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1721  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon orders - batch #3 refund requests thread on: August 28, 2013, 09:37:36 AM
I'm still waiting for my refund !

has anyone received BTC from avalon ?

Only one person, who asked for the refund *before* the google docs form was up.
1722  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra Unveils a 2TH/s ASIC Bitcoin Miner : TerraMiner IV on: August 28, 2013, 09:36:22 AM
Oh, I don't mind preorders. I think a lot of people will be terribly dissapointed when they realize that no preorder means no profit.

Why would you sell a product in hand for less than you would get from mining with it?  Are there any asic manufacturers listed as charities?

16k still too expensive. I would purchase immediately for 10k though.

I guess you do not mind preorders because you did not preorder BFL, bASIC, Avalon batch #2 and #3 and Avalon chips.

No matter how hard we try to warn noobs, more and more noobs will flood the Bitcoin ecosystem, they will arrive completely blinded by greed, and they will throw their money into these pre-order schemes while dreaming about getting rich quick.

Sad.
1723  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: is cloudhashing.com a scam?? on: August 28, 2013, 09:27:28 AM
Ok guys so we just added another 500 ghash. Another 120 ghash is coming online in the next 4 days.

Regards

Emmanuel

Does this mean that customers will get the hashing power that they ordered now? If not, what overall hashing power do you need to achieve in order for customers to get what they paid for?

Based on the latest payment (0.172BTC for 2 weeks, i.e. about 0.86BTC per week), it looks like customers who paid for 6Gh/s are getting 1.5-1.6Gh/s http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator (put in 1600 Mh/s, but note that the difficulty is increasing every day and the 0.172 BTC was from a while ago, so allocated hashing power would have been slightly lower at the time).

If it is proportional, hashing power will need to quadruple for customers to get what they paid for, and what they paid for is a lot more valuable if received earlier than later.

I was very tempted by CloudHashing based on what was advertised, but the more I look into it, the more I think I might not make ROI based on what is actually delivered.

This just means that BFL is scum and is fucking with customers who paid +1 year ago, giving priority to Cloudscam who is buying mini-rigs through the back door.
1724  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - LIVE ROULETTE - [INVEST] - BEST CASINO OF 2013 on: August 28, 2013, 09:22:15 AM
Don't expect coins back, pay attention to what's being said "compensation is also being discussed but I will not make any commitments"

The guy is just trying to keep the scam going to continue to get grab as many coins as possible before the site goes dark, or he comes up with some bogus story about how the site was hacked & he wants to fix things.

Not sure if you guys are illiterate or what.

Giving back the frozen BTC is a commitment, giving ADDITIONAL compensations OVER the sums of frozen BTC (e.g. 5%, 10%) are not promised.

I guess it is not possible to invest any more until you solve the problem and "unfreeze" the funds of earlier investors, right?
1725  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why are people still using gox when there is no way to withdraw on: August 28, 2013, 09:20:59 AM
Per topic, why are people still using mtgox when there is no way to withdraw your money?

I'm able to withdraw my money.
1726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 28, 2013, 09:14:10 AM
The +BTC7800 wall at $127 looks solid. Someone is willing to purchase $1M in BTC Cheesy
1727  Economy / Speculation / Re: The thoughts of a bubble buyer on: August 28, 2013, 09:04:08 AM
People might be wondering if there will be a massive sell off when the price of bitcoin approaches the bubble values of this spring. Here's what I think:

I happen to be one of the unfortunate, who bought into bitcoin during the spring bubble.

This was after watching the price almost double during one week, and trying to quickly study bitcoin and understand how everything works. Finally I decided that I can't wait any longer. I just had to get some coins or face the possibility of life long regret. The day I put in my buy order, was actually the highest peak day! Smiley Then the crash happened. Luckily the order took half a day to execute and I got my bitcoins for "only" 180 dollars/coin.

My thoughts were pretty much "God damn it, I knew it was too good to be true! I will never ever try something like this again. I should have known better."

Despite my negative feelings, I kept checking out bitcoin every once in while, considering if I should maybe accept the loss in order to avoid even bigger losses in the future.

When the price climbed all the way up to 150 I was thinking "wohoo, soon I can end this nightmare without making a loss!". Then it fell again.

Fast forward to this day. During the last months bitcoin has intrigued me more and more. I have kept a close eye on the BTC course. I keep reading these forums daily. I talk to people about bitcoin. Bitcoin has started to represent hope for me.

And something has changed. I'm not looking forward to sell my bitcoins in order to just break even anymore. After all the trouble and heartache I've been through with bitcoins, I simply won't settle anymore for any small profit. If I get double the price I paid originally, I might consider selling. But if that would be the case, it would be so bullish that I'm not sure if I could let them go. So it's actually quite hard to see myself selling my bitcoins now.

My point is simply this: I bought into the bubble, was looking for an exit for months, but wouldn't take the exit anymore without significant gains.

There might be many bubble buyers who are having a similar kind of change of heart. And this new feeling is quite bullish I have to say.

Just my two cents: Ask yourself sincerely if you might think "something has changed" in you because in the last weeks Bitcoin has been stable (or in a growing trend). Ask to yourself if you wouldn't go back to the heartache if you see the price quickly crashing to sub-$50, or if you will not shit on your pants if Gox go broke or the regulators get harsher.

Anyhow, my recommendations is not waiting for "something to change" in you as you wrote, because that means that you are driven by emotions, which is a big mistake. Be cold minded and choose a strategy and follow it no matter what. If you are driven by emotions you will get greedy when the price skyrockets (you confirmed this point in your post: "If I get double the price I paid originally, I might consider selling. But if that would be the case, it would be so bullish that I'm not sure if I could let them go."). If the price goes into an exponential trend and doubles every week again, it looks like your greed will push you to hold so you can return the biggest "I told you so" to your friend. Beware.

Same thing applies for the opposite case: you felt a lot of heartache, "but something has changed". Why? Because the price is stable and looking good? Just be sure the heartache does not come back if there is a lot of blood on the streets, a huge crash and it seems like Bitcoin is headed to $0 - because anyway, did you invest ONLY money you can afford to lose?
1728  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNCminer 48 hour controller board slogan challenge on: August 28, 2013, 08:50:16 AM
-> "Failure is not an option.”

-> "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."

-> "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible."

And now a couple of "mocking" ones:

-> "We are like butterflies who flutter for a day and think it's forever."

-> "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by."

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Report on the Bitcoin Foundation's Trip to Washington D.C. on: August 28, 2013, 08:35:00 AM
We could use some additional transparency. What were the "tough questions" and the "tough answers"?
1730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: August 28, 2013, 08:29:05 AM
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The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks

A tribute to Satoshi would be great.
1731  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNCminer 48 hour controller board slogan challenge on: August 27, 2013, 07:53:30 PM
"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"


This. I think we have a winner.

"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
+1 this is the best.
Maybe I'm just stupid, but this is not the first thread someone has brought that up, and I don't get it. Explain why it's so interesting?

So many posts and time in here and you do not know where that sentence is stored forever and what are its (many) meanings and importance?

FYI: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block

1732  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: knC legit? on: August 27, 2013, 07:48:36 PM
They are definitely not willing to perform a "hit and run" scam, but anyhow every day that passes without them showing a chip and a working prototype, the more likely they will miss the September deadline.
1733  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 27, 2013, 12:08:44 PM
Really? So what are the US soldiers on the "collateral murder" video leaked by B. Manning? They killed +10 unarmed civilians and seriously injured two kids (which are probably dead now), and they really enjoyed the view of the corpses of the people they just killed... "look at that... Nice" they said to each other while admiring the torn apart bodies on their chopper screen.

That's probably because US soldiers are forced to take drugs to reduce any feelings of empathy, they seen like callous pricks but they're being screwed over and it only gets worse when they get out - they suffer from withdrawals, suicide rate of 22 / day, their assets being taken away, 40% of homeless are veterans - not to mention every war they fight is based on a lie.


Considering US soldiers are murdering hunderds of thousands of innocent people all over the world, what would you consider them - good or bad "guys"

I make this point because when I said that I don't believe in "good" or "bad" guys (I just believe in "guys" that do bad or good things at some points of their lives) I was mocked by pretty much every one on this thread. And here you have the example of how people who is murdering women and children and bombing countries to the stone age, sometimes enjoying what they are seeing, are justified by you - and I'm sure they are justified by their families and community.

Or maybe we have the good guys, the bad guys, and the US soldiers on the "collateral murder" video, which do not fall in any one of the former categories?

People do both evil and good things, but living in a culture that feeds on fear, while considers firearms "freedom tools" and nice toys, do not help at all.
1734  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Store Batch 3 Status just went to "Refunded" -- now "Refund Processing" on: August 27, 2013, 08:39:45 AM
Avalon update on August, 19th: "refunds are being processed"

Reality on August, 27th: no refund has been reported in here.

So, Avalon is either lying or the people is getting refunds and are not reporting back. Or maybe Avalon's english is so lousy they forget to add "soon" at the end of the sentence.

Pretty outrageous stuff nevertheless.

1735  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 25, 2013, 06:45:50 PM
My point is that most of people is not intrinsically good or bad, the vast majority of people do both good and bad things during their life (again, those teenage soldiers in "collateral murder" enjoyed killing innocent people, but nevertheless they did not even go to trial and are now you probably considered "proud and honorable war veterans" -  so, are they "the good guys", "the bad guys" or just "guys" that did something very evil? )

Nevertheless, when people is heavily armed they do huge damage when their mind flips out - and minds DO flip out,  especially in a violent society like the USA.

As I've stated before, those people will "flip out" regardless of whether are armed or not.  And if they do around me, I want to be able to defend myself and mine.  The benefit of being armed to defend myself outweighs the benefit of said flippos not being armed. 

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And seriously: the world is so fucked up where you live that you fear a random guy breaking and entering your home to rape your family? REALLY? Wow, that's fucked up. Where I live there are few rapings, and most of them are commited by people very close to the victim (relatives, friends, family), which are people the victim wouldn't shoot in any case.

And this might be slightly off topic, but I would ask you why do you think your society is so violent, both internally  (random killings, shool shootings, wackos blowing up entire buildings, etc.) and externally (executions without trial by drones, bombing countries to the stone age, guantanamo, etc.). It's an frank question, it would be interesting to know the opinion of the people living that reality first hand. In my opinion, most of that violence (yes, the internal too) is based precisely on fear.

I've said this before as well.  But I'll repeat.  A godless society leads to moral decay.  That leads to societal breakdown.  It will lead to the end of the world as we know it if we don't turn back to God.  (No, I'm not talking religion.  There is plenty of religion to go around, and you see how far it's got the world.)

There IS something seriously wrong with this world.  Not just the US, but the whole world.  What do you think it is?  I've thought about this a lot, and the only answer I've found is a lack of God.

M

My guess is that there is too much fear and too much greed. I strongly believe there are very few psychos who enjoy hurting people, and that the vast majority of crimes in this world are commited because of fear and greed - those are our two biggest problems IMO. Some turn to god to control the fear and greed in them, but as an atheist I never understood why. I personally don't need to believe in god to be good to the people around me, or to know that being forgiving, generous and compassionate makes me happier than living in anger.
1736  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 25, 2013, 09:08:25 AM
So, the military (as the ones in my example) are generally "bad people", regardless of their country of origin, right?

I'm not sure where you are going with this.  I'm sure the overlords who run the military industrial complex seek out the lowest meanest foulest individuals for their employment.  I'm sure there are also those there who bought the government propaganda about whatever war being good and necessary, and think they are "serving their country" and making their country a better place.  To say the military as a whole is bad is an overstatement.  I would argue that those running it and controlling it are more malicious than their employees are.

An older fellow at the gas station told me once that when he joined the army, the government gave him a gun and told him to go out and kill the enemy.  Now that he's no longer employed by them, they're trying to make sure he can't own a gun to defend his own body, family, and property.

What's your point?  

M

My point is that most of people is not intrinsically good or bad, the vast majority of people do both good and bad things during their life (again, those teenage soldiers in "collateral murder" enjoyed killing innocent people, but nevertheless they did not even go to trial and are now probably considered "proud and honorable war veterans" -  so, are they "the good guys", "the bad guys" or just "guys" that did something very evil? )

Nevertheless, when people is heavily armed they do huge damage when their mind flips out - and minds DO flip out,  especially in a violent society like the USA.

And seriously: the world is so fucked up where you live that you fear a random guy breaking and entering your home to rape your family? REALLY? Wow, that's fucked up. Where I live there are few rapings, and most of them are commited by people very close to the victim (relatives, friends, family), which are people the victim wouldn't shoot in any case.

And this might be slightly off topic, but I would ask you why do you think your society is so violent, both internally  (random killings, shool shootings, wackos blowing up entire buildings, etc.) and externally (executions without trial by drones, bombing countries to the stone age, guantanamo, etc.). It's an frank question, it would be interesting to know the opinion of the people living that reality first hand. In my opinion, most of that violence (yes, the internal too) is based precisely on fear.
1737  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 24, 2013, 10:11:02 PM
Last but not least, I honestly do not believe there are "bad" and "good" guys. The best people in the world do stupid things at times. The point is that the less violent is a society, the better for everybody - and the US is a very violent society. I acknowledge there are some areas where you NEED a gun, but that is sick and should be addressed ASAP.

I think that's the flaw in your logic.  There are good and bad guys.  You can't protect people from stupidity, and punishing everyone because of one is erroneous, because the outcome will be worse.

M

Really? So what are the US soldiers on the "collateral murder" video leaked by B. Manning? They killed +10 unarmed civilians and seriously injured two kids (which are probably dead now), and they really enjoyed the view of the corpses of the people they just killed... "look at that... Nice" they said to each other while admiring the torn apart bodies on their chopper screen.

Sad thing is they are no different from all other soldiers deployed in war zones, those guys are probably heroes in their neighborhoods, and are the best example of proud American soldier who went to defend their country for their friends.

On a side note, its pitiful to see how obsessed are some of you about random people raping your wife and kids. Is the world so fucked up where you live that you really fear that?

I guess the US is founded on fear. You fear some evil bearded men that will come and try to take your beloved freedom away, so your government can just strip you of the most basic rights (what an irony), while the US military can justify horrendous crimes commited all over the world. You fear your neighbor, so you end up violence as some necessary evil you need to master to protect, again, your freedom.

Just for reference, the average US citizen (note: not a "subject" in most states) has no control over the Federal government, or the goons/soldiers it employs.  Regardless, I fail to see how goons involved in war have anything to do with my right to defend myself?  Also note I certainly did not, and do not, condone the actions of those in war.

I gave one of the worse case scenarios.  If a thug, government employed or not, came to your house and decided to do bodily harm to you and yours, would you be able to stop him without a gun?  How about two thugs?  Five?  I'd put my chances at 50/50 if it was one on one.  It decreases significantly when the thug count increases.  However, add a gun to that equation, and suddenly I have something called a force equalizer.  It's not 100% in my favor, but it significantly makes it MORE likely that I and mine will survive the situation.

There are monsters in the world, two legged and four.  Your referenced YouTube video shows that.  If you choose to believe otherwise, and live believing that you are perfectly safe and that police are only "minutes away", be my guest.  I hope you never regret your decision.  I however, will not relinquish that right.  It is my job to protect my family and children, because I'm the most likely one able to do so.  Will I ever need to do so?  I hope to God in heaven not.  But if the day comes that I do, I have the ability to do so.  

There are millions like me.  And we will stand up when misinformed individuals such as yourself try to remove that right.

M

EDIT: I'd like to add that, as others have stated here multiple times, the chances of me needing to employ lethal force decreases significantly when said goons suspect that I am my family are armed, and know how to use it.

So, the military (as the ones in my example) are generally "bad people", regardless of their country of origin, right?
1738  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 24, 2013, 08:44:33 PM
Last but not least, I honestly do not believe there are "bad" and "good" guys. The best people in the world do stupid things at times. The point is that the less violent is a society, the better for everybody - and the US is a very violent society. I acknowledge there are some areas where you NEED a gun, but that is sick and should be addressed ASAP.

I think that's the flaw in your logic.  There are good and bad guys.  You can't protect people from stupidity, and punishing everyone because of one is erroneous, because the outcome will be worse.

M

Really? So what are the US soldiers on the "collateral murder" video leaked by B. Manning? They killed +10 unarmed civilians and seriously injured two kids (which are probably dead now), and they really enjoyed the view of the corpses of the people they just killed... "look at that... Nice" they said to each other while admiring the torn apart bodies on their chopper screen.

Sad thing is they are no different from all other soldiers deployed in war zones, those guys are probably heroes in their neighborhoods, and are the best example of proud American soldier who went to defend their country for their friends.

On a side note, its pitiful to see how obsessed are some of you about random people raping your wife and kids. Is the world so fucked up where you live that you really fear that?

I guess the US is founded on fear. You fear some evil bearded men that will come and try to take your beloved freedom away, so your government can just strip you of the most basic rights (what an irony), while the US military can justify horrendous crimes commited all over the world. You fear your neighbour, so you end up violence as some necessary evil you need to master to protect, again, your freedom.
1739  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 24, 2013, 08:43:24 AM
Nobody who doesn't covet a gun would consider carrying one around to not be an encumbrance. And we're not just talking about weight here. But it wouldn't surprise me that you, one who covets guns, wouldn't understand.

Is the source of the encumbrance the gun itself? Or the crime ridden area they live in where they may actually need a gun for self defense? I mean, really, I just don't get you. Are you honestly claiming that if we reduce the number of guns, crime will go down, and everyone will become more civil???

Well, with guns there is a sort of vicious circle going on in the US. As you said, its true that criminals DO have guns in Europe, and its not so difficult to buy one on the black market... But criminals (mostly drug dealers, "mafia" members, etc.) just do not carry guns around, they have them to kill other criminals or defend themselves from other criminals (or the police, if needed). In Europe, Spain, etc. you won't read about a random guy killed in his house (or on the street) because a robbery/assault, you will read about a drug dealer being executed by another drug dealer (just happened not so long ago near my house), russian gang members killing each other, etc... And still this happens just a few dozens times per year in countries with +50 million inhabitants, and nobody in my country feels unsafe or with the need to carry a gun.

Why? Well, as ALL citizens are unarmed, criminals are just less violent, especially with normal citizens. They do not fear for their life when they steal your call/break into your house (they know nobody will shoot at them... Not even the police!), so they really do not need to carry a gun, considering that committing a crime using a gun (even if you do not fire it) might get you tenfold the time of jail you would get if you commit the same crime unarmed. See, there is no need for criminals to use guns against unarmed citizens, from one side they are "safe" and there is no threat for their lifes, from the other side going around with a loaded gun is a huge crime in Europe which would get them A LOT of additional jail time, so its just plain stupid to carry guns.

So, there you have the vicious circle - you say criminals are violent, so you arm yourselves and prepare for the fight and criminals get more violent and prepare for the fight. Honestly, the fact you have people like Holliday, who just carries a gun by default, makes a society violent, because you have a lot of random citizens carrying deadly weapons and they are ready (and it seems even proud) to use them.

Last but not least, I honestly do not believe there are "bad" and "good" guys. The best people in the world do stupid things at times. The point is that the less violent is a society, the better for everybody - and the US is a very violent society. I acknowledge there are some areas where you NEED a gun, but that is sick and should be addressed ASAP.
1740  Economy / Speculation / Re: Track Record Forum Members on: August 23, 2013, 08:17:33 PM
Historically the buy&hold strategy has been the absolute winner in BTC, this is a hard cold fact
Or not, some might disagree:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60501.msg2815963#msg2815963


I'm referring to buy&hold vs cashing out profits, or buy&hold vs "risk balancing" strategies which purpose is again to secure fiat profits while reducing the exposure to BTC. Long term, BTC has only gone up exponentially,  thus the best you can do is to buy as much as you can

Plus, does Goomboo consider fees and slippage in his back tests? Because those are two profit killers in this market. In fact, he shows backtests of hourly 10/21 EMA crossings, but he admits that he trades once daily at most, picking up very carefully his trades, because otherwise slippage and fees would eat all his profits. Making a long story short, the theoretical graphs of Goombo are very nice and very instructive, but the reality is quite different.

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