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Emmanuel Abiodun (Cloudhashing operator) = SCAMMER
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Just ordered additional 20,000 chips from Avalon. Orders that would not be covered by the first batch, would certainly be covered by these chips.
BitSyncom is going to get the chips produced in bulk from the foundry. We believe that all the orders will be shipped by Avalon in close proximity to each other. So, hopefully, the chips ordered today will be shipped at most a week or two after the ships we ordered on May 10 and 16. In that case, our batch 2 orders will start shipping at most 2 weeks after the batch 1.
This is clearly not what we discussed. Terrahash contact us ASAP. GO HOME, SCAMMERS. |
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The mods do not need to remote control someone's computer or look at ELA of screenshots, theymos needs to just simply look for the deleted post.
Seriously, please investigate, there should be consequences for shill bidding or faking screenshots.
This +10000. Please guys, don't let this become scammer's paradise. |
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What happened to the posts counts - have 500 of my posts been deleted ?
Changed to activity apparently Activity != Post Count Name: samson Posts: 801 Activity: 238 Now ranks are based on activity. The activity number is determined in this way: time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration activity = min(time * 14, posts) Activity is updated every 30 minutes. The new membergroup limits work like this: | Group | Requirement | | Brand New | 0 posts | | Newbie | (none) | | Jr. Member | 1 post written over 4 hours ago | | Member | activity: 15 | | Full Member | activity: 60 | | Sr. Member | activity: 200 | | Hero Member | activity: 400 |
I'm not 100% sure that the membergroups work correctly. Tell me if you see any bugs. |
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After reserving my spot via pre-order, I checked every morning to see if the order book was open. On the day it actually opened, there wasn't a peep on the forums about it yet. I was sure I would be one of the first, but when my order completed, it ended up being #189 which I assume means that at least 188 other orders had at least started the ordering process before me.
This tells me two things:
1) I'm not alone in my bitcoin obsession.
2) People who are serious about placing an early order are willing to go through great lengths to do so.
Complaining about not receiving an email is really just hot air from those that weren't going to place an order anyway and should be ignored.
If you really want one, go ahead and place the order. You'll get your unit about 6 days after me.
+111 I'm 40th. But do not look every day there are systems to avoid doing so.  Good thing titomane dropped me a call  |
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To the people flaming KS and Bitcoinorama: Cool off, guys. Both are doing their job. It's way better for the community to have them both, than having just one of them or none. Bitcoinorama is very thorough and did a huge work, but it's true that he might be a little "over-enthusiastic" at times. Well, the truth is that he even would like to work for KnC, he admitted that. But this does not mean that he's dishonest, just that he is a little bit biased. From the other side KS is playing devil's advocates, raising clever and adequate concerns, cooling off people's hope that turns in "wishful thinking" some times. TL-DR -> we need them both. Keep up the good job, guys |
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BTW, I've looked into Werner's post history and the fact is he really looks like a sockpuppet. He completely changes his writing style depending on the situation: some times he definitely writes as a non-native english, then he speaks perfect english, etc. And coincidentally he always support Garr's ventures, and coincidentally he always bids in Garr's auctions, but never win.
I don't think this is *definitive* proof. But please, mods, look into this thing seriously, for honest people is frightening to see how scammers go unpunished.
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This is a very serious thing.
Bidding sockpuppets that pump up the price in auctions = robbing peoples money. It's an outright scam that cannot go unpunished.
Josh is raising a very serious accusation, and he presented proof. There are two options:
a) Josh faked the proof creating a filthy libel that cannot be tolerated. The accusation is too serious.
b) Garr is a scammer
In either case, my humble opinion is that this has to be looked into it thoroughly by the mods. We cannot allow dishonest people abusing honest folks, either by scamming money in auctions through sockpuppets, or by raising false and seriously defamatory accusations, faking proofs to support their statements.
I don't know if the "scammer tag" still exists, but I really cannot see how this situation could end up without either Josh or Garr being banned, applied a scammer tag, or whatever other measures there are on these forums to effectively protect honest people and make scammer's life a little bit more difficult.
Otherwise this forum becomes a joke, scammer's paradise, and I really hope mods don't want that to happen.
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You could have accepted the forced refund like a man. You decided to publicly humiliate yourself because of greed - a refund was not good enough, you wanted your money printing machine even if that meant giving up honor and basic principles.
And because of greed you have a sockpuppet you use to scam people in auctions.
Unless Josh the sociopath has faked the screenshot he posted, he has exposed you as a greedy scammer.
Sad indeed.
I don't think you saw my reasoning for complying with Josh's requests. It was my fiduciary duty to do so. It was because I wanted to protect the investments of others above myself. I can hardly fathom how one could interpret that as greedy. If I was your investor, I would immediately ask for a refund after seeing this thread. If I was your investor, I would never allow you to lie on my behalf. I would never allow you to give up basic morals and principles on my behalf, while humiliating yourself publicly. I would accept the forced refund and put all the blame on BFL because until the sockpuppet thing unfolded it was not your fault, as before Josh exposed you, you were raising valid points in the best interest of your investors. I really hope mods look into this. Dishonest people abusing honest folks by robbing them using bidding sockpuppets in auctions should NEVER be allowed or indulged. Should ALWAYS be looked into. Otherwise this very forum becomes scammer's paradise. The evidence is enormous. Josh posted the screenshot immediately after your post. What a coincidence that the posts of Werner are always supporting your ventures and bidding in your auctions. But I do really hope Josh is some kind of ultra-fast photoshopper and the mods can prove that Werner is definitely NOT your sockpuppet account. I'm sorry, but there are only two options in here: either you (Garr) are a scammer with bidding sockpuppets that pump up the price in your auctions, effectively robbing people's money; or Josh willingly faked proof against you regarding a very serious issue, and that would be a filthy libel that cannot go unpunished. One of you needs to go, or to get a scammer tag, or whatever other measure there is in these forums to avoid honest people to be abused by the the dishonest ones. |
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Ok, then we need to ask Theymos if the IP address matches for both Garr/Werner accounts. Either Garr255/Werner is committing fraud or Inaba is committing libel. One has got to go.
If a mod can check that for us I'd be soooo happy  And what would that tell us? I can change my IP in a minute to appear is if it's a thousand miles away. I would rather if a mod just closed the thread, as it seems to have degraded and gone offtrack. If the accounts both originate from the same IP, that would be pretty damning evidence. I Guess nobody is so retarded to log on their sockpuppet accounts without using a proxy and/or Tor. |
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I can't believe what's happening here...
I did not bid up those auctions. I am not arguing the accusation that the werner account is under my control because I want to keep my BFL orders! Otherwise, believe me: I would be!
I have always been known to be one of the most transparent and trustworthy people around here. I'm sure a few btc might seem significant to some of you, but please be assured that I'm not going to SCAM people out of a few coins, because I value my reputation much more than that!
I'm genuinely disgusted with the outcome of this. Again: I'm going to hold to that apology because it is my fiduciary duty to do so, no matter what it does to my reputation.
Apologies for the mass confusion.
You could have accepted the forced refund like a man. You decided to publicly humiliate yourself because of greed - a refund was not good enough, you wanted your money printing machine even if that meant giving up honor and basic principles. And because of greed you have a sockpuppet you use to scam people in auctions. Unless Josh the sociopath has faked the screenshot he posted, he has exposed you as a greedy scammer. Sad indeed. |
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I am in the same situation so I invested in this mining company: http://cognitivemining.com/They already had asic purchase, the first actually. So now we can own part of that first purchase! Here is a post from March 15th, also in the newbies forum, where Werner is saying that he invested in Cognitivemining. Owned by Garr255. Here's another post in the same thread from March 27th, in the newbies forum, where Werner is telling them that they can buy The VERY FIRST BFL ASIC Order. Owned by Garr255. That was at least interesting. Look how Garr pumps up the price of his own auction with his Werner sockpuppet. That totally deserves a scammer tag. |
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In order for me to keep my pre-orders Josh is making me do the following: - Apologize Publicly for calling Josh and BFL liars
- Admit "Werner" is a sock puppet account uner my control
- Apologize for using "Werner" to troll him
Therefore, in the best interest of Cognitive, the people who have purchased pre-orders from me, and myself: Dear Inaba and BFL:
Sorry for calling you liars. Werner is a sock puppet account under my control. Sorry for utilizing said account to "troll" you.
With regret,
Garr255
Also, I apologize to all who I may have put at risk by speculating that BFL may have been acting in a dishonest fashion. If I had known that the cancellation of orders placed by me would result of this I would not have acted in such a way, as that would be a direct violation of the fiduciary duty imposed on me by handling others' assets. Josh the sociopath publicly humiliating customers exploiting their greed and cowardness. Please ban me from every business in which you will ever be involved, from this very moment I will never ever again give you trust nor money. |
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The order was a Jalapeno initially. I paid to upgrade it to a 60gh/s SC Single, and BFL confirmed that I would not lose my place in line.
The bit-pay guys know the number BFL's database started at, and it was with my order. I placed it within ten seconds of BFL opening the forms, and nobody on the forums claimed a previous preorder until BFL started lying about it. I'm not going to be easily convinced that over 50 people placed orders via paypal exclusively in those ten seconds.
BFL: What's your excuse for this one?
Calm the fck down, The reason why there are orders b4 you was the last FPGA orders were allowed to convert to ASICs. They've automatically become the first ones in line. For new orders, its true that you're the first. Nemesis is correct. There are a number of orders that are before the first Bitpay order, dating back well before #1600. Garr, you can officially piss off at this point and take your accusations and stick them straight up your ass. I tried to be nice and I wanted to help you and you give me all sorts of shit and accusations. This is why we no longer give a shit about this forum; Everyone here is monumental assholes, no matter how accommodating one tries to be. Garr, you'll get your order when it comes up in the queue, I'm done looking into your problems or trying to help you. Cancelling my orders straight away. You guys do not deserve the trust and the money of your customers. |
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Dont speculate about difficulty its not important, the number of units in network is not important.
The only important think is your H/s and global H/s nothing else !!!!!!
Its easier to predict the global hash rate than difficulty. Predicting difficulty is wasting of time.
Almost correct. Difficulty is directly proportional to hash rate. If you can predict global hash rate - then difficulty can be easily calculated from it. 1TH/s = 139696,25 difficulty point correct, but first you need to predict the H/s anyway, not difficlutly Excuse me, but how did you think that we were projecting difficulty? Obviously estimating total hash rate, and total hash rate is estimated taking into account existing hardware and when it will be likely shipped/deployed. Really don't get your point, you just stated the obvious?? To get difficulty from total hashrate you just need to apply an easy formula. sorry for that…my point is that my formula seems to be easier for me, i dont need mining calculator, remember the THs/difficulty point... but its only my opinion no flame please im complicated person The "mining calculator" is useful to a) include your costs (electricity, hardware) and b) factor the network hash rate increase (which equals to profitability decline in terms of constant BTC exchange rate), in order to project the results on a given timeframe. You obviously do not need any online calculator to know how many BTC will generate X GH/s at X total network hashrate. |
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Dont speculate about difficulty its not important, the number of units in network is not important.
The only important think is your H/s and global H/s nothing else !!!!!!
Its easier to predict the global hash rate than difficulty. Predicting difficulty is wasting of time.
Almost correct. Difficulty is directly proportional to hash rate. If you can predict global hash rate - then difficulty can be easily calculated from it. 1TH/s = 139696,25 difficulty point correct, but first you need to predict the H/s anyway, not difficlutly Excuse me, but how did you think that we were projecting difficulty? Obviously estimating total hash rate, and total hash rate is estimated taking into account existing hardware and when it will be likely shipped/deployed. Really don't get your point, you just stated the obvious?? To get difficulty from total hashrate you just need to apply an easy formula. |
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This is basically a scam. Charging 949 for 10 Ghs is hilarious. Buy a miner that is faster for ~300 $.
Where do you get even 10 GH/s for $300 without having it be worthless by the time you get it? (the provider of cloudhashing BTW) -> $200 x 10GH/s And they plan to deliver in September, which is the date in which Cloudhashing is planning to start mining (because I already said they are buying their units to KnCminer, right?) |
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A different kind of chart that is getting interesting:  |
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I will cross-post something I wrote in another thread and I think is relevant to the current discussion: is KNC miner a scam
I mean 350g/h sounds rediculous to me for their jupiter mining device, infact why would they even bother silling them, they would make more money mining,
Not really. This is true for a short time, when there is a disruptive change in technology, as it just happened with the first ASIC - those machines create such an unbalance in the network dynamics, that the profit in running them is HUGE. Thus, you either sell them at a crazy price, or you just mine yourself. If you were around before ASICs, you will know that mining has always been only marginally profitable. It's a very competitive business, where the profit basically lies in having free electricity and free storage, if your operational costs are above average you mine at a loss - because the market self-regulates itself. Most of the time selling spades is more profitable than digging for gold, with some notable exceptions, as we had since February for the few folks that had the ASICs. As soon as the ASICs spread, network difficulty will balance, and everybody will be fighting for pennies again, as we did with GPUs and FPGAs. If you have the luck to be in the front line during the change to a disruptive technology (FPGAs -> ASIC), of course it's more profitable to mine yourself. But once the market settles and difficulty adjusts to this new technology, long-term is much more profitable to sell the hardware and let the miners fight for their pennies. The fact is that the (short) window in which mining with ASICs meant huge profit is finishing. |
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is KNC miner a scam
I mean 350g/h sounds rediculous to me for their jupiter mining device, infact why would they even bother silling them, they would make more money mining,
Not really. This is true for a short time, when there is a disruptive change in technology, as it just happened with the first ASIC - those machines create such an unbalance in the network dynamics, that the profit in running them is HUGE. Thus, you either sell them at a crazy price, or you just mine yourself. If you were around before ASICs, you will know that mining has always been only marginally profitable. It's a very competitive business, where the profit basically lies in having free electricity and free storage, if your operational costs are above average you mine at a loss - because the market self-regulates itself. Most of the time selling spades is more profitable than digging for gold, with some notable exceptions, as we had since February for the few folks that had the ASICs. As soon as the ASICs spread, network difficulty will balance, and everybody will be fighting for pennies again, as we did with GPUs and FPGAs. If you have the luck to be in the front line during the change to a disruptive technology (FPGAs -> ASIC), of course it's more profitable to mine yourself. But once the market settles and difficulty adjusts to this new technology, long-term is much more profitable to sell the hardware and let the miners fight for their pennies. The fact is that the (short) window in which mining with ASICs meant huge profit is finishing. |
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