets me is that when you sign up the register that email and I assume the system shows the IP it was signed up from.  The only way to change the email is internally and once that is done you can kiss your account good bye. Next will be the wallet address change and password so now you are completely locked out of your account. Forget the 1-650-603-5816 that is a recording and no one will ever answer or call back. Second the email for support is a joke. You send them an email for support and they will respond at their earliest convenience  with a simple one liner that does not answer or help you in anyway. Since yesterday I have emailed them 7 times Urgency and have not received one message back or a call which I provided my direct number in every email I sent. Needless to say I hope this helps those out there looking to invest with HashOcean.

do you have proof of your investment ? atleast you can show email screenshoot or else...

I also would like to see some evidence of this $20k.

I don't know why you invested such an amount of money

Even if your account got hacked you can still claim it back.

You just have to prove the accounts are yours by providing some informations.

If i'm not mistaken even if i hack someones account and i change his/her passord the account is still his/hers and can have it back by reseting the password through his/her email.
Also as i see HashOcean doesn't provides the change of our email address.

Anyway .... I'm not calling you liar but at least you could show us some evidence.


It's unclear to me why are these people believing this user. Easy to say that you have invested 20,000$ in an investment site and your accounts got hacked. If people asked for proof, you only have to say, "I got hacked, I can't show any proof." Seriously, why would someone invest that big money and if someone really did invest that much, then HashOcean should have ran away long time ago.
2527  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: June 05, 2016, 04:33:29 AM
Pretty sure BTC wouldn't go back to 100$ each. The price is slowly increasing. There might be some downward spikes in the past but nowadays, bitcoin's price is more likely to have upward spikes not downwards.
2528  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 0.3 btc in a week on: June 05, 2016, 04:26:53 AM
are you have capital ?
if yes you can start trade at altcoin or bitcoin pair fiat, but if you not have any bitcoin, i suggest you to start create new VLOG (video blog) , you can use youtube, you can't get bitcoin but of course you can buy 0.3/week from your earning Smiley


Starting a Vlog on Youtube wouldn't make you 0.3BTC/week. You have to build up thousands of followers first before you get 0.3BTC in a week. You have to monetize your videos. It's really hard to get tons of subscribers especially if you're just starting. There's a lot of vloggers out there that has awesome videos but don't get a lot of subscribers because there's already tons of people doing vlogs. The competition is too much when it comes to Youtube.

Unless you're a local actor or you're somewhat famous on social media sites, don't do vlogs. Vlogs will take too much of you're time editing, planning what to do and where to go. Vlogs are quite an investment because you don't know if your videos are going to be viral.
2529  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recommend me a signature campaign on: June 05, 2016, 04:15:04 AM
I see him applying and applying to some various of sigs existing but always get dennied and i see the reason for that is your post quality,  managers keep looking forward for post quality of their members so it cannot give bad image to their sigs they are representing and my advice for that is try to fix your post and it will be your reference to future sig campaigns you wish to join the only signature that accepts quality posters since theyre not checking is yobit.


You might think YoBit isn't checking the quality of the posts of their participants but they actually do. Hilarious has banned a lot of members on that campaign. And there's actually a community action going on in this thread --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1241968.0

When you're wearing a YoBit signature and you posted something senseless, it's likely that people would look into your post history to confirm that you're a spammer. You'll then get reported in that thread. You might be able to join YoBit in a few days but eventually someone will report you if you're a low quality poster.
2530  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recommend me a signature campaign on: June 05, 2016, 01:20:54 AM
look for the signature campaign that match your criteria. the appropriate classification. if I look at your level then you will easily get into all signature.


Yep the Legendary rank might look like a shining badge to most people. But if you ignore it for a while and take a look at his posts, all of it is just as good as a Newbie's, IMHO. No hard feelings but the rank in this forum isn't important at all when it comes to post's quality. I'm seeing newbies posting insightful stuffs (though most of newbies post spammy stuffs). The rank is nothing but an indication of how long your account has been in this forum.
2531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ALL IN!!?? on: June 05, 2016, 01:12:15 AM
Yep, in poker I always go all in to scare away my opponents. Pretending that I have a good pair of cards even though I don't. This is another way to win in poker, scaring your opponents. They surely will fold if you have the biggest bankroll and you went all in. All in isn't recommend to do when you're playing in a gambling site where everything is program-based or is random. Going all in should only be done if there's a skill required like in poker and sports betting.
2532  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: June 05, 2016, 01:07:21 AM
i am muslim and so many muslims are involve in bitcoin. its a legal in islamic Law. i really like it  i earn a decent amount from bitcoin. i think Arabs also involve in bitcoin.

Religion has nothing to do with bitcoin so there is NO need to talk about religion in this discussion imo, because this thread is about the possibility to earn a living with bitcoin.


i dont see any problem about his post he is just stating that btc is illegal in their religion
thus he is taking risk not being caught.
He said legal, and in a way religion itself has nothing to do with BitCoin, but It's demographic could affect it.
Say your Indian, living in India, which I hear money there, sending, spending, and things like that is crooked. Economy there could be better and bitcoin can solve this, or make things a lot easier for people of these countries.


I don't think things like that are crooked in India because I see a lot of people here with broken English and I'm pretty sure one of them is Indian. I, myself, have worked with an Indian guy in a gambling site, I wonder how is it illegal in their country? Also there's an investment site ran by an Indian guy, he's in Singapore though.

I believe that religion, and the place you're living in (unless there's no Internet connection in your place) has anything to do with bitcoin. If bitcoin sites are blocked in your country, then use a VPN. Religion has no say about bitcoin because religion has been established decades ago and bitcoin is relatively new. Some countries might make a law against bitcoin but the churches don't have the power to make such laws.
2533  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's stopping people from using bitcoin? on: June 05, 2016, 01:01:31 AM
ignorance indeed plays a big role when it comes to people leaving bitcoin or not willing to use bitcoin. the thing is that it will only cost an average person around 30 minutes to understand the basic things of bitcoin. after that he/she can decide whether or not to dive deeper into the technical aspects of bitcoin. that's up to them. just doing some unbiased research will help to convince the average joe to adopt bitcoin, or at least to give it a fair chance. they will realize that bitcoin stands for freedom.



30 minutes? I wonder what are those basic things that you were referring to. There's a lot of things you have to learn in bitcoin, I believe that trying to learn bitcoin in 30 minutes will only result to confusion after exploring the bitcoin world itself. Maybe those 30 minutes will only teach you things like "you can buy goods using BTC", "you can gamble using BTC", and stuffs like that. It's not enough knowledge for a bitcoiner. Those kind of things are only common sense IMHO since bitcoin is a currency, of course you can buy, gamble, and invest.

You have to tell them your bitcoin story so that they would be fully aware of the dangers out there like scammers, identity thieves, and ponzi scams. 30 minutes just isn't enough to lecture someone who's too afraid to try bitcoin.
2534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Alternative for martingale? on: June 05, 2016, 12:56:41 AM
The only way to beat a computer gambling game is to hope that it was not programmed well and you somehow expose a strong bias. The martingale only works in the long run if your bankroll is infinite and the casino has no maximum bet.
I do not think you will win in the long-term bets bets even though the short-term will not be able to use martingale method. Only if you rely on luck might work Cheesy


You don't think you'll be able to earn from martingale if you have infinite bankroll and no max. bet? LOL. Grin Made my day.

But in reality, nobody has an infinite bankroll and most gambling sites have maximum bets. You'll eventually encounter a losing streak that you've never expected to be that much streak. In the long run, you'll lose when you use martingale. You might earn some in the short run, but it's not that much considering how low your basebet should be even if you have a decent bankroll. Your bet increases exponentially so you have to bet really really low at first.
2535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: June 04, 2016, 03:39:15 PM
There is actually a safe way to gamble; nothing comes out by luck; its all calculation. Earn your bitcoins first and make 1BTC; that’s it. For me I just need to earn $32 per say; deposit you 1BTC in the gamble and bet 200satoshi with 50%chance and 100%bet increase on loss. You will get profit; there is no way in eternity that there will be more than a 30lose streak.

No way in eternity? Have you ever played in a gambling site before? Roll Eyes Probably not. 2x has lower than 50% chance of winning because of the house edge. There's a chance that you'll lose more than 30 times in a row. And also, it's not worth it to deposit 1BTC and bet just 200 satoshis. Just like the word that you used, it'll take you eternity before you earn some real profit.

Seriously, martingale is a bad strategy. People with no decent bankroll will only get busted in the long run, even people who have decent bankrolls get busted as well. And if you've got a really big bankroll, using martingale won't make you earn that much since the basebet should be really really low as it will increase exponentially whenever you lose a round.
2536  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: June 04, 2016, 03:34:16 PM
As a student i can't call it yet earning for a living but because of trading alt-coins with bitcoin i already bought my own cellphone with it. I even paid half of my tuition this semester and use it to top-up my mobile phone. In the future maybe i'll just work with bitcoin and continue earning it for a living.


If you plan to work with bitcoin to earn for a living then you should drop out of school. School will only take your time and the tuition fee will just another bill for you to pay. Since you said it yourself, that you're just going to work with BTC, you should focus all your time and energy on bitcoins. It is good that you are willing to take the risk in BTC. Having a degree might be a good backup plan when something bad happens to you in the BTC world.

Although to be wise, having a degree while earning from bitcoin is a good thing. It'll take tons of efforts but it'll be worth it when you have a family. Having a family means having more expenses. Maybe if you've got a day job (since you'll be a degree holder) you're able to feed yourself, but when starting a family, you're gonna be needing much more money than what you're earning. So you definitely should add bitcoin as one of your sources of income.
2537  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recommend me a signature campaign on: June 04, 2016, 02:14:03 PM
I'm pretty sure no signature campaign will accept you except YoBit which has an automated enrollment. You'll eventually get kicked though if you don't improve the quality of your posts.

Do you honestly think that someone would pay you for this kind of post? Considering how much the pay rate is for a Legendary account, it's not worth it to pay someone posting 1 word.
True.
2538  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betcoin.ag down - or only me? on: June 04, 2016, 02:09:47 PM
You don't have to make a new thread just for this. Are you new in betcoin.ag? The site is occasionally down. I withdrew my BTC as well on their site, went to sleep, and woke up without anything on my wallet. The admins hasn't said anything about this just yet but let's wait for a little long. The site has been like this before.
2539  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's stopping people from using bitcoin? on: June 04, 2016, 02:02:33 PM
I think bitcoin is actually more secure than a lot of other payment gateways. Rather, I think it's the bad image that has been cast over what bitcoin is used for that is creating doubts over the public about the morality of bitcoin.

For example, bitcoin is used for buying drugs. The public thinks that is all bitcoin is used for, and therefore they don't use it because they think it's illegal.

i agree. sadly the media has always been mostly against bitcoin especially whenever it is in their favor and most of the time they are just spreading the negative news because it is hot.

and this negative publicity is one of the biggest obstacles in front of bitcoin.

I think these are people who are against bitcoin, and I am seeing that they are more active on media, if they are more active then why the supporters of bitcoin are not much that active? We also have to be more active and have to spread it to every corner of the world.


Because no matter how much we explain to people that bitcoin is actually good for the society and to them as an individual, the negativity on their mind still wins. People will only hear what they want to hear. They want to hear that bitcoin is bad that's why that's the only thing they believe.

What's stopping them from using bitcoin is fear. Fear that someone would be after their lives when in fact, they are fully anonymous when it comes to bitcoin. Unless if they upload their photo and other personal info and say that a wallet belongs to them, of course. Roll Eyes
2540  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best signature campaign now a days on: June 03, 2016, 01:33:26 PM
Best for you does not mean it is best for others, I believe some people not only looking for high rates but also about the rules. So it's all about preferences, when someone feel comfortable on a campaign so he will keep it as long as possible although the rate is lower than others.

Yep, sometimes, the best signature campaign depends on the participant himself, not the rate. Some people are busy in their work and/or studies, so they can't post 20x a day. Some can't even achieve that 20 posts in a week. There are some signature campaigns in which the minimum post is 10x a week. I believe that the campaign that has the lowest minimum post count is YoBit where you only have to post once a month so that you won't get kicked.

On the other hand, some people do prefer campaigns that has the highest maximum post count. Most of the campaigns that has a high maximum post count has a lower rate than those campaigns who has a low max. post count. Some people don't mind the low rate because as long as they can achieve the maximum post count, they will earn more than the campaigns that has a low max. post count.
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